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?Do you know why we can fly a helicopter on Mars but can't turn on a light in Texas? (Original Post) kpete Feb 2021 OP
I love it! Chainfire Feb 2021 #1
Saw something similar but you made a mistake PJMcK Feb 2021 #2
Acute observation. HUAJIAO Feb 2021 #11
Mars does have an atmosphere flyingfysh Feb 2021 #12
Didn't know about the atmosphere. must be really thin. HUAJIAO Feb 2021 #13
Martian atmo is less than 1% of Earth's value sarge43 Feb 2021 #20
Thanks, Sarge..... HUAJIAO Feb 2021 #22
You're welcome, HUAJIAO sarge43 Feb 2021 #25
Will do. HUAJIAO Feb 2021 #26
We learned all we need to know about Mars from Matt Damon. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #28
Well, he did get Martian wind strength wrong. sarge43 Feb 2021 #29
Every planet in the solar system has an atmosphere. SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #17
So I am learning. HUAJIAO Feb 2021 #18
I had to look it up. I vaguely recalled it from school days. SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #19
HA HA HA!!!! HUAJIAO Feb 2021 #24
even Mercury? flyingfysh Feb 2021 #30
Yes it does. SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #32
I like it. Snackshack Feb 2021 #3
Because AOC and the green new deal ruined Texas IronLionZion Feb 2021 #4
The republicans have the same problem Turbineguy Feb 2021 #5
I had not thought of it this way, but so true bottomofthehill Feb 2021 #21
How many more lives will be lost due to republican mismanagement. In_The_Wind Feb 2021 #6
You can't argue with that. SergeStorms Feb 2021 #7
K&R Blue Owl Feb 2021 #8
Simple. $$$ paleotn Feb 2021 #9
The only way to be spared the miseries of Republican rule is to boot Republicans from office. bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #10
Haha! Very good! Silver1 Feb 2021 #14
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Feb 2021 #15
We don't know yet that we can fly a helicopter on Mars, it was sent there for a test. Towlie Feb 2021 #16
Off topic, murielm99 Feb 2021 #23
Thank you, and it's hardly off topic to point out what I said. Towlie Feb 2021 #27
Good one! Thank you! Brother Mythos Feb 2021 #31

PJMcK

(21,998 posts)
2. Saw something similar but you made a mistake
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 09:41 AM
Feb 2021

Engineers are in charge of Mars. The science will be done when the observations are made and the materials collected for analysis.

Once, I met a worker from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory and when I told her I had never met a real rocket scientist, she admonished me by saying, "I'm an Engineer not a Scientist!" Her team was responsible for the activities of one of the earlier Martian rovers.

HUAJIAO

(2,379 posts)
11. Acute observation.
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 10:29 AM
Feb 2021

Thinking about it now. I wonder. how CAN you fly a helicopter on mars if there is no atmosphere. You can't even fly one to the top of Mt. Everest, as far as I know. Or it is really difficult.


flyingfysh

(1,990 posts)
12. Mars does have an atmosphere
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 10:34 AM
Feb 2021

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It is just very thin. I'm sure NASA had figured this out already.

Sometimes Mars has dust storms. You can't have a dust storm without an atmosphere.

HUAJIAO

(2,379 posts)
13. Didn't know about the atmosphere. must be really thin.
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 10:41 AM
Feb 2021

Yes, I'm sure NASA had it figured out..

But how.. NOW I am going to do a little research on it.

Actually a good friend of mine is an aerospace engineer who works for Boeing in Huntsville-- pretty high up the engineer ranks there. (put in a couple years at the JPL as well.) He'll know.


sarge43

(28,940 posts)
20. Martian atmo is less than 1% of Earth's value
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 11:35 AM
Feb 2021

The drone Ingenuity is a helicopter which depends on lift and thrust to stay airborne.

HUAJIAO

(2,379 posts)
26. Will do.
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 11:51 AM
Feb 2021

I am a classical musician but have always had a lazy but true fascination with the cosmos, astrophysics, etc...

Many years ago I had the good fortune to spend a couple or three nights hanging with Carl Sagan over leisurely Japanese dinners and sake.. I mostly just listened.

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
19. I had to look it up. I vaguely recalled it from school days.
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 11:34 AM
Feb 2021

I used to know all sorts of things I don't anymore.

I am beginning to know less and less about more and more. Pretty soon I will know absolutely nothing about everything.

HUAJIAO

(2,379 posts)
24. HA HA HA!!!!
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 11:47 AM
Feb 2021

So I'm not the only one, eh?

Years ago I was reading Nigel Calder's EINSTEIN'S UNIVERSE for the first time.

I was actually sitting on the can when I suddenly understood in a blaze of light something very specific about time in it's relationship to 'space.'
But as soon as I got off the toilet, I suddenly lost it. true story.....

I forget what it was though....

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
32. Yes it does.
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 01:56 PM
Feb 2021

It is very thin and has a special name I don’t remember it but yeah it has a very thin atmosphere.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
4. Because AOC and the green new deal ruined Texas
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 09:54 AM
Feb 2021

liberal hippies snuck in right under the GOP's nose and ruined that great state. The wall doesn't work. Time to build a dome.

Turbineguy

(37,291 posts)
5. The republicans have the same problem
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 09:56 AM
Feb 2021

the Soviets had. Not everything is political and you can't solve real problems with lies.

bottomofthehill

(8,318 posts)
21. I had not thought of it this way, but so true
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 11:41 AM
Feb 2021

Looking at the Covid response, the Election Response, Climate Change.... talking the problem is not fixing problem.

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
7. You can't argue with that.
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 09:57 AM
Feb 2021

Well, you could argue, but you'd lose that argument. Many Texans still have this attitude that they can do anything better than anyone else, and they don't need help from anyone, especially those educated eggheads from Washington. It's the United States of America, not some competition to see who's the best, or who's the most fiercely independent. We're all in this together.

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
9. Simple. $$$
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 10:07 AM
Feb 2021

And priorities when it comes to $$. That's not a hit against NASA at all. I think their budget should be doubled or tripled. That's a hit against the greedy wankers who don't want to pay higher electricity rates when the weather is benign. But wait until they get their bills this month, since ERCOT turned the wolves of supply and demand on them. It a case of pay me now, or pay me later, but you will pay one way or another.

bucolic_frolic

(43,056 posts)
10. The only way to be spared the miseries of Republican rule is to boot Republicans from office.
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 10:23 AM
Feb 2021

At every opportunity. Someone should tell the people.

Towlie

(5,318 posts)
16. We don't know yet that we can fly a helicopter on Mars, it was sent there for a test.
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 11:23 AM
Feb 2021

 
?

I can't find any report yet that it has flown. Does anyone know when it will be tested?

Article from March 30, 2020: NASA's Mars helicopter almost ready for take off

It's not expected to do anything useful except prove that it can fly on Mars:

The Mars Helicopter is considered a high-risk, high-reward technology demonstration. If the small craft encounters difficulties, the science-gathering of the Mars 2020 mission won't be impacted. If the helicopter does take flight as designed, future Mars missions could enlist second-generation helicopters to add an aerial dimension to their explorations.


"Our job is to prove that autonomous, controlled flight can be executed in the extremely thin Martian atmosphere," said JPL's MiMi Aung, the Mars Helicopter project manager. "Since our helicopter is designed as a flight test of experimental technology, it carries no science instruments. But if we prove powered flight on Mars can work, we look forward to the day when Mars helicopters can play an important role in future explorations of the Red Planet."



Towlie

(5,318 posts)
27. Thank you, and it's hardly off topic to point out what I said.
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 12:16 PM
Feb 2021

 
?

It's a clever jab at Texas Republicans, but a bit premature. NASA needs to first prove it can fly a helicopter on Mars before we can brag about why we can fly a helicopter on Mars. It may be unlikely, but think about how that claim would backfire on us if the helicopter fails.

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