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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCouple ideas for heat and lite in an emergency
Here in Western Pa power goes out in summer storms more often than winter.
Instead of recycling an old one, I keep an old car battery (actually 2 of them) charged as much as it can (doesn't have to be full or be able to start a car) with an electric charger BEFORE the emergency. Battery chargers can go for $25 to $100 depending on load capability. I've had a couple for years so they are always ready. I bought some bright LED Strips from Amazon. It's easy to connect them to the battery as they are 12 volt. Buy some clamps and/or use black electrical tape. They use virtually no power and a 4 foot or longer string can light a room almost daylight-like.
Even old car batteries can have 300 to 600 CCA Cold Cranking Amps (New 500 to 700 needed to start cars) that translates to 3000 to 7000 watts of continuous power depending on the condition of the battery.
I also have three power inverters (45 bucks each that can provide 110 vts @500 watts for using 60 to 100 watt electric light bulbs (NOT LED Bulbs). You can get inverters that will put out 100 to 1000 watts from car batteries. Put these in a (Mechanics) clamp light (has that aluminum reflector bowl around it) and you'd be surprised at the amount of heat a single bulb gives off. You can also use 12vt lights from an auto store that use less wattage and don't supply as much heat but will last longer.
Put the batteries on something safe (board, floor, counter top etc. NOT something metallic) when in use.
Almost ALL inverters will also charge phones and run radios or even smaller portable TVs. Get an app that lets you watch TV on your phone. There are also items that attach to the phone that allow you to watch "Over the Air" (OTA) Local TV Local Channels to keep informed in your area. They run around $35.
The car battery lasts well over 12 hours continuous with a lot of light bulbs on and with care (off and on times) can last a day. With decent inverters you can even use a microwave to heat water which can also give off heat somewhat longer. You can also get those small auto heaters to provide limited short-term warmth, BUT they use up a lot of watts!
Total investment over a summer was about $200. Have had to use this setup a number of times the last 10 years. Worth the trouble and investment.
After the emergency, make sure to recharge the car battery(s) as much as can be done. Then keep checking it every month or so to make sure it's charged in case you need it again.
There are lots of ways to help you keep warm and lit and even help provide warm food and water capabilities on the net. Check them out.
Good luck.
procon
(15,805 posts)Hooked one up to my car battery because I wasn't driving enough to keep it going. Works great even when skies are cloudy.
Basically anything with a USB port can be put on a solar charger. I have a couple sitting in a sunny window that serve all my devices and some small LED lights when the power goes off.
Very handy gizmos and much easier to move than picking up a car battery which is physically impossible for us oldsters and disabled folk.
Adding:
If you don't have a gas stove to cook on during a power outage you can buy a Portable Gas Burner for the countertop for under $30. Larger BTUs available. You can serve a hot meal or boil water. The fuel canisters are cheap and sold everyhere
PatSeg
(47,260 posts)that are "sitting in a sunny window"? Do they charge well indoors like that? I was looking at some portable ones at Amazon for when the power goes out. That has happened several time this past year in New Hampshire and I want to be prepared the next time.
procon
(15,805 posts)Bought one at Amazon for about $20 and the other at Wal-Mart for a bit more. Both are off brands I've never heard of, but they work great. They charge faster in direct sun, it just takes a bit longer in the window.
They both have two USB ports and keep all my electronic devices charged in case of power outages. I really like to have a few LED lights on at night.
I found one at Amazon that looks like a really fat smartphone. Says it can charge 4 devices at one time. I might give it a try. Thanks for your input.
BComplex
(8,017 posts)maxrandb
(15,295 posts)I thought this would be about great ideas of cuddling with our significant others. It's a great way to stay warm.
rickyhall
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(838 posts)Supposedly how the Pop group got it's name. When freezing cold, you need three dogs surrounding you to keep warm.
NameAlreadyTaken
(976 posts)Tracer
(2,769 posts)No, they are not cheap, but they will run lights, your refrigerator and maybe a space heater.
marlakay
(11,425 posts)Going out isn't a problem!
I told my daughter to get generator and camp stove for emergency and she said, this never happens but I seem to remember her power in Texas going out with bad wind storms too.
Its best to prepare for emergencies. I am grateful I have wood stove. We also have a camp stove we never use but glad I have it.
Yeehah
(4,568 posts)Can be used indoors and also provide light.
Kaleva
(36,248 posts)I'd prefer going with a 9k BTU Mr. Heater attached to a 20 lb. cylinder. On high, the tank could last 40 hours and on low, about 100 hours.
Yeehah
(4,568 posts)I've found the red dye off-road kerosene stinks a bit. Clear kerosene doesn't seem to stink so much.
5 gallons of kerosene will last about a week with a 24,000 BTU heater.
Kaleva
(36,248 posts)Other then emergencies, I wouldn't have a use for kerosene.
The shelve life of propane is more then a lifetime but kerosene can last to about 12 months. Maybe longer under ideal conditions.
One of my goals this year is to install a vent free 30k (or 24k) LP gas heater to my house LP gas line. I could last for weeks.
Yeehah
(4,568 posts)I heat with an indoor wood stove now. I only use a kerosene heater if it's really cold in the morning before I start a fire.
Kaleva
(36,248 posts)Propane will last as long as the container that holds it lasts.
But kerosene works for you. LP gas is a better choice for me.
Yeehah
(4,568 posts)I have a 500-gallon tank at my house in Montana. Propane is very inexpensive there - about 80-90 cents/gal. in the summer.
Kerosene does not break down. The only problem you can encounter with stored kerosene is condensation. If you have a full jug of kerosene, it can sit forever and the fuel will be good for a wick stove. A half-filled jug might get some condensation, but it will still burn in a wick stove. The water might cause some corrosion in the stove tank, but that's about it.
TheBlackAdder
(28,167 posts).
You need to find a kerosene supplier that supplies low-surfer low-aromatic K-1 kerosene.
Kleen-Heat stores well, burns clean and has virtually no odor or soot.
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Kaleva
(36,248 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,167 posts).
These guys really stink, but when it comes to being in a zero degree welding shop, I'll take it.
They can't be used in a residence, but only in a well-ventilated area.
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Kaleva
(36,248 posts)You'll have to light them with a torch lighter but they can kick out the heat. Don't use the oven and leave the door open as it won't burn correctly and may be hazardous.
Emergency candles can be made of vegetable shortening (Crisco), birthday candles and 1/2 pint mason jars or some other suitable, non-combustible container.
A frugal Crisco emergency candle.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)deep cycle 12v batteries, 2 inverters, a generator, several camping lanterns with LED bulbs (batteries last a long time because of the LED's), portable rechargeable phone charger, a 12v car phone charger, a water filter for backpacking, 7 gallon plastic water storage containers, a portable propane stove, a white gas Dragonfly expedition stove, a wood stove and lots of wood, a well stocked fist aid kit, several quality LED flashlights, a small rechargeable Shortwave/AM/FM radio, a stash of bic lighters, good sleeping bags, and lots of blankets.
These are some things folks might consider investing in, for use during emergencies.
Years of living in remote places, (sometimes off the grid), a deep distrust of the grid, and a passion for hiking and camping has caused us to collect some gadgets that allow us to be relatively well prepared for grid failure.