Harry and Meghan Tell Queen: We're Never Coming Back

[Celerity]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/harry-and-meghan-tell-queen-theyre-never-coming-back



Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have formally split from Britain’s royal family after informing Queen Elizabeth II that they have absolutely no intention of returning from their new lives in the United States. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex sensationally announced last year that they would be bringing an end to their lives as working royals. Following a year-long review of the new arrangement, and after recent discussions between the family members, Harry and Meghan have told the queen that they believe their decision to quit was the right call.

Buckingham Palace published a statement on Friday morning, saying that the couple has “confirmed to Her Majesty the Queen that they will not be returning as working members of the Royal Family,” and that, while the remaining royals are “saddened by their decision,” Harry and Meghan will always “remain much loved members of the family.”

Those warm words were followed up by confirmation that the couple will be stripped of their “honorary military appointments and royal patronages,” which will be given to loyal family members. Harry and Meghan, who now live in California, reportedly decided to give an interview to their friend Oprah Winfrey after becoming aware that they were going to be stripped of all their remaining royal links. The interview, organized by Meghan, is set to air on CBS on March 7.

The couple announced last week that they’re expecting another child. Shortly after the Buckingham Palace statement was published, a spokesperson for the couple said: “As evidenced by their work over the past year, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex remain committed to their duty and service to the U.K. and around the world, and have offered their continued support to the organizations they have represented regardless of official role. We can all live a life of service. Service is universal.”

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[mshasta]

1. Good for them

The young couple have to endure so much shit from the British tabloids , specially against Megan, they are racist dogs .

[LuvNewcastle]

2. So they've been stripped of all their royal patronages

and military appointments, but they're still the Duke and Duchess of Sussex? Seems like they should lose the title, too.

[brush]

6. That's also my question.

[musette_sf]

7. Meh.

They gave Duchess to Wallis... AND Camilla. Fine with me if Harry and Meghan get to keep their duchy.

[Yavin4]

30. Don't they pass the duchy on the left hand side? n/t

[musette_sf]

50. !!🤣

[Dorian Gray]

62. for the win

[Wellstone ruled]

3. Way to go Kids.

Sure that their decision took a ton of crap off their shoulders.

[cwydro]

17. They're middle-aged adults.

Hardly “kids.”

[Wellstone ruled]

38. Sorry,anyone under fifty is a kid

when your eighty. Okay.

[cwydro]

40. I'm not 80, but getting SS.

Never heard myself called a kid at their age. I would have not been well pleased if someone had called me that.

Ymmv.

[Midwestern Democrat]

92. I liked being (and being thought of as) a young man, but once I hit 40, it was impossible for me to

even delude myself into thinking of myself that way anymore. My 30s were my favorite decade - still considered young but much wiser than I was in my 20s.

[PatSeg]

98. Ah yes, the 30s

Definitely wiser than the 20s, but in retrospect, I was not nearly as wise as I thought I was!

[Celerity]

48. Not being argumentative, but would you have called Obama a kid the first 2/3rds of his first term?

Or Bill Clinton most of his first term?

Assuming you were 80yo then, like you are now.

[Doremus]

86. Agree. Some folks here need to let out their girdles. nt

[flotsam]

89. It was a sore point with me...

George W. admitted coke use as "youthful hijinks" but never after 40. My brother turned 21 in combat in Vietnam and by 25 I had done my service, married, bought a house and had two of my three children. Seems Republicans and Royals age later than liberals...

[NCjack]

4. Congrats.

[no_hypocrisy]

5. Being royal did no favors for Harry's mother.

Good on him and Meghan for deciding to make their way independently.

Postscript: Does this take Harry and Archie out of royal succession and this family is wholly free of being royal?

[BuddhaGirl]

47. Archie and Harry are still in the succession

This decision just means that Harry and Meghan are no longer "working Royals."

[Laelth]

8. The loss of "patronage" is striking to me.

Does that mean that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex will no longer appear on the Civil List? In other words, will they no longer be entitled to an allowance from the UK Parliament? Does Meagan make enough money, on her own, to support the family? I assume that Harry has neither a job nor a steady source of income. This is strange, to say the least.

-Laelth

[Celerity]

10. Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's Net Worth Could Hit $10 Billion Soon

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/meghan-markle-and-prince-harrys-net-worth-could-hit-10-billion-soon.html/

[Laelth]

14. OK. They're doing fine. n/t

-Laelth

[Celerity]

15. Yes indeed, very fine, and apparently will be doing even better as the years roll by. nt

[sfstaxprep]

9. So Why Exactly Should We Bother Paying Any Attention To Them?

Seems to me the only significance Harry had, is the fact he WAS royalty. Now he's simply a common individual.

And Meghan's only significance, other than being in a semi-popular tv show, is through the fact she was a common individual, who married into royalty.

I think it's funny that the media will continue to focus on them, and they will more or less profit off the fact that they WERE royalty, even though they no longer are.

[Luz]

20. Oh, they're still royals, just not "working" royals, I think.

I think they lost/gave back the whole HRH thing. They're pretty much in the same position all of the queens other grandchildren are in.

It's just news 'cuz it's Harry.

[BannonsLiver]

27. There's news on that, actually

BREAKING: You don’t have to pay attention to them.

[sfstaxprep]

28. Kind Of Hard When The Media Covers Their Every Move

I can't exactly avoid the internet or the news completely.

Like ignoring Drumpf. It's one thing if I say I want to ignore him, and quite another when the media has Breaking News whenever he opens his mouth, or in previous cases, tweets.

[SidDithers]

67. ...

Sid

[NurseJackie]

77. I like them and support their decision.

I like all the royals. Except maybe not Camilla.

[Dorian Gray]

80. The royals are whacky

I would NOT want to live in whatever rule based world they live in. The Irish heritage I have thinks it's all a bunch of crap, anyhow.....

Having said that, they're fascinating to watch... in the news or in the crown.

I don't think any of them are terrible people, well other than Prince Andrew hanging with Epstein. He can go fuck himself.

[NurseJackie]

83. I enjoyed the comedy series "The Windsors" ...

... very amusing farce.

[Dorian Gray]

84. Ooh...sounds intriguing.

I'll check it out! Thanks!

[NurseJackie]

85. Netflix... Three seasons.

[Lucinda]

101. Because they are doing good in the world. n/t

[jalan48]

11. The Royal's version of "Take This Job and Shove It".

[rocktivity]

19. They turned down their royal duty assignment in Africa

Hopefully, Harry's got enough for them to live on.


rocktivity

[jalan48]

25. He'll do fine. He can become an "influencer" on social media and make a fortune. Privilige has its

upside.

[NYC Liberal]

29. They signed a $75 million deal with Spotify recently

and a $150 million one with Netflix.

They’re completely fine.

[msongs]

12. oprah, harry and meghan zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz nt

[LanternWaste]

26. Interest enough to click, read and comment though, eh?

(goal post removal equipment located in downstairs basement...)

[msongs]

35. click yes, comment yes. read? umm no nt

[USALiberal]

95. Then why post???????????

[underpants]

13. I read that they'd been spending some time in Blacksburg VA

home to Va. Tech.
They wanted to see what life was like without a national title.

😆

Okay that’s a joke told to me by a UVA alum. UVa and Tech are rivals.

[fishwax]

60. .

[cwydro]

16. Well, they moved here to "live a private life."

But all they do is try to get their names in the press. And now an Oprah interview lol.

Smh.

[dixiechiken1]

24. This ☝️☝️☝️

Gimme a break.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

34. Did you miss all the shit they were getting from the British press

and the racism that was coming out as a result of it?

Good for them.

[cwydro]

36. Please. Go read the "shit" written about Kate, and even worse, Camilla.

They bent over backwards for this woman.

She had no intention of staying in the family.

Fame is her goal.o

[stopdiggin]

42. sounds a little bitter

"bent over backwards for this woman"

The press? On their best behavior because -- Kate -- Camilla? Rationalize much?
Okie dokie then. --- ---

[cwydro]

45. Stay tuned.

Poor old Harry will be back before you know it.

[BuddhaGirl]

54. LOL

"They bent over backwards for this woman.

She had no intention of staying in the family.

Fame is her goal.o"

And you know this how? Sorry, but you have absolutely no idea what they have experienced, or what Meghan's plans were after she married Harry.

Only they know the truth of their situation.

[ShazzieB]

70. Amen to all of this!

[Cuthbert Allgood]

79. You know she was famous before she married him, right?

Had a solid career being built?

So, please, do tell what racist backlash Kate and Camilla faced.

[JI7]

88. Exactly, there is a different between that famous and what she has to deal with

as part of that family.

[JI7]

87. It's not just the media, it's actual family members and others connected to Royals

[Raine]

61. Exactly and if you want privacy you don't move to a area

here in California where all the celebrities like Oprah have homes.

[AwakeAtLast]

18. I think much of their decision was brought about by racism

Not from the royal family, but from British subjects and the press. Lots of Brexiters who also happen to be white supremacists. Coincidence?

[Celerity]

21. BBC fires presenter for tweeting racist pic comparing Meghan Markle and Harry's baby boy to monkey

After the Royal baby’s birth, a BBC Radio 5 Live presenter, Danny Baker, took to Twitter to post a racist black and white picture of a man and woman walking out of a hospital with the caption, “Royal baby leaves hospital.”

https://www.indiatoday.in/lifestyle/celebrity/story/bbc-fires-presenter-for-tweeting-racist-pic-comparing-meghan-markle-and-harry-s-baby-boy-to-monkey-1521568-2019-05-10


Danny Baker fired by BBC over royal baby chimp tweet

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-48212693

The BBC has sacked Danny Baker, saying he showed a "serious error of judgement" over his tweet about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex's baby.

The tweet, which he later deleted but which has been circulated on social media, showed an image of a couple holding hands with a chimpanzee dressed in clothes with the caption: "Royal Baby leaves hospital". The BBC 5 Live presenter was accused of mocking the duchess's racial heritage.

Baker claimed it was a "stupid gag". The 61-year-old presented a Saturday morning show on the network. The corporation said Baker's tweet "goes against the values we as a station aim to embody". It added: "Danny's a brilliant broadcaster but will no longer be presenting a weekly show with us."

Link to tweet

[AwakeAtLast]

23. Yep, tip of the iceberg

I'm sad for them, but hopeful that they are happy on this side of the world!

[stopdiggin]

33. yeah. there was a lot of this kind of stuff.

and the 'royal' attitude is you just have to shrug this kind of thing off. I suspect that Markle had a little different attitude toward the toxic sleaze that the British press considers a blood sport -- together with the idea that she was just suppose to "suck it up." Essentially said "F THAT!" And made it clear that she didn't intend to 'stand down' just because she married into a family that didn't care for the 'fuss.'

She was right. You don't combat this cancerous crap by "just letting it go." And the sad fact is that the 'family' didn't have the backbone to go there with her .... Given that -- at some point you just have to say "you do you ..."

[cwydro]

37. You ought to read up on Ms Markle.

[stopdiggin]

39. no I don't think I will

Anyone that is willing to stand up for themselves, and forge their own path ... I think I'm more or less in that corner. Detail doesn't matter so much to me. If Markle has 'offended' a few somewhere along the way ... So be it.

Edit: having read some of your other posts on this string -- it's apparent that there's some undercurrent going on here. In the face of that, I'll stand by my defense of her decision to leave. And by her right to make it.

[cwydro]

41. Omg, you really haven't read anything about her, have you?

“Stand up for themselves and forge their own path..” Oh dear.

[BuddhaGirl]

55. Got any links?

Please, nothing from the Daily Mail or any other trashy rag.

[cwydro]

56. Lol, you can use the google machine as well as I.

Believe what you want.

It’s all out there. And they’re both hypocrites for living in an 18 room mansion in CA while pretending to care about climate change.

[BuddhaGirl]

58. LOL

I tried the google machine, and all I found were a few trashy articles from disreputable, spammy sites.

I'll take that as a "no" on you having anything credible. You are the one that made the claims.

But thanks anyway!

[flotsam]

90. How many rooms in Windsor Castle?

Because that's what they're turning down...

[BuddhaGirl]

75. +1

All of this

[Dorian Gray]

64. There are message boards

dedicated to reading into (both positively and negatively) into her actions.

Like you... and me... and everybody else reading this, she is a complex human being who doesn't have power over anybody else. She does some wrong things. Some right things. Some innocuous things.

Many people made a villain out of her... or a heroine. She's neither. She's human.

Harry too.

There are plenty of humans who i can't stand. (Trump being number one.) But she isn't in that category for me. She just is.

[Dorian Gray]

63. Quite a few members of royalty

who are vile racists.

I'm sure it was a combination of things. Ambition, racism, Royal rules, childhood trauma, and a desire tell them to shove it.

[stopdiggin]

22. I don't think this was ever in doubt

(IMO) this 'cooling off' or probation period was pretty much all on the part of the palace. Meghan and Harry were pretty clear on what they wanted, and what they intended to do, a good while back. Made their plans, explained at length (both publicly and privately), and then made the corresponding moves. They haven't changed their minds -- no one really expected them to -- and thus this 'announcement' really represents nothing more than what has already been decided. Pre-determined in fact.

Good on them. And best wishes to everyone involved.

[leftyladyfrommo]

31. I don't care. nt

[edhopper]

32. But is he

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Charles' son?

[MrsMatt]

52. Oh for heavens sakes

he's Charles's son.

Stop with the ugly rumors.

[AirmensMom]

94. Not only is that ugly,

but tell me you haven't noticed the resemblance between Harry and Prince Phillip. Seriously.

[edhopper]

96. I was riffing off of

the rumors that have been flying around the British Press for decades.

Meant tongue in cheek, but I didn't pull that off.

[AirmensMom]

97. Fair enough.

Clearly the British Press can't see worth shit.

[demigoddess]

43. think this is a result of the press coverage and hatred of Meghan because of her race.

I think Harry just said, I ain't taking it. He lost his mother because of the press, he doesn't want to lose his wife too. enough said.

[HipChick]

51. The upper class of British society

can be the most racist...

[HipChick]

44. The British royal family was very racist towards them..

I glad they basically told Queen Lizzie to fuck off..

[cwydro]

46. No, they weren't.

She was extended invitations and courtesies that Kate has still never received.

Any two people who live in a mansion with, what, 10 bathrooms? And yet preach about climate change are hypocrites.

[HipChick]

49. Bullshit!...But you prob share the sentiments..

Racism towards Harry and his wife has been well documented....


I am glad Harry did the right thing...and made sure that what happened to his mother, will never happen to his wife..

Congrats on their 2nd child...

[cwydro]

53. Are you calling me a racist?

Perhaps you should do some research on Meghan’s past.

And while you’re at it, please explain to me how two people who care about climate change live in a huge mansion in CA?

Do you have any idea of the water and other resources needed to support a place like that? For two people?

I care not about anyone’s race, but I hate those who abuse the environment.

[HipChick]

57. Are they supposed to live in a 600sft bedsit or something?

You seem to care more about the environment, than someone being treated different because of the color of their skin...

[Dorian Gray]

66. (Whispering....)

lots of people are hypocrites. Lots of people talk about climate change and ride yachts (I'm looking at YOU, Leo DiCaprio), ride private airplanes, live in mansions, and do horrible things.

Her past is complicated. Like yours. Like mine. But if you're telling people to do "research" you could share some of the shocking information that you think proves that she is a horrible human being. Otherwise it's just innuendo without any substance.

[ShazzieB]

71. Yes!

All the nasty innuendos are starting to grind my gears. Big time. Starting to wonder what's eating certain people around here.

[demtenjeep]

78. yes

thank you

[cwydro]

93. Lol.

Suit yourself.

Stay tuned.

[Arazi]

99. Stay tuned for what? Proof of your allegations?

[ChubbyStar]

102. I laughed so loud I startled my dog

Thank you!

[BuddhaGirl]

104. Right?

We won't see any "proof."

Just b.s. opinion

[flotsam]

91. I understand the heat and electricity is probably more than I use

But do you expect they run thru the mansion daily flushing toilets and giggling?

[BuddhaGirl]

59. "She was extended invitations and courtesies that Kate has still never received"

Such as?

You are making claims but provide nothing to back them up.

[Dorian Gray]

68. Lots of claims

and little back up. .

[BuddhaGirl]

73. Exactly

That poster reminds me of someone I had a very similar back-and-forth with on Facebook who kept making similar claims about Meghan Markle, and became rather hostile when I repeatedly asked them for proof/links/whatever. Same response, that I should just "google."

Then poof! They blocked me

[Dorian Gray]

82. Meghan really riles something up in people

I don't get it at all. Honestly, I don't think she is interesting enough to inspire such hatred (or devotion). It's all so strange.

Hopefully she and Harry will get their acts together and make something positive out of their foundation. (Right now, it seems kind of messy and ill thought out. But again, that doesn't make them evil.)

I guess after all the malevolent leadership in the USA and the world in the last few years, they really don't ping my "bad person" radar.

[helpisontheway]

65. I think it was the media over there that was very racist towards Meghan. Nt

[LAS14]

69. Where do they get their income from? And...

... seeing this post here on DU reminds me of what a memory trip The Crown has been for me. My first memory of TV, after that of my mother trying to get a signal to our new one and seeing the evening news, was the coronation of Queen Elizabeth, 24 hours delayed, but a big, technological deal. I had a vivid memory of a tent having been erected around her for the annointing of oil. I always wondered about that. What... did they bare her breast? The Crown showed me that it was just over their heads so the TV cameras couldn't film the sacred moment. I was 7 at the time. I had some vague memory of absolutely everything that happened of a public nature in that series. England was a f...ing big deal when I was a kid.

[Celerity]

74. Where do they get their income from?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215133081#post10

[LAS14]

81. oh. That should do it. nt

[Ilsa]

72. They both seem mature and very happy together.

I'm glad for them being able to choose the life they want, not one dictated by traditions that may not be relevant any more. I'm glad if Harry is ready to embrace equality and move away from peerage.

[Xolodno]

76. One thing I've noticed about the British press over time...

...every once awhile they love a scandal on the Royals. And if there isn't one, they manufacture one. All in all, I don't trust any of the reporting on them.

Harry and Meghan already have set themselves up financially so they don't need any royal money and I'd argue it was their plan the whole time to step away, the timing was the result of British tabloids.

However, Meghan being American, meant she was going to eventually break some kind of etiquette or pomp and circumstance sooner of later. And the tabloids were salivating on the prospect of making a mountain out of a mole hill, so they were target number one. Until, they took most of that away from them.

Now all they can do is sour grapes and speculate friction in the family and scream for the umpteenth time that they walked away from royalty and Meghan is some kind magical wizarding with temptress and manipulating Harry....whatever. The real issue is they were counting on more issues sold and website clicks...and just like that, they are gone.

Also, given that Prince Charles has already telegraphed on planning to reduce the need for royal family members for events, going to guess some in the family are actually happy as this may save a few jobs.

[dilby]

100. So happy for them.

And they absolutely look like they are happier now than they were, it’s great that they are going to do it their way.

[Lucinda]

103. Lot of errors in that article - but I have no doubt their fortunes will rise rapidly now...n/t