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George Takei ftw (Original Post) soothsayer Feb 2021 OP
No, but... Cirque du So-What Feb 2021 #1
It took 20 long years, but finally . . . SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2021 #2
Sulu, You EARNED That Command! Blue Hal Feb 2021 #3
Or Bullshit. Tommymac Feb 2021 #4
Two tweets below that: Towlie Feb 2021 #5
Ha soothsayer Feb 2021 #6
I am more than sure DENVERPOPS Feb 2021 #10
BOOM!!! calimary Feb 2021 #18
George- Chipper Chat Feb 2021 #7
You got messed with Texas! Roc2020 Feb 2021 #8
Phaser-focused snark. Gotta love it. Oldem Feb 2021 #9
Good one! Brother Mythos Feb 2021 #11
Aren't the pipes just frozen? soothsayer Feb 2021 #12
I could understand frozen pipes affecting individual homes or buildings. But, ... Brother Mythos Feb 2021 #15
some info here Skittles Feb 2021 #21
Thanks for the information. Brother Mythos Feb 2021 #22
If the pumps at the plants stopped working oregonjen Feb 2021 #13
You could be right. But, it's a story detail I'd like to know. Brother Mythos Feb 2021 #16
Cities in the PDX metro just went through oregonjen Feb 2021 #17
What I hear about Austin is that between the electricity challenges and so many summer_in_TX Feb 2021 #19
It sounds to me like water main breaks are the root problem. Brother Mythos Feb 2021 #23
Oh Snaps... the Gaslighters of course.. Cha Feb 2021 #14
Quite the second career that Mr. Takei has built for himself. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #20

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,112 posts)
2. It took 20 long years, but finally . . .
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 05:18 PM
Feb 2021

"How did Enron unethically generate profits from electricity in California?

Enron created a false power shortage to increase the value of electricity. They would call different companies and ask them to cut off their power. This allowed them to take 30 billion dollar from the state of California."

 

Blue Hal

(56 posts)
3. Sulu, You EARNED That Command!
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 05:19 PM
Feb 2021

(For all the non-geeks out there, it is revealed in the movie Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country that Mr Sulu is a Captain with his own Starship.)

Towlie

(5,324 posts)
5. Two tweets below that:
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 05:30 PM
Feb 2021

George Takei
@GeorgeTakei
·
2h
A great symbol of rot, avarice and American carnage has finally left us, the moment met with sublime satisfaction by millions around the world.

Yes, I’m talking Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino being imploded. What did you think I was talking about?

Brother Mythos

(1,442 posts)
11. Good one!
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 07:15 PM
Feb 2021

I am curious, however, as to why they're also having a water shortage at this time of year. I have yet to read an explanation for that particular disaster.

Brother Mythos

(1,442 posts)
15. I could understand frozen pipes affecting individual homes or buildings. But, ...
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 08:25 PM
Feb 2021

from what I'm reading, it sounds like entire communities are effected. So, are all of their reservoirs low? Do Texans install their water supply mains above ground, or not deep enough in the ground? Or, didn't they design and build their water works to operate in extended periods of cold weather? Again, I have yet to read a satisfying explanation about what's causing this particular problem.

Brother Mythos

(1,442 posts)
22. Thanks for the information.
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 09:19 AM
Feb 2021

In extended, extremely cold weather, we sometimes do get isolated water main breaks in the Northeastern U.S. towns and cities. But, I don't remember an entire town or city ever being effected by any of those breaks. Typically, only a few city blocks are effected.

oregonjen

(3,336 posts)
13. If the pumps at the plants stopped working
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 07:26 PM
Feb 2021

because of power outages, it could be the reservoirs have been depleted. No power, no water getting filtered and pumped to keep the supply. That’s my guess.

Brother Mythos

(1,442 posts)
16. You could be right. But, it's a story detail I'd like to know.
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 08:43 PM
Feb 2021

It's been decades since we've had rolling blackouts in my town (Lehigh Valley area of Pennsylvania). But, when we did, our water supply was not effected. And, our town doesn't have a water tower that would supply us if the electric company couldn't furnish power for the pumps at the municipal water works.

oregonjen

(3,336 posts)
17. Cities in the PDX metro just went through
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 09:48 PM
Feb 2021

this during the ice/snow storm we’re currently cleaning up from. That’s why it was on my mind.

summer_in_TX

(2,738 posts)
19. What I hear about Austin is that between the electricity challenges and so many
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 11:15 PM
Feb 2021

dripping water from their pipes that the pressure got low. Water apparently is back on, at least in Rollingwood where my Dad is, but there's a boil water notice.

In my small town south of Austin there are two water suppliers. Both have had big challenges from the electricity issues even though they have backup generators. Today mine went out, and several on the same water line but not the neighbors next door who get theirs from a different water main. Ours came back on an hour ago, but I'm sure there's a boil water notice. The pressure is quite low right now. Maybe the cold caused valves to bust or something at one of the water tanks our water supplier manages.

Brother Mythos

(1,442 posts)
23. It sounds to me like water main breaks are the root problem.
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 09:54 AM
Feb 2021

Municipal water systems have to be designed to supply water during peak morning and evening hours, when to a lot of people are taking showers, using toilets, and cooking during those regular time periods. I find it hard to believe that the combined water flow from dripping faucets comes close to normal, peak water consumption.

Here's where I'm coming from on this:

Years ago I worked at a large plant that pumped its water from the nearby river, and operated its own potable water treatment and distribution system. During shift changes, potable water consumption went up to seven (7) million gallons an hour, due to people taking showers, and using toilets before leaving work. Of course not everyone at the plant had dirty jobs, so I estimate that maybe only five hundred (500) people were taking showers and changing clothes before leaving work at the end of their shift. But, these numbers may give people some idea about how much water even a small town will use during normal peak hours.

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