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Do you think the Orange Man will run for president in 2024? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 OP
I think Rver Feb 2021 #1
Yes and No genxlib Feb 2021 #2
Тяцмр'S not leaving money for ANYONE. Otherwise I think ... Whiskeytide Feb 2021 #4
Agree! As long as he doesn't declare he's not subject to FEC laws Thekaspervote Feb 2021 #22
He has to raise money somehow. n/t 3c273a Feb 2021 #3
No consequences for any of the sh*t he did, 45% of repubs would join his party. Best grift ever. Pobeka Feb 2021 #5
From prison? Maybe. marble falls Feb 2021 #6
I believe he will run 100%. kairos12 Feb 2021 #7
I doubt it. Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #12
Won't run because he can't win. Biden will be too popular. Butterflylady Feb 2021 #16
You need another option JT45242 Feb 2021 #8
He will need a 3.5 year campaign. I don't think that he is physically up for that. Chainfire Feb 2021 #9
I can't see him being physically capable of it . JI7 Feb 2021 #10
he can not be convicted by a jury rampartc Feb 2021 #11
Why can't he be convicted by a jury? Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #28
i hope you are right rampartc Feb 2021 #30
I'm sure it's possible Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #31
Yes Dave in VA Feb 2021 #13
No way. betsuni Feb 2021 #14
I think he'll be pushing up flowers by then...so no. NewHendoLib Feb 2021 #15
He seemingly will, and then he won't Tom Rinaldo Feb 2021 #17
100% he will Johnny2X2X Feb 2021 #18
Fascists love chaos & tRump will be their chaos candidate, again yaesu Feb 2021 #19
I'll go with Mary Trump's opinion. Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #20
I think he will go as far as possible to claim the frontrunner title, collect as much $$ as possible hlthe2b Feb 2021 #21
It'd be nice if he did us all a favor and fell out of a window at MAGA-Lardo. Talitha Feb 2021 #23
His ego won't let him do anything else but run andym Feb 2021 #24
I was just about to post "His ego won't allow him to risk losing again" Mike 03 Feb 2021 #25
He is a fervent follower of Norman Vincent Peale's positive thinking--a crazed optimist andym Feb 2021 #27
It's time to stop the obsession with this ex-president. DU is guilty. CNN is guilty. theneworiginal Feb 2021 #26
There will probably be a stock market correction between now and then andym Feb 2021 #29
I'll pass Johonny Feb 2021 #32
uh, he's already running. Voltaire2 Feb 2021 #33
I say no. He will play like to bilk the stupids. But will pull out and play king maker for someone SoonerPride Feb 2021 #34

genxlib

(5,580 posts)
2. Yes and No
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:08 AM
Feb 2021

He will declare and stir shit for 2 years but then drop out. Likely leaving a war chest for one of the spawn.

Whiskeytide

(4,475 posts)
4. Тяцмр'S not leaving money for ANYONE. Otherwise I think ...
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:10 AM
Feb 2021

... your spot on. He’ll just keep the money, though.

Thekaspervote

(33,555 posts)
22. Agree! As long as he doesn't declare he's not subject to FEC laws
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:40 AM
Feb 2021

He’s keeping the majority, if not all the money that is being donated right now. That’s the way he wants it

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
5. No consequences for any of the sh*t he did, 45% of repubs would join his party. Best grift ever.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:15 AM
Feb 2021

Unless he actually goes to jail, absolutely he'll run. On our side of the aisle, it was horrible. In the WH, on the links, he was getting his ego fed more than ever before. Why would he turn away from that?

Turin_C3PO

(14,809 posts)
12. I doubt it.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:27 AM
Feb 2021

Unless Biden really screws up. Biden’s approval has been at 62%. Trump barely reached 50% on a few occasions. His approval now is about 30% according to recent polls. He can’t overcome that much of a disadvantage unless something goes catastrophically wrong under Biden.

JT45242

(2,514 posts)
8. You need another option
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:24 AM
Feb 2021

Yes -- if he is out of prison


I am wondering if my wife is correct that no one has the backbone to actually indict and incarcerate this orange pus spot. I was certain that the "Individual 1" filing from the Mueller probe would be set to an automatic unsealing within 72 hours of his leaving office. Here we are over a month later and nothing.

No indictment on tax or security charges in NY.

No election tampering grand jury in Georgia.

My vote is, yes, unless he is in prison.

He'll certainly run while indicted. He could be on trial for sedition during the election and QOP would still vote for him.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
9. He will need a 3.5 year campaign. I don't think that he is physically up for that.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:25 AM
Feb 2021

However, if he surprises me, who do you think would run against him in the primaries with a majority of the Party still supporting Trump? The Republicans have thrown away the Party of the past and has become the Trumpist Party. If Trump can stay physically viable, the nomination will be his to lose again.

The flip side of that is Biden is also old (although apparently in far better shape than Trump) if he is unable or unwilling to run again, who will our party run against a possible Trump campaign. Assuming for a moment that we have to run against Trump, without Biden, who do we have waiting in the wings that could beat the Fascist Past President?

Trump, and Biden, are at that tender age when a person can just up and die on you in a heart beat. (pardon the pun) You have to plan for scenarios that could happen, not what you think will happen.

rampartc

(5,779 posts)
11. he can not be convicted by a jury
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:27 AM
Feb 2021

and will appeal any unfriendly opinions forever.

if he is still alive (how can he survive that diet and no exercise?) he will be nominated by the repubs and will probably win the election. his next vp will be a loyalist, probably a family member (his daughter in law will be senator and ivanka probably governor by then.)

Turin_C3PO

(14,809 posts)
28. Why can't he be convicted by a jury?
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 01:08 PM
Feb 2021

If he stands trial in DC, only 5% voted for him. In my anecdotal experience, even those 5% aren’t necessarily MAGA cultists. Same with Manhattan where only 12% voted for him. He could be convicted easily in either of those jurisdictions and possibly many others.

Dave in VA

(2,093 posts)
13. Yes
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:30 AM
Feb 2021

because he needs the cash. As long as the grifting is a positive cashflow, he will continue to go through the motions.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,966 posts)
17. He seemingly will, and then he won't
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:38 AM
Feb 2021

He'll drag it out as long as he can, and grift as much off it as he can, until he formally is required to state his actual intent to qualify for primaries. He can't lose by threatening to run, but he can lose if he does, and Trump HATES to lose.

Johnny2X2X

(20,033 posts)
18. 100% he will
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:39 AM
Feb 2021

He still has control over the Republican party and next week at CPAC you'll see him assert that control.

The GOP had their chance to dump him, they didn't, they're stuck with him.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
19. Fascists love chaos & tRump will be their chaos candidate, again
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:44 AM
Feb 2021

Deep pocket fascists made a shit load of money under Hitler, its all about the money & the banksters, capitalist fascists own the GOP, the GOP will support their man, its as simple as that.

Turin_C3PO

(14,809 posts)
20. I'll go with Mary Trump's opinion.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:48 AM
Feb 2021

She says he won’t run because his ego couldn’t take another loss. Sounds right to me.

hlthe2b

(103,638 posts)
21. I think he will go as far as possible to claim the frontrunner title, collect as much $$ as possible
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:14 AM
Feb 2021

for his own benefit, exact as much vengeance against those he believes did not support him in the meantime, thereby causing as much damage to his party and others as possible, but he will run out of time to actually run. By that, I mean either the civil and criminal investigations will come to a head, he will be financially too devastated to do anything but try to salvage his ill-gotten gains day in and day out, and/or what remains of the more sane half of the Republican party will force him to break off into a splinter party. Ultimately all that will cause him to eventually drop out, but too late for anyone thinking of claiming his hold on the party. Because he's going to soak up the attention as long as humanly possible.

Talitha

(6,901 posts)
23. It'd be nice if he did us all a favor and fell out of a window at MAGA-Lardo.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 12:38 PM
Feb 2021

Has anyone heard if he's filed for 2024 yet?

IIRC, he filed for the 2020 race right after his inauguration.

andym

(5,528 posts)
24. His ego won't let him do anything else but run
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 12:46 PM
Feb 2021

Unless his health is an issue, he'll run-- even if in prison.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
25. I was just about to post "His ego won't allow him to risk losing again"
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 12:56 PM
Feb 2021


I don't think he'll run because he will never again put himself in a position where he even might lose, because clearly this election loss was the worst, most humiliating experience of his life.

He will bluff and bluster, and scare a lot of people, but in the end he'll find some excuse not to run, or a health crisis (real or manufactured) will intervene.

andym

(5,528 posts)
27. He is a fervent follower of Norman Vincent Peale's positive thinking--a crazed optimist
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 01:02 PM
Feb 2021

Such people believe they can't lose, and if they do it is an anomaly--they think somehow cheating was involved--look where that thought led him. Just look at Trump's businesses-- failure after failure, yet always creating many more. Fear of failure is not operational with him. Why do you think he frequently says "What can go wrong?" He is a very unrealistic optimistic person and an extremely high tolerance of potential humiliation.

theneworiginal

(302 posts)
26. It's time to stop the obsession with this ex-president. DU is guilty. CNN is guilty.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 12:59 PM
Feb 2021

We all need to resist temptation to continue our involvement in an abusive relationship, end our addiction to highly-charged drama and stop empowering the abuser with attention.

It's not easy to do, but we are part of the problem if we don't move on.

andym

(5,528 posts)
29. There will probably be a stock market correction between now and then
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 01:08 PM
Feb 2021

as stocks are overvalued. Trump could use it as a campaign theme-- he would promise a return to the heights of the stock market bubble we are now in.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
34. I say no. He will play like to bilk the stupids. But will pull out and play king maker for someone
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:49 PM
Feb 2021

That's my guess.

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