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Wonder if all those high-tech companies still want to move to TX? (Original Post) LearnedHand Feb 2021 OP
They're going to need good backup generators on site if they do. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2021 #1
They are going to need employees who will accept living through this DBoon Feb 2021 #22
If I were them I would just generate my own NameAlreadyTaken Feb 2021 #2
It's all the public services that may be lacking? Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #6
Excellent point LearnedHand Feb 2021 #12
A big company depends upon public services. And an educated diverse workforce. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #15
Power problems aren't limited to Texas. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #17
True. CA is used to nature and acts of God. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #20
They're not. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #13
A state that cannot set up warming stations for its citizens. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #18
Corporations will use this as an opportunity to demand bigger tax rebates and other concessions dalton99a Feb 2021 #3
All of the public services they rely on but don't want to pay for. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #4
Bean counters and bidness executroids make those decisions Cirque du So-What Feb 2021 #5
Bean counters work toward short term profit in corporations. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #7
I'm so stealing "executroids" LearnedHand Feb 2021 #8
I stole it from WKRP in Cincinnati Cirque du So-What Feb 2021 #11
Power issues aren't limited to Texas. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #9
that's the third time you've posted this. DBoon Feb 2021 #23
I mean 99 percent of the time it is stable qazplm135 Feb 2021 #10
I agree, it's not the norm LearnedHand Feb 2021 #14
I didn't either but if I'm a business qazplm135 Feb 2021 #16
Yup you're probably right LearnedHand Feb 2021 #19
Amazon needs bodies blogslut Feb 2021 #21

DBoon

(22,340 posts)
22. They are going to need employees who will accept living through this
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:43 PM
Feb 2021

High tech employees have options for employment. Relocating to a place where they might freeze to death in freezing weather might be more important to some than living in a place with low taxes and legal guns

Irish_Dem

(46,565 posts)
6. It's all the public services that may be lacking?
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:09 PM
Feb 2021

Not just the power grid. But what other infrastructure is lacking due to the conservative state legislature?

LearnedHand

(3,387 posts)
12. Excellent point
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:17 PM
Feb 2021

Texas has some beautiful and even hip places, but the state government is still morally bankrupt, and by policy they despise the poor, the infirm, women, the elderly, and racial/ethnic diversity.

Irish_Dem

(46,565 posts)
15. A big company depends upon public services. And an educated diverse workforce.
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:23 PM
Feb 2021

And pleasant surroundings to attract employees.

At a minimum, a stable power supply seems critical.

While a corrupt state legislature may seem like a good idea, in terms of bribes, etc.,
it doesn't guarantee a stable infrastructure.

TwilightZone

(25,428 posts)
17. Power problems aren't limited to Texas.
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:27 PM
Feb 2021

I find the assertions that companies coming from California, where rolling outages are a way of life in much of the state, are going to suddenly reconsider because of this event, rather laughable.

TwilightZone

(25,428 posts)
13. They're not.
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:20 PM
Feb 2021

For decades, Texas was awash in gas/oil money and the infrastructure largely reflects that. It also has one of the largest tax loads in the country, contrary to popular belief. Infrastructure isn't really an issue (with the exception of horrible traffic due to insane growth and the power grid, of course), in spite of the mismanagement and corrupt GOP leadership.

This event is an exception, not the norm. Record cold for an unprecedented duration, combined with historic snow events, preceded by two days of freezing rain. Five separate winter storms came through in one week. Here in Austin, we can go three years without seeing even one. Had more snow in one day than we had in roughly the previous 15 years combined.

This wouldn't even be a blip on the radar of companies coming here.

Irish_Dem

(46,565 posts)
18. A state that cannot set up warming stations for its citizens.
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:27 PM
Feb 2021

Cannot get food out to people.
People burning furniture to stay warm.
Mayors who write horrific nasty statements to citizens.
Corrupt and incompetent public services.

No thanks, I would never move to Texas for a job.
Never. In fact, after this, I would never even visit the state.

Irish_Dem

(46,565 posts)
4. All of the public services they rely on but don't want to pay for.
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:07 PM
Feb 2021

Texas does not have a stable infrastructure in which to conduct business.

Cirque du So-What

(25,908 posts)
5. Bean counters and bidness executroids make those decisions
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:08 PM
Feb 2021

Nobody bothers to consult the engineers or computer scientists on decisions that go past the next fiscal quarter. I kid, but not by much.

Cirque du So-What

(25,908 posts)
11. I stole it from WKRP in Cincinnati
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:15 PM
Feb 2021

Venus Flytrap took a job with a corporate radio chain (think Clear Channel) and Johnny Fever made a crack about the ‘rising young executroid.’

TwilightZone

(25,428 posts)
9. Power issues aren't limited to Texas.
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:13 PM
Feb 2021

Many companies are coming from California, where rolling blackouts are a known issue.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
10. I mean 99 percent of the time it is stable
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:14 PM
Feb 2021

I've been here four separate times in my life totaling 11 years...this is by far the coldest I have ever seen it.

Doesn't mean things didn't get f-ed up but it's not the norm.

LearnedHand

(3,387 posts)
14. I agree, it's not the norm
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:21 PM
Feb 2021

But I’m thinking it may not have been well known thing that TX power grid was not tied to the national power grid. I have multiple-generation Texan family members who didn’t know that, and they aren’t ignorant people.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
16. I didn't either but if I'm a business
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:25 PM
Feb 2021

and it otherwise makes sense to come here, a week every generation or so of power issues probably doesn't enter my math.

LearnedHand

(3,387 posts)
19. Yup you're probably right
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:31 PM
Feb 2021

And I’m not wishing business away from TX. I’m just wondering if any are rethinking their decisions. One entire side of my family is there and they all are suffering from this. I also don’t wish that on anyone there. I do wish the dumbass governor would fuck all the way off, however. And the Lt Governor as well, while we’re at it.

blogslut

(37,985 posts)
21. Amazon needs bodies
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:38 PM
Feb 2021

Labor is cheap in Texas. Amazon will absolutely get tax breaks in every town where they set up a warehouse. I mean, Amazon may not be tech-tech but they are tech.

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