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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThere were 2,831,000 deaths in 2018 in the U.S.
and 2,845,000 in 2019. Deaths year over year in normal years are mostly consistent.
When we get the full national death total from 2020, we will know the true toll of COVID-19.
I expect it to be higher than the reported numbers we have now. Not because of any conspiracy, but just because the reporting has not been completely accurate.
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There were 2,831,000 deaths in 2018 in the U.S. (Original Post)
edhopper
Feb 2021
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magicarpet
(14,150 posts)1. Many classified deaths "other than Covid" because Trump ie wanted to down play the reality of,...
.... the pandemic so hie re-election effort was not adversely affected.
FBaggins
(26,737 posts)2. That data is already in
About 3.3 million
CDC reported thru 12/26 it was 3.186
FBaggins
(26,737 posts)4. From the CDC
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
They do weekly figures and there's some overlap for the start/end of the year... but it's easy enough to extract and the December figures are final enough.
They do weekly figures and there's some overlap for the start/end of the year... but it's easy enough to extract and the December figures are final enough.
The CDC continues to update it's 2020 numbers well into February...
FBaggins
(26,737 posts)6. Same data
Total deaths in 2020, thru 12/26 were 3.187M according to the CDC
And if you add the final week of the year it's another 82k. Round to one decimal point and you get 3.3 million. If you want to insist on 3.269 I won't quibble.
Less automotive collisions and mask wearing has saved many lives (from regular flu).
Lots of other impacts in there. There are no doubt tens of thousands who died early because normal health care options (cancer screenings, cardiac rehab, etc.) were unavailable. There are also probably quite a few who died of the flu or other respiratory illnesses who were scored as COVID deaths by assumption.
The point is that the exact number of COVID deaths isn't something we can determine... but the official count appears to be roughly accurate. Not much use for those who want to pretend that the figures are vastly inflated... OR for those who think there's a massive undercount.
And if you add the final week of the year it's another 82k. Round to one decimal point and you get 3.3 million. If you want to insist on 3.269 I won't quibble.
Less automotive collisions and mask wearing has saved many lives (from regular flu).
Lots of other impacts in there. There are no doubt tens of thousands who died early because normal health care options (cancer screenings, cardiac rehab, etc.) were unavailable. There are also probably quite a few who died of the flu or other respiratory illnesses who were scored as COVID deaths by assumption.
The point is that the exact number of COVID deaths isn't something we can determine... but the official count appears to be roughly accurate. Not much use for those who want to pretend that the figures are vastly inflated... OR for those who think there's a massive undercount.
WarGamer
(12,444 posts)7. yup, thus my edited post. Thx!!
edhopper
(33,579 posts)8. Thanks for the
new data.