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Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:00 PM

Wonder if all those high-tech companies still want to move to TX?

I mean, donít they sort of require a stable supply of electricity? Wonít their employees expect electrical service to be, you know, available?

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Reply Wonder if all those high-tech companies still want to move to TX? (Original post)
LearnedHand Feb 17 OP
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 17 #1
DBoon Feb 17 #22
NameAlreadyTaken Feb 17 #2
Irish_Dem Feb 17 #6
LearnedHand Feb 17 #12
Irish_Dem Feb 17 #15
TwilightZone Feb 17 #17
Irish_Dem Feb 17 #20
TwilightZone Feb 17 #13
Irish_Dem Feb 17 #18
dalton99a Feb 17 #3
Irish_Dem Feb 17 #4
Cirque du So-What Feb 17 #5
Irish_Dem Feb 17 #7
LearnedHand Feb 17 #8
Cirque du So-What Feb 17 #11
TwilightZone Feb 17 #9
DBoon Feb 17 #23
qazplm135 Feb 17 #10
LearnedHand Feb 17 #14
qazplm135 Feb 17 #16
LearnedHand Feb 17 #19
blogslut Feb 17 #21

Response to LearnedHand (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:01 PM

1. They're going to need good backup generators on site if they do.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:43 PM

22. They are going to need employees who will accept living through this

High tech employees have options for employment. Relocating to a place where they might freeze to death in freezing weather might be more important to some than living in a place with low taxes and legal guns

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Response to LearnedHand (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:02 PM

2. If I were them I would just generate my own

with solar and wind.

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Response to NameAlreadyTaken (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:09 PM

6. It's all the public services that may be lacking?

Not just the power grid. But what other infrastructure is lacking due to the conservative state legislature?

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:17 PM

12. Excellent point

Texas has some beautiful and even hip places, but the state government is still morally bankrupt, and by policy they despise the poor, the infirm, women, the elderly, and racial/ethnic diversity.

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Response to LearnedHand (Reply #12)

Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:23 PM

15. A big company depends upon public services. And an educated diverse workforce.

And pleasant surroundings to attract employees.

At a minimum, a stable power supply seems critical.

While a corrupt state legislature may seem like a good idea, in terms of bribes, etc.,
it doesn't guarantee a stable infrastructure.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #15)

Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:27 PM

17. Power problems aren't limited to Texas.

I find the assertions that companies coming from California, where rolling outages are a way of life in much of the state, are going to suddenly reconsider because of this event, rather laughable.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #17)

Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:32 PM

20. True. CA is used to nature and acts of God.

And TX is a lot cheaper.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:20 PM

13. They're not.

For decades, Texas was awash in gas/oil money and the infrastructure largely reflects that. It also has one of the largest tax loads in the country, contrary to popular belief. Infrastructure isn't really an issue (with the exception of horrible traffic due to insane growth and the power grid, of course), in spite of the mismanagement and corrupt GOP leadership.

This event is an exception, not the norm. Record cold for an unprecedented duration, combined with historic snow events, preceded by two days of freezing rain. Five separate winter storms came through in one week. Here in Austin, we can go three years without seeing even one. Had more snow in one day than we had in roughly the previous 15 years combined.

This wouldn't even be a blip on the radar of companies coming here.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #13)

Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:27 PM

18. A state that cannot set up warming stations for its citizens.

Cannot get food out to people.
People burning furniture to stay warm.
Mayors who write horrific nasty statements to citizens.
Corrupt and incompetent public services.

No thanks, I would never move to Texas for a job.
Never. In fact, after this, I would never even visit the state.

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Response to LearnedHand (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:06 PM

3. Corporations will use this as an opportunity to demand bigger tax rebates and other concessions

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Response to LearnedHand (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:07 PM

4. All of the public services they rely on but don't want to pay for.

Texas does not have a stable infrastructure in which to conduct business.

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Response to LearnedHand (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:08 PM

5. Bean counters and bidness executroids make those decisions

Nobody bothers to consult the engineers or computer scientists on decisions that go past the next fiscal quarter. I kid, but not by much.

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Response to Cirque du So-What (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:10 PM

7. Bean counters work toward short term profit in corporations.

No you are not kidding.

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Response to Cirque du So-What (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:12 PM

8. I'm so stealing "executroids"

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Response to LearnedHand (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:15 PM

11. I stole it from WKRP in Cincinnati

Venus Flytrap took a job with a corporate radio chain (think Clear Channel) and Johnny Fever made a crack about the Ďrising young executroid.í

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Response to LearnedHand (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:13 PM

9. Power issues aren't limited to Texas.

Many companies are coming from California, where rolling blackouts are a known issue.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #9)

Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:45 PM

23. that's the third time you've posted this.

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Response to LearnedHand (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:14 PM

10. I mean 99 percent of the time it is stable

I've been here four separate times in my life totaling 11 years...this is by far the coldest I have ever seen it.

Doesn't mean things didn't get f-ed up but it's not the norm.

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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:21 PM

14. I agree, it's not the norm

But Iím thinking it may not have been well known thing that TX power grid was not tied to the national power grid. I have multiple-generation Texan family members who didnít know that, and they arenít ignorant people.

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Response to LearnedHand (Reply #14)

Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:25 PM

16. I didn't either but if I'm a business

and it otherwise makes sense to come here, a week every generation or so of power issues probably doesn't enter my math.

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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #16)

Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:31 PM

19. Yup you're probably right

And Iím not wishing business away from TX. Iím just wondering if any are rethinking their decisions. One entire side of my family is there and they all are suffering from this. I also donít wish that on anyone there. I do wish the dumbass governor would fuck all the way off, however. And the Lt Governor as well, while weíre at it.

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Response to LearnedHand (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2021, 10:38 PM

21. Amazon needs bodies

Labor is cheap in Texas. Amazon will absolutely get tax breaks in every town where they set up a warehouse. I mean, Amazon may not be tech-tech but they are tech.

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