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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsH P Love craft was a horrible human being, but
He had a way with words.
As for the Republicanshow can one regard seriously a frightened, greedy, nostalgic huddle of tradesmen and lucky idlers who shut their eyes to history and science, steel their emotions against decent human sympathy, cling to sordid and provincial ideals exalting sheer acquisitiveness and condoning artificial hardship for the non-materially-shrewd, dwell smugly and sentimentally in a distorted dream-cosmos of outmoded phrases and principles and attitudes based on the bygone agricultural-handicraft world, and revel in (consciously or unconsciously) mendacious assumptions (such as the notion that real liberty is synonymous with the single detail of unrestricted economic license or that a rational planning of resource-distribution would contravene some vague and mystical American heritage ) utterly contrary to fact and without the slightest foundation in human experience? Intellectually, the Republican idea deserves the tolerance and respect one gives to the dead. H P Lovecraft
Pretty sure he was just as complimentary of democrats, but can't find that one.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Docreed2003
(16,858 posts)I assume that what the poster is referring to
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Turin_C3PO
(13,989 posts)Supposedly he became more tolerant as his life progressed, stopped supporting Hitler when he heard that Jews were getting beat up in the streets.
Aristus
(66,339 posts)Everyone who wasn't white, Lovecraft described in terms of ugliness, monstrosity, degeneracy, you name it.
He had a cat he named N****rman.
sweetloukillbot
(11,014 posts)The man was a horrible racist, even for his time. I still enjoy his work despite his racism, but the racism is painfully obvious once you know it's there. And I think any discussion or analysis of his work needs to include discussions about his bigotry.
cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)He had a bit of an existential crisis on learning that he had some Welsh ancestry.
still_one
(92,190 posts)ShazzieB
(16,392 posts)He was a major bigot and white supremacist, antisemitic, and xenophobic. Here's just one article about that side of him: https://lithub.com/we-cant-ignore-h-p-lovecrafts-white-supremacy/
In spite of all that, you have my permission to continue liking Cthulu. As awful as Lovecraft was, his artistry as a writer is still undeniable. And Cthulu is awesome.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Buzz cook
(2,471 posts)soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Chaosium did a good job addressing Lovecraft as a person with the latest edition.
Amishman
(5,557 posts)It is unfair to hold a man to modern standards when he's been dead for almost a century.
Read his works and enjoy their originality. When you stumble across a part that is particularly insensitive and offensive, just let it be a reminder of what we once were as a society and how far we've come overall.
sweetloukillbot
(11,014 posts)And his work wouldn't have existed with out his racism - his fear and hatred of everyone not white/English is the cornerstone of the Cthulhu mythos.
It's been taken wonderful places since then, but Lovecraft is quite a bit more than "Grandpa said the N-word again."
cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)which were mostly urban, educated New Englanders, and the other writers he corresponded with.
OTOH, his career overlapped with the resurgence of the KKK, and some of the worst atrocities of the Jim Crow era, so I always question the idea that he was unusually racist by overall American standards of the time.
niyad
(113,302 posts)nuxvomica
(12,423 posts)I want to use it in an LTTE.
Buzz cook
(2,471 posts)Found it on the net several years ago. Saved it and forgot about it. Just refound it this morning.
On edit, googled and its pretty common.
nuxvomica
(12,423 posts)It's from a letter to C.L. Moore (August 1936), quoted in "H.P. Lovecraft, a Life" by S.T. Joshi, p. 574
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/H._P._Lovecraft
John Ludi
(589 posts)a product of his times...and not always in a good way.
I love his work though...I started reading him as a pretty young kid. Unfortunately...and I say this as a rock musician whose been around a LOT...great art can often come from some pretty messed up people...in fact, that's almost the norm.
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)exboyfil
(17,863 posts)Lovecraft was an advocate of socialism.
Just not for blacks or other "foreigners".
I think Lovecraft was very influential to horror literature which is currently my favorite genre. I like his stories, but his racial attitudes were retrograde.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,336 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,760 posts)Trump is their ultimate goal, the apex of Republican fantasies..
MisterNiceKitty
(422 posts)But Lovecraft lived during the pre-Southern strategy era when Democrats were more likely the party of segregation not Republicans.
This isn't to say I know his party affiliation.
Turin_C3PO
(13,989 posts)the party of greedy businessmen.
MisterNiceKitty
(422 posts)It wasn't the like the modern party at all.
Turin_C3PO
(13,989 posts)was an uneasy alliance between left wing progressives, union-type workers, and segregationist Southerners.
MisterNiceKitty
(422 posts)That transition to the modern party system occurred from the New Deal era to the Great Society era (1930s-1970s) with the Civil Rights era in the mix.
Right or wrong the Republican Party was still seen as the Party of Lincoln, again during this era.
Turin_C3PO
(13,989 posts)I believe the majority of African-Americans voted Republican until the Sixties.
andym
(5,443 posts)It's thought he even might have voted for Hoover. In the end his views shifted toward favoring socialism, but hating communism, and liked FDR. So his comments about Republicans are particularly damning.
His nativist leanings live to this day in the Trump GOP. His antisemitism was tempered by the fact he married a Jewish woman, but his racist views apparently remained to his end.