JUST IN: -CapitolPolice tell me 35 officers are under investigation for actions on Jan. 6.

[kpete]

-6 are suspended w/ pay

Acting Chief Pittman has directed any member whose behavior is not in keeping with the Department’s Rules of Conduct will face appropriate discipline. 1/2

"The investigation into the January 6 attack remains under investigation. Our Office of Professional Responsibility is investigating the actions of 35 police officers from that day. We currently have suspended six of those officers with pay. Acting Chief Yogananda Pittman has directed that any member of her department whose behavior is not in keeping with the Department’s Rules of Conduct will face appropriate discipline."

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/6-capitol-police-officers-suspended-35-under-investigation-after-capitol-riot-spokesperson-says

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[Karadeniz]

1. People were wondering what carpet these people seemed to have been swept under...

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

2. Good.

[lagomorph777]

3. I'm sure there's plenty of video to sort the chaff from the wheat.

[mezame]

16. Jan. 5 CCT?

I am still wondering when we'll hear of video showing which congresscritters were giving facility tours days beforehand. I hope that's a hammer about to drop during some 14th Amendment hearings.

[Amaryllis]

36. Wondering that myself. Have heard nothing on that for quite some time.

[Squinch]

4. Just a guess, but I am thinking this is one time where police won't protect their own.

The guys who the traitor cops threw under the bus are not going to forgive that any time soon.

[Kittycow]

5. +1

[Blue_true]

35. Yes. Especially since one Cop who was doing his job died,

and several others could have died, and were injured and hospitalized, some with lifelong injuries. For yet unknown reasons, two cops on duty that day committed suicide after the insurrection. How can a cop that let the traitors walk into the Capitol look the ones that fought to protect Pence and congresspeople in the eyes ever again?

[llmart]

6. Excellent!

No one is above the law, especially those that are paid to enforce it.

[sop]

7. "U.S. Capitol Police Union Issues No-Confidence Vote For Top Leaders"

"The U.S. Capitol police union issued an overwhelming no-confidence vote for the force's top leaders, including acting Chief Yogananda Pittman and a half-dozen other agency leaders...Pittman drew a 92% no-confidence vote, while Capitol Police Captain Ben Smith received the highest rebuke from 97% of voting members, the union said."

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/16/968307742/u-s-capitol-police-union-issues-no-confidence-vote-for-top-leaders

[Blue_true]

37. Basically meaningless.

Pittman is a Black woman. Imagine what would have happened to a Black high level commander (assistant) chief if she had gone to the front lines to rally the troops and the thugs broke through as they did? She likely would have had to empty her gun, but would still be killed by the racists (not all were, but the ones who weren’t likely would not have intervened to save her) in that mob. I don’t know Ben Smith’s race.

Your post is a distraction. Cops that failed to do their job of preventing the breach of the Capitol must be held accountable.

[sop]

44. The Capitol police force have a union, the union is defending their membership and attacking

their supervisors. The NPR piece discusses this situation in detail. It seems like an important part of this story, unless, of course, you've already picked a side. Read it and comment on the details of the story, but skip the personal attacks.

[Blue_true]

49. Personal attacks? You were the one that posted a grossly incomplete title.

There are many reasons why police unions vote no confidence in leaders, not all of those reasons have basis in fact or are just. A commander that is trying to reign-in police abuses won’t be popular.

[Progressive Jones]

50. Yep. It happens here in Chicago every time there's a new Police Superintendent, or a new Mayor. nt

[Blue_true]

51. I know. The tactic is a police union fall back card. nt

[sop]

52. I posted a "Grossly incomplete title"? Really?

"U.S. Capitol Police Union Issues No-Confidence Vote For Top Leaders" is the complete title of the NPR article. You would have known that had you simply bothered to read it.

Unlike you, I posted no personal opinions or conclusions about the matter being discussed, only a link to an NPR article discussing the Capitol police union's position. You have obviously made up your mind and will not tolerate anything posted here that you do not like.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

8. Funny how situations can bring out the best and the worst of people.

Some officers showed exceptional bravery and others were apparently compromised.

But then again, law enforcement is an institution, and institutions are never monolithical entities.

[OldBaldy1701E]

29. Very true

However, there would not be such backlash against them if they (like every LEO in this country) had not spent decades telling everyone they were a flawless, monolitical entity. You cannot claim deity when you run around like the devil.

[Blue_true]

39. The majority fought like hell. Look like only a

relative handful may have violated their oath.

[Celerity]

9. lock up the trump-humping white power traitors

[Blue_true]

41. I don't see how the Cops that didn't go hard on that mob can

look the ones that did in the eyes. Capitol police that were off shift raced toward the Capitol when they saw what was happening on tv, so how can police who were on shift and didn’t do their job professionally look those Cops in the eyes again?

[sarcasmo]

10. Inside job starting with Michael Flynn's brother Charles.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/21/army-inexplicably-creates-mountain-suspicion-handling-michael-flynns-brother/

[Stinky The Clown]

12. I am convinced this is correct.

[MagickMuffin]

11. Not sure I agree with continuance of pay

They should be fired and prosecuted to the full extent of the LAW!

[obamanut2012]

14. Fired for what?

Exactly.

[aggiesal]

17. Conduct unbecoming an Officer? ...

I'm just guessing.

[wnylib]

21. I think they will be, once the investigation

is over, if the results show collusion with the insurrectionists or other improper behavior. I suspect that allowing the pay is because the investigation is still ongoing.

[groundloop]

38. They can't be fired without some sort of proof of guilt.

I'm sure that's being worked on.

[AwakeAtLast]

53. They continue to be paid while the investigation in ongoing

If they don't do that those officers can sue for unlawful firing if they are found innocent.

[blueinredohio]

13. That will teach them suspend them with pay.

That way they don't have to work but still get paid. Yep, I'm sure they learned their lesson.

[orangecrush]

15. Charges may be coming

And the Union probably has rules.

[JT45242]

18. Have to follow the rules...

The contract has them suspended with pay during investigation. That is to protect them if the investigation finds nothing.

BUT...if it finds dereliction if duty or other crimes, they will be fired, prosecuted, and named in wrongful death lawsuits.

Due process is important, let it play out.

It may be that only half of them are guilty, could be more. But let the due process play out.

[blueinredohio]

33. If those are the rules. I suppose all unions rules are different.

[calimary]

19. Suspended WITHOUT pay works better for me.

And “suspended” isn’t nearly as good or as fitting as “FIRED” is.

[MyMission]

20. We were outnumbered, so I

1) Pulled my maga hat out of my back pocket and put it on
2) directed the Invaders to proceed peacefully (instead of asking them to leave)
3) traded something of mine for a maga hat so they'd think I was one of them
4) neglected my oath and duty to protect the capital
5) joked with the Insurrectionists so they wouldn't hurt me

And many other excuses they will need to investigate, while also investigating their social media accounts. Not sure of the exact number, but 140+ Leo's were injured. The 35 being investigated probably didn't have a scratch, and didn't respond as they should have.

[Butterflylady]

22. Does this perhaps have something to do with

the two officers that committed suicide right after jan. 6.

[bottomofthehill]

26. Let's please not attack the officers who committed suicide.

It is bullshit and below the intelligence of DU

They had mental health issues. Jesus, one was a metropolitan police officer not even on the department and under this investigation. Let’s stick to what may be supported by fact.

[bottomofthehill]

27. On his way to the District, Smith shot himself in the head.

Around 5:35 p.m., Smith was still fighting to defend the building when a metal pole thrown by rioters struck his helmet and face shield. After working into the night, he visited the police medical clinic, was put on sick leave and, according to his wife, was sent home with pain medication.

In the days that followed, Erin said, her husband seemed in constant pain, unable to turn his head. He did not leave the house, even to walk their dog. He refused to talk to other people or watch television. She sometimes woke during the night to find him sitting up in bed or pacing.

He wasn’t the same Jeff that left on the 6th. . . . I just tried to comfort him and let him know that I loved him,” she said. “I told him I’d be there if he needed anything, that no matter what, we’ll get through it. I tried to do the best I could.”

Smith returned to the police clinic for a follow-up appointment Jan. 14 and was ordered back to work, a decision his wife now questions. After a sleepless night, he set off the next afternoon for an overnight shift, taking the ham-and-turkey sandwiches, trail mix and cookies Erin had packed.

On his way to the District, Smith shot himself in the head.

[bottomofthehill]

23. Before we rush off to "Fire" them

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One of the officers under investigation is the officer who shot the woman who breached the Speakers Lobby, we don’t know what the others are being investigated for. Some for not doing their job, some for using force improperly, some for dereliction until we know what the investigation is for, we should not be in a rush to fire.

Let’s let the process work.

[groundloop]

40. And from what little we know it appears that he likely saved the lives of members of Congress

But of course all instances of police shootings have to be investigated to determine if they were warranted.

[bottomofthehill]

42. Correct. He did fire his weapon

In order to protect those who were in the Lobby. And, any time your weapon is discharged, there must be an investigation.

I am not saying some made some poor choices, but let’s look into them before we get out front and call for their jobs.

[spike jones]

24. Anyone in here surprised that the police are involved in Jan 6? n/t

[ailsagirl]

32. Well... yes! So those cops support dump??

[bottomofthehill]

43. Officer Sicknick was a Trump supporter

But he gave his life doing his job. Although a Trump supporter he valued his oath and did his job.

[ailsagirl]

45. Yes, it's true

He put his country first. 🇺🇸

[Ferrets are Cool]

25. Good

[world wide wally]

28. Because of your reprehensible behavior and dereliction of duty during the insurrection,

we feel we have no choice but to give you another week of paid vacation.
Now THAT is laying the law down.

[Joinfortmill]

30. These bums are everywhere.

[ailsagirl]

31. I am flabbergasted...

that 1) so many participated in the insurrection, and 2) so many were behind the scenes (who pretended to be on our side).

[bottomofthehill]

46. Nothing in the wording states that they were participating

Or behind the scenes. Lacking direction from the top, some reacted poorly and their actions are being investigated.

[ailsagirl]

48. I was referring to the others, such as...

(for example) the three members of Congress, and so on.

[Evolve Dammit]

34. Good. Those that aided and abetted need to be fired. Immediately. n/t

[FakeNoose]

47. Defund the police union - it's only making things worse

As long as the police union is "defending" these guys we'll never get the real truth.