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Beto dropping the F bomb. I'm not mad about it. (Original Post) demmiblue Feb 2021 OP
Just makes me like him even more. Blue Dawn Feb 2021 #1
I cuss, lots. My people allow me to, also. I do it in joke or anger or story telling. But, Beto is LizBeth Feb 2021 #2
"But, Beto is doing it too much and needs to reel it back." NurseJackie Feb 2021 #15
Lol, I see what you did. I do think he is grown up and doing an amazing job. And I think he needs to LizBeth Feb 2021 #26
Choices moreland01 Feb 2021 #40
Not everyone sees someone's lack of internal filters as something to be admired. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #41
I am not throwing in higher standards, I guess that is where I am disagreeing with you. Because, LizBeth Feb 2021 #51
That really has nothing to do with what I said. I stand on what I am saying. Implying it is a choice LizBeth Feb 2021 #50
I agree. Have I used such language? Oh, yeah, but as you mention, I am not in the public eye. Atticus Feb 2021 #65
Reel it back? 48656c6c6f20 Feb 2021 #45
And I fuckin' disagree, ;) . LizBeth Feb 2021 #52
What is the problem in Texas, elect Beto! Bluethroughu Feb 2021 #3
As with everybody's Right to either like or dislike something, jimfields33 Feb 2021 #4
I agree blm Feb 2021 #5
I love it! onecaliberal Feb 2021 #6
Beto speaks with sincerity and passion jcgoldie Feb 2021 #7
I like the way you think. Mr. Evil Feb 2021 #11
I think the Texans can hear him loud and clear FakeNoose Feb 2021 #8
Beto being Beto Docreed2003 Feb 2021 #9
I totally disapprove mr_lebowski Feb 2021 #10
I really and TRULY dislike that about him... and I swear and use four language a LOT!! NurseJackie Feb 2021 #12
Gutter talk? ChubbyStar Feb 2021 #21
Yes... we should expect more from anyone who represents or speaks for Democrats... NurseJackie Feb 2021 #22
Blah blah blah ChubbyStar Feb 2021 #24
I guess I just have higher standards. He can do better... and he should. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #42
Ahh how sweet ChubbyStar Feb 2021 #47
It is just a word. The context of how it is used gives it meaning. n/t Lucinda Feb 2021 #34
I know what it meant in that context. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #35
I would vote on merits, and saying fuck in public isn't one. Kali Feb 2021 #36
Post removed Post removed Feb 2021 #38
LOL Kali Feb 2021 #55
Also get these kids off my lawn. Voltaire2 Feb 2021 #49
Who was that guy on the panel shaking his head while Beto made pertinent points wrt CanConCruize? msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #13
Those are the three brothers that... mockmonkey Feb 2021 #23
I gotcha, he might have been shaking his head sympathetic to Beto's charges of shame.. msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #29
Is there a process in TX to mount a recall election for Cruz? If done, does it just allow Gov to dutch777 Feb 2021 #14
you cant recall united state senators anywhere. drray23 Feb 2021 #32
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2021 #16
But where was he when he said that? Oh, that's right: in TEXAS!! Not Cancun. Beartracks Feb 2021 #17
If I had a dime for every time I've dropped the F bomb talking about Cruz, I'd be rich. Vinca Feb 2021 #18
An effective use the the F word. Pepsidog Feb 2021 #19
I agree, it was both casually said, and in proper context. patphil Feb 2021 #44
Obviously, the opinions of DUers do not matter question everything Feb 2021 #20
I am a Texas voter and it doesn't bother me a bit. broiles Feb 2021 #25
Of course you don't. Your support is granted. What about R's and Independents? question everything Feb 2021 #33
All the ones I've read on FB say they hate him and that he only won by 5.5%. And they'll ancianita Feb 2021 #53
I'm fine with it too. ananda Feb 2021 #27
Too many crooks.... Brainfodder Feb 2021 #28
Keep on keeping on Beto! nt liskddksil Feb 2021 #30
The double standard here is pretty poor. PurgedVoter Feb 2021 #31
Sometimes our safe words are also too mild, passive and ineffectual to encompass the scope Mr. Ected Feb 2021 #37
I heard that word on the TV during the 2nd impeachment trial, when they played clips of storming FailureToCommunicate Feb 2021 #39
Swearing seems to be so normal these days it's lost its power. Boomerproud Feb 2021 #46
I remember only one other time MustLoveBeagles Feb 2021 #58
I lost two friends that day. I was using those words a lot for days afterward. FailureToCommunicate Feb 2021 #62
I'm sorry MustLoveBeagles Feb 2021 #63
I love him even more now and I didn't think I could live him anymore than I did FlyingPiggy Feb 2021 #43
Big deal, he let an "f-bomb" fly. SergeStorms Feb 2021 #48
It's his schtick... It wasn't accidental. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #56
Beto has class. ReadItnWeep Feb 2021 #64
Not just "an f-bomb" Polybius Feb 2021 #67
I posit that the ones who are getting so vexed over a podcast use of 'fucker' to the point where Celerity Feb 2021 #54
Profanity, at times... DEbluedude Feb 2021 #57
BETO for Gov of Texas demtenjeep Feb 2021 #59
Calling Carnival Cruz a fucker is entirely appropriate. roamer65 Feb 2021 #60
I don't like him saying that either Poiuyt Feb 2021 #61
Mm, hi. As a Texan for almost 40 yrs, Texans cuss. I've worked in OK, CO, MS, but txwhitedove Feb 2021 #66

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
2. I cuss, lots. My people allow me to, also. I do it in joke or anger or story telling. But, Beto is
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 03:01 PM
Feb 2021

doing it too much and needs to reel it back. But... Yea Beto stepping in there day one to help Texans, save lives and clearly showing the difference of Democratic leadership and Republican leadership, or lack of.

Mild criticism because I love the guy and want him in our goverenment.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
15. "But, Beto is doing it too much and needs to reel it back."
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 03:44 PM
Feb 2021
But, Beto is doing it too much and needs to reel it back.
Yes! It reminds me of a youngster who JUST NOW learned that he could get adults to react by saying "fuck" in their presence. Many children THRIVE on negative attention.

I do not think it's unreasonable to have HIGHER standards of etiquette and HIGHER expectations from our elected representatives, our former elected reps, and ANY Democrat in the public eye.

Anything else is just tacky and classless. He needs to grow up and get control of his emotions and his vocabulary. Shit like that is so fucking unnecessary!

See? I can do that, because I'm not in the public-eye as he is. All I'm trying to say is that WE DESERVE BETTER!!

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
26. Lol, I see what you did. I do think he is grown up and doing an amazing job. And I think he needs to
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 04:24 PM
Feb 2021

cut back on the cussing. He feels a lot like me in cussing yet I am well able to not use fuck in certain social environments. Work would be one of the places.

moreland01

(738 posts)
40. Choices
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 05:52 PM
Feb 2021

If I had to choose between a candidate who says Fuck too much and one who is a genuine fucker, I'll take the former.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
41. Not everyone sees someone's lack of internal filters as something to be admired.
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 05:56 PM
Feb 2021

I guess I just have higher standards when it comes to what I expect (and what I'm willing to accept) from those who represent our party.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
51. I am not throwing in higher standards, I guess that is where I am disagreeing with you. Because,
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 06:29 PM
Feb 2021

My sons and I have had a lot of conversation about my lack of filter, lol and they love me anyway. They see the good in it.

I understand and can easily hear Beto because he is so much like me in that respect. I do not think it even comes close to disrespecting someone for this because there is an honesty and passion and truth in Beto's voice. Throw in smart and effective, I really love what we have in Beto. I love him riding the skateboard in whataburger. My son campaigned for him in Texas, in college and I have a huge fondness for the man. A lot of respect. And there are appropriate times, but... mellow out the cussing. I certainly do not see that he does not have high standards, I guess. I would like to see him as Gov of Texas, and I would hold him in very high standards and appreciation. I have a woman Gov in a blue state. It feels good.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
50. That really has nothing to do with what I said. I stand on what I am saying. Implying it is a choice
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 06:22 PM
Feb 2021

of who to vote for clearly tells me something weird happened in our conversation.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
65. I agree. Have I used such language? Oh, yeah, but as you mention, I am not in the public eye.
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 01:54 PM
Feb 2021

In my view, this boils down to: Might this offend some GOOD folks---people who post here and, like me, occasionally use language---in private---that peels paint and stuns guppies? Are there people in our communities who are considering voting Democratic but are looking for a reason not to?

I think the answer to both of those is "yes".

Maybe we should bring back that "WWJD?"---What Would Joe Do? (And, yes, I do remember "This is a big fuckin' deal!", but that was not intended for public consumption)

I'm with you, NJ.

jimfields33

(15,787 posts)
4. As with everybody's Right to either like or dislike something,
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 03:07 PM
Feb 2021

Some will be offended by it and some with brush it off. It’s an individual choice.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
7. Beto speaks with sincerity and passion
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 03:12 PM
Feb 2021

It isn't a gimmick and if it makes people clutch their pearls... well fuck em.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
9. Beto being Beto
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 03:20 PM
Feb 2021

Personally, I love it...and he's speaking truth. The fact that this fucker (Cruz) could continue to hold office or even consider seeking higher office after stoking an insurrection on Jan 6th is disgusting and appalling.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
12. I really and TRULY dislike that about him... and I swear and use four language a LOT!!
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 03:40 PM
Feb 2021

In a primary, his inability to refrain from swearing and dropping the F-bomb would make me vote for someone ELSE.

I think we should expect more from elected representatives, our former elected representatives, and any Democrat in the public eye. We should hold them to a higher standard. He's LOWERING standards of public officials by his inability to refrain from using gutter talk.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
22. Yes... we should expect more from anyone who represents or speaks for Democrats...
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 04:19 PM
Feb 2021

... and Democratic (liberal or progressive) causes and concerns. Whether elected, formerly elected, or just high-profile private citizens. We DESERVE better.

We should BE better (in all ways) than the classless GOP... wouldn't you agree?

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
24. Blah blah blah
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 04:22 PM
Feb 2021
Of course we should be better than the GOP, always but Beto dropping the F bomb is quite mild compared to their lies.

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
47. Ahh how sweet
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 06:05 PM
Feb 2021

I say let the fuck bombs fly as long as we rid our government of GOP cowards and traitors.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
35. I know what it meant in that context.
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 05:14 PM
Feb 2021

But Beto is a smart fellow. He could make better use of his vocabulary. He's not in college and the listeners are not his college buddies. He should be professional and respectful. He should speak as though he were talking to his grandmother... or mother... or Michelle Obama.

I think less of him because of it. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

All the ones who are cheering-on his tasteless behavior are the same ones who support him no matter what. For the folks he's trying to convince or persuade... this isn't the way to go about doing it.

Response to Kali (Reply #36)

msfiddlestix

(7,281 posts)
13. Who was that guy on the panel shaking his head while Beto made pertinent points wrt CanConCruize?
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 03:43 PM
Feb 2021

I guess a Trump and Cruz supporter, but wondering if just a pundit or a party official/per flak?

mockmonkey

(2,815 posts)
23. Those are the three brothers that...
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 04:21 PM
Feb 2021

founded MeidasTouch. I think that is Brett Meiselas? Hard to know what he is responding to. You might be reading too much into his head shakes. Might be different delays in sound depending on where he is.

msfiddlestix

(7,281 posts)
29. I gotcha, he might have been shaking his head sympathetic to Beto's charges of shame..
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 04:45 PM
Feb 2021

in a manner of speaking.. I could see that. thanks for info on who they were.

dutch777

(3,013 posts)
14. Is there a process in TX to mount a recall election for Cruz? If done, does it just allow Gov to
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 03:43 PM
Feb 2021

...just name a replacement rather than totally run an election with new candidates? If the former, probably not worth it. Of course one maybe could recall the Gov too given the lack of preparedness for the storm, poor response in the aftermath and the less than stellar response to Covid. Some serious challenges like these to sitting Repubs in flippable states would be a big kick in the butt to Repubs who think do nothing and then blaming others when things break bad is a path to success. Until people revolt (peacefully please) against these tactics of governance, there will be no progress.

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
18. If I had a dime for every time I've dropped the F bomb talking about Cruz, I'd be rich.
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 03:59 PM
Feb 2021

Good for Beto. That fucker Cruz deserves it.

patphil

(6,172 posts)
44. I agree, it was both casually said, and in proper context.
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 06:00 PM
Feb 2021

Absolutely the right f**king thing to say, given the situation.
Cruz is a dildo; that is to say, a mindless f**ker.

broiles

(1,367 posts)
25. I am a Texas voter and it doesn't bother me a bit.
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 04:23 PM
Feb 2021

As Rachel says, "watch what they do, not what they say."

ancianita

(36,051 posts)
53. All the ones I've read on FB say they hate him and that he only won by 5.5%. And they'll
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 06:33 PM
Feb 2021

remember all this in 2024.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
28. Too many crooks....
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 04:28 PM
Feb 2021

Way way way too many, until that is fixed and Republicans aren't a cult taking advantage, Americans be on near empty on actual services?

Worse medical care in the world cost wise on Earth?

Architect Mitch....

DUH!


PurgedVoter

(2,217 posts)
31. The double standard here is pretty poor.
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 04:55 PM
Feb 2021

In Texas, Republican leaders may dress up as cowboys and cuss. They are allowed to make bald faced lies. They can fake rage till it turns real about things that don't matter one bit to them. Wear a flag or beat a police man to death with it, fine, but don't let someone take a knee.
Democrats and people who care, have to apologize after they point out an obvious lie or say something that might be taken wrong by children.

Patriotism is love for a place and the inhabitants. AOC and Beto are both Texas patriots. AOC, not from Texas, but with more right to the title Patriot than any Republican who has not faced enemy fire in another country. Beto should keep cussing. He has righteous reasons for his anger and speech. The moment Republicans all turn on and reject Trump and all their other representatives for gross behavior and speech, I will want Beto to stop cussing. Till then, when I hear dog whistles, and in Texas, every tenth sentence from a white is expected to have a dog whistle, I will ignore any cussing.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
37. Sometimes our safe words are also too mild, passive and ineffectual to encompass the scope
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 05:33 PM
Feb 2021

of the degeneration of our politics.

Now is not the time to be timid. Now is not the time to mince words, to pull punches, or to mask our indignance.

The truth is plain to see. It's also hiding in plain sight. Time to call it what it is. It's Ted Cruz. And he's a fucker.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,013 posts)
39. I heard that word on the TV during the 2nd impeachment trial, when they played clips of storming
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 05:35 PM
Feb 2021

the Capitol. It was the first time I can ever recall those words NOT be bleeped out on TV.

Personally, I am not a fan of using "anglo saxon" words when others suffice. But I realize that outlook is losing favor these days, especially among young folks. Those words are tossed in to casual conversation all the time now, but they still make me wince.

(My father was a preacher, and though he never actually washed my mouth out with soap, using "anglo saxon" words would land you in big trouble.)

Boomerproud

(7,952 posts)
46. Swearing seems to be so normal these days it's lost its power.
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 06:04 PM
Feb 2021

My God at work the 20-30somthings drop the bomb every sentence. I yawn.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
48. Big deal, he let an "f-bomb" fly.
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 06:07 PM
Feb 2021

That's what people do when they're totally irritated by a punk like Ted Cruz. There's no way, or reason, you should sugar coat your reaction to a total jackass like Cruz after the crap he's pulled in the past two months.

ReadItnWeep

(39 posts)
64. Beto has class.
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 12:41 PM
Feb 2021

His schtick? I have only seen one other time where Beto cussed on tv and that was after the elPaso mass shooting. In that moment, it was absolutely ok to be that angry and express it. The f-bomb in this clip is during a discussion for a podcast/vlodcast with MediasTouch. Very informal setting. Not an interview on MSM or an official statement, or a setting that would would require a bit of a filter.
I think Beto is simply speaking. I think he also has enough sense and class to filter himself when required. Let me just say, if Beto went to meet the queen of England, I think he would embarrass us a lot less than the last president did.

Celerity

(43,339 posts)
54. I posit that the ones who are getting so vexed over a podcast use of 'fucker' to the point where
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 06:51 PM
Feb 2021

they are saying it offends them so much they would might not vote for Beto if there was another choice would go positively BONKERS over another Texan, LBJ. He cursed as much as Trump lies. He also often spoke with Cabinet members while sitting on the loo with the door open.


Poiuyt

(18,123 posts)
61. I don't like him saying that either
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 10:59 PM
Feb 2021

As someone who was in the public eye, I was very careful about my language and behavior. You never know when it might offend someone who is or might be a client or donor. It's very easy to get your point across without resorting to that sort of thing. Yes, most people are not going to be bothered, but a politician in a purple state cannot afford to disturb anyone.

txwhitedove

(3,928 posts)
66. Mm, hi. As a Texan for almost 40 yrs, Texans cuss. I've worked in OK, CO, MS, but
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 02:32 PM
Feb 2021

first time In ever heard cussing in a work place/office was Texas, beautiful Texas. My Oklahoma MIL got mad when I called boots "shit kickers". Here, if it's not real then it's Bullshit, yeah with a capital B. Move on. Beto is awesome.

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