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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 02:22 PM Feb 2021

Conservative Catholics are now claiming that Joe Biden is "too obsessed" with LGBTQ people


Biden is supposedly pushing the "twisted" LGBTQ agenda, and has "total disinterest" in supporting religious communities. Some have even suggested denying him communion.

By Juwan J. Holmes Saturday, February 20, 2021

So far, some of the biggest critics of Joe Biden’s administration turn out to be Catholics who are not happy with the new President’s commitment to LGBTQ rights. As the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops meets this week, Catholic Church leaders are looking to reduce the friction between the group and only the second Catholic President in American history.

Others, however, are not trying to mend such a relationship. In press releases this week, the Catholic League complained that the new President has an “obsession” with LGBTQ people and prefers them to Christian people.

Although their board member L. Brent Bozell’s son was arrested as one of the people who stormed the U.S. Capitol during the January 6 riots, they’re more concerned with Biden’s supposed engagement “in ideological imperialism, shoving our twisted ideas of sexuality” on religious groups and other countries.

“President Biden used his first day in office to discuss human rights. However, he did not speak to this issue in a broad manner; rather, he limited his discussion to the rights of homosexuals and transgender persons. This tells us a great deal about his priorities,” the statement from CEO Bill Donohue on behalf of the 11,000-member conservative non-profit read.

“In contrast to Biden’s obsession with the rights of sexual minorities is his total disinterest in the rights of Christians,” they wrote. “Why are the rights of LGBT people given preferential treatment over Christians and other people of faith? Catholics, evangelicals, Mormons, Muslims and observant Jews would love to know.”

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Conservative Catholics are now claiming that Joe Biden is "too obsessed" with LGBTQ people (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2021 OP
No surpise here. I was raised by two generations of conservative catholics, this is predictable. redstatebluegirl Feb 2021 #1
We're here to stay vercetti2021 Feb 2021 #2
Who's obsessed? Projection on steroids. chowder66 Feb 2021 #3
I suspect Biden and the Pope are more on the same wavelength than Conservative Catholics would like dutch777 Feb 2021 #4
Why is it always a zero-sum game with these people? Ohiogal Feb 2021 #5
I didn't even read the article Sympthsical Feb 2021 #6
"Conservative Catholics" Catholic League Bill Donohue gratuitous Feb 2021 #7
He's a tired old bigot of the Westboro variety. Renew Deal Feb 2021 #17
Catholics like Donohue are cut from the same cloth as those who assured me when I was Atticus Feb 2021 #8
The howl of victimization peggysue2 Feb 2021 #9
personally, I think Joe Biden is obsessed with IcyPeas Feb 2021 #10
I was brought up Catholic Bluesaph Feb 2021 #11
We really need to put evangelical "Catholics aren't Christian" talk... JHB Feb 2021 #18
Boohoo. milestogo Feb 2021 #12
Let them return to Toledo and hold their son-of-Inquisition there DFW Feb 2021 #13
If religion makes people so damn happy lindysalsagal Feb 2021 #14
No. Actually, THEY are. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #15
Bill Donohue is an extremist. Renew Deal Feb 2021 #16
I believe that's called projection. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2021 #19
No kidding,one could see this coming Brush Bunny Feb 2021 #20
All the fringe flavors of right wing extremism... hunter Feb 2021 #21
The Allure of Narcissistic Spirituality Donkees Feb 2021 #22
LOL. "Too obsessed." PSPS Feb 2021 #23
RepubliCon Jesus sarcasmo Feb 2021 #24
Why should the government "support" religious comminities? Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #25
Inquisition, murdering women as witches, Crusades, genocide, pedophile priests Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #26
Funny, they have been obsessed with killing and torturing us for close to 2,000 years. Celerity Feb 2021 #27
In my experience much of the LGBT community iemitsu Feb 2021 #28
The Catholic Church TlalocW Feb 2021 #29
They have lost all moral authority..... TheRealNorth Feb 2021 #30

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
2. We're here to stay
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 02:25 PM
Feb 2021

Maybe because we aren't actively trying to ruin other peoples lives by telling them what they can and can't do? Fuck religion.

chowder66

(9,067 posts)
3. Who's obsessed? Projection on steroids.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 02:32 PM
Feb 2021

on edit: I love how they try to make LGBTQ and being Catholic/Religious mutually exclusive.

And as the poster above states....Fuck Religion.

dutch777

(3,013 posts)
4. I suspect Biden and the Pope are more on the same wavelength than Conservative Catholics would like
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 02:34 PM
Feb 2021

The Pope just dropped one of the conservatives out of the house of cardinals. I am surprised he has not done more housecleaning but the papacy has a much longer view than a four year term so I guess they have time. And for most of us, they are, thankfully, just archaic and meaningless. Kind of like debating baseball statistics.

Ohiogal

(31,989 posts)
5. Why is it always a zero-sum game with these people?
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 02:34 PM
Feb 2021

“If a gay person gets any civil rights, that means I am losing mine.”

Why can’t everyone have the right to the dignity of medical care ....to live where they want.... to work at a job they perform well .... to marry who they want? How does any of this take away anything from Christians already have??

Sympthsical

(9,073 posts)
6. I didn't even read the article
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 02:36 PM
Feb 2021

I saw the title and scanned the first few paragraphs. Did I see "Catholic League" and "Bill Donahue"? Yes, yes I did.

No need to read the rest of the article. He's the Catholic version of Falwell. Fortunately, most Catholics are not on that asshole's wavelength. Only 34% of Catholics oppose gay marriage. Donahue is on my pay no mind list.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. "Conservative Catholics" Catholic League Bill Donohue
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 02:36 PM
Feb 2021

Bill Donohue, one person, who apparently contains multitudes. But he sure knows how to get his name in the papers.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
17. He's a tired old bigot of the Westboro variety.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 02:54 PM
Feb 2021

Why does he get attention as someone speaking for Catholics?

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
8. Catholics like Donohue are cut from the same cloth as those who assured me when I was
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 02:39 PM
Feb 2021

about 6 or 7 that we Methodists, like all non-Catholics, were doomed to burn in hell forever unless we wised up and converted to the "true faith". I had never seen my mother so outraged as she was when I tearfully related what I had just been told.

I was not present to hear what she said to our "good Catholic" neighbors, but I was not welcome at their house after she paid them a visit.

Just one more reason why I still love that woman.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
9. The howl of victimization
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 02:40 PM
Feb 2021
We are the true victims, Donohue screeches for the one-millionth time.

And Pope Francis is a communist.

So saith the right-wing of the Catholic faith. Because loving thy brother has exceptions.

Bluesaph

(703 posts)
11. I was brought up Catholic
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 02:45 PM
Feb 2021

My experience in the Latin American communities of Southern California was so different from what these “Christians” believe. We were focused on grace and peace. All my life, even in Catholic school, we learned about loving our neighbor as ourself being only next to loving god as the most important thing. We had a mandatory class called, “Social Moral Guidance”, where we did learn about being “chaste” but the emphasis was on loving others and not judging.

Then in the 80’s evangelicals started stealing away Catholic youth with their rock bands and youth clubs and mega churchy things and the Catholic Churches started competing to try and prevent the youth from leaving. They became just like the evangelicals. I can’t stand going to Mass in so cal now. It sounds like a Calvary chapel.

JHB

(37,159 posts)
18. We really need to put evangelical "Catholics aren't Christian" talk...
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 02:55 PM
Feb 2021

...out were Catholics will see and hear it. I would think especially in Spanish-language media. It usually flys under the radar because Catholics naturally assume talk of "Cristian values" includes them, but there are plenty of evangelicals for whom "Christian" only means their own denomination or Protestantism, or related denominations if they're feeling generous.

It's a place where we can drive a wedge to break up that set of Republican voters.

DFW

(54,369 posts)
13. Let them return to Toledo and hold their son-of-Inquisition there
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 02:48 PM
Feb 2021

The reason my wife left the Catholic church (after over at least 500 years of her family being in it) is because they valued doctrine over reality. Priests in her town were sexually molesting young children and not taking action until the legalities got too hot, and the offending priests were transferred (never disciplined).

While their charities have done good works, they have no right to play a role in deciding laws or tax structure in the USA, and discrimination against--or giving privileges to--any one group due to their "religion" being offended should be grounds for legal restraint (goes for any and all religions, not just Catholics). The framers wanted a secular state. We are their heirs. We have a right to that legacy.

lindysalsagal

(20,679 posts)
14. If religion makes people so damn happy
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 02:49 PM
Feb 2021

why are they always attacking each other, even from within the same sects????

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
16. Bill Donohue is an extremist.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 02:53 PM
Feb 2021

I’m not sure why anyone considers anything he has to say legitimate. It’s questionable whether he’s even a catholic in good standing.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
21. All the fringe flavors of right wing extremism...
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 03:14 PM
Feb 2021

... these right wing Catholics being one.

It amuses the hell out of me when right wing Catholics side with right wing Protestant Christians who would send all Catholics to death camps if they had the power to do so, and have done so in the past.

Some of my ancestors, and a lot of my wife's ancestors, landed in the North American wilderness because right wing Protestants wanted them dead.

Donkees

(31,392 posts)
22. The Allure of Narcissistic Spirituality
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 03:19 PM
Feb 2021


The desire to control others in order to create a "perfect" environment that nurtures our sensitivities is a calling card of spiritual narcissism. True spirituality takes place in the holy messiness of the world

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-allure-of-spiritual-n_b_803415


PSPS

(13,593 posts)
23. LOL. "Too obsessed."
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 03:19 PM
Feb 2021

PATIENT: Doctor, I think I have a problem.

PSYCHIATRIST: Tell me about it

PATIENT: I can't stop thinking about sex. It never stops!

PSYCHIATRIST: Let's do a test. I will show you these ink drawings and you tell me what you see.

(Doctor shows several Rorschach inkblots and, each time, the patient describes some kind of sex act.)

PSYCHIATRIST: Well, it does seem that you have a fixation about sex

PATIENT: Me? You're the one with all the dirty pictures!

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,332 posts)
26. Inquisition, murdering women as witches, Crusades, genocide, pedophile priests
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 03:36 PM
Feb 2021

I don't give a runny shit what conservative Catholics say.

TlalocW

(15,381 posts)
29. The Catholic Church
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 03:48 PM
Feb 2021

Has long lost any claim to being able to preach morality to the rest of us including their own flock.

TlalocW

TheRealNorth

(9,478 posts)
30. They have lost all moral authority.....
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:31 PM
Feb 2021

When they fail to denounce Trump and the Republicans for forced separation of families/kids in cages/ forced sterilizarions. Funny how they only care about abortions and LGBTQ issues.

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