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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Gig Economy Is Coming for Millions of American Jobs
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-02-17/gig-economy-coming-for-millions-of-u-s-jobs-after-california-s-uber-lyft-vote?utm_source=pocket-newtabCalifornias vote to classify Uber and Lyft drivers as contractors has emboldened other employers to eliminate salaried positionsand has become a cornerstone of bigger plans to Uberize the U.S. workforce.
The tower of aging Manila envelopes, stacked in a corner of Rome Aloises cluttered Bay Area home office, is a monument to five years of failure. Aloise, who heads the Northern California chapter of the Teamsters union, has spent a lot of time sitting across a table from officials at Uber and Lyft, trying to work out a deal to organize their drivers. The companies wanted to forge peace with labor while ensuring the workers would still be considered independent contractors without the legal rights employees are guaranteed, including the hourly minimum wage. The union wanted to increase its ranks and boost drivers pay without setting a precedent that would endanger its other members rights. The envelopes contain a small forests worth of rejected proposals, handwritten notes, and other detritus from a great many meetings that couldnt bridge the gap. Everybody would love to see some resolution, Aloise says. Its just what that looks like is the problem.
Back and forth the companies and the Teamsters have gone over the years, as the firmament has shifted around them. During Aloises first round of monthslong talks at Uber Technologies Inc.s headquarters in San Francisco, in 2016, the companys clout was on the riseits top officials included then-President Barack Obamas former campaign manager, and Obama himself joked about becoming an Uber driver after leaving the White House. A couple of years into the Trump era, the union appeared to have the upper hand, after California judges and legislators made it much tougher to call workers contractors if they were central to a companys operations. Now, however, union leverage is at a nadir, and the scenario that labor officialsincluding some who dont represent driversspent years trying to head off is beginning to unfold.
Last year companies such as Uber, Lyft, DoorDash, and Instacart spent a record $200 million campaigning for an Election Day ballot measure that would exempt them from the California law, arguing in ads and in-app messages that keeping drivers contractors would protect their ability to work. They won: Proposition 22, as the ballot measure is known, now limits their drivers in California to a set of sub-employee alternative perks such as an earnings guarantee that doesnt count the time or gas they burn waiting between trips. Prop 22 also insulates itself from future reform efforts by preempting local laws and requiring that any tweaks by the state legislature comport with its intent and pass with a seven-eighths supermajority. All this has left many drivers feeling stranded in the worst of both worldsas beholden to bosses whims as employees, without the corresponding protections.
Employees in related fields are already feeling the knock-on effects. In December, Albertsons Cos., the supermarket chain, started informing delivery drivers theyd be replaced by contractors. In California hundreds of Albertsons employees are being swapped for DoorDash Inc. workers, according to the United Food & Commercial Workers union. Albertsons declined to comment on the layoff figures but says that the move is happening in multiple states to help us create a more efficient operation and that affected workers are being offered other jobs there. (Some workers dispute that last part.) Startups such as Jyve Corp., which sends contractors to grocery stores to stock shelves in lieu of employees, are seeking similar exemptions.
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True Dough
(17,255 posts)Remember when company pensions were common? Even basic employee benefits are getting more difficult to find. This is always tilted in favor of corporations.
alwaysinasnit
(5,060 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)full partners in breaking it and keeping it broken by rejecting collective bargaining through unionization and supporting deregulation and elimination of labor rights.
We could fix business's hash in a heartbeat, but 40 years of decline in wellbeing hasn't been enough to turn its enablers around. Many who were badly hurt have nevertheless retired on Social Security in paid-off homes, or expect to, and leave the problems to younger generations.
Past time for younger generations of conservatives to rebel.
CrispyQ
(36,424 posts)The framers never meant for corporations to have the same Constitutional rights as We the People. There is actually some dispute as to whether the Supreme Court meant to bestow personhood rights on corporations back in the 1800s, but unfortunately, much like a sitting president can't be indicted, it's stuck.
Meet the Corporationthe Sierra Club A one page primer on corporate personhood.
Reclaim Democracy's Corporate Personhood pages A ton of good links here!
area51
(11,897 posts)not tied to any job.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,462 posts)i think its time to start revoking corporate charters, No one is entitled to have a business. A business that cheats and hurts workers is even worse. Enough of the goddamn greed and dehumanizing bullshit. They'd change their tune real fast if corporate charters got yanked over mistreating and exploiting workers to squeeze them. fuck efficiency fuck the corporate pigs and the republicans that adore this kind of corporate cruelty
JI7
(89,241 posts)alwaysinasnit
(5,060 posts)of the Proposition, and I'm certain that is what these corporations were counting on.
JI7
(89,241 posts)KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)20 years ago someone I know scored a job with P&G through a temp agency. The job was supposed to be temp for 6 months and then if they like you, they hire you. NOPE. For 7 years he was "temp" full time. No benefits. In the meantime his co-workers had medical insurance, vacation, retirement benefits.
The economy was not good at the time but once he could, he left and went to work elsewhere.
Now it won't even be "temp" as in we'll tell you how long you can expect to work here. Instead it will be a whole nation of day laborers. And then it will be "we have a 2 hr project for you".
alwaysinasnit
(5,060 posts)Klaralven
(7,510 posts)Skittles
(153,115 posts)yup
Initech
(100,042 posts)And the perfect bait and switch for the conservative propaganda machine. They get people to vote against their best interests, and when they actually do so, and the policies don't work in their favor, they use that as an excuse to trash liberals. Which gets people more riled up in their favor. Then rinse and repeat. That's how you get the Trumps of the world in power.
onethatcares
(16,163 posts)we never read of stories about CEOs having to unionize in order to get benefits....
Politicub
(12,165 posts)and over again.
I havent worked for about a year and a half. I hope to be able to get a salaried position after I get vaccinated. But articles like this make me frustrated about the overall trends in hiring.
I am thankful for Obamacare. If the US is truly going to a gig centric economy, health insurance needs to be universal and at a predictable cost. The one drawback about Obamacare is the rate subsidy changes dramatically based on income. Thats hard to predict when work is not steady, and can result in a big tax bill at the end of the year if youre not careful.