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Manchin voted to confirm Sessions, Barr, Grennell, Pompeo, and Kavanaugh. (Original Post) Bleacher Creature Feb 2021 OP
They all have penises. SoonerPride Feb 2021 #1
not sure about that. There is an inverse proportion involved still_one Feb 2021 #3
My appendage takes umbrage! Fritz Walter Feb 2021 #19
Excellent idea. Give him attention that he won't like. It will be a deterrent. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #2
So, no issue with a klansman with shady Russian ties (which he lied about Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2021 #4
Democrats are expected to be happy with the crumbs and scraps they are willing to part with. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #26
This is exactly the problem. They aren't asking him this. JI7 Feb 2021 #5
I'm angry Sanders started with a wag of the finger, scold to another woman demanding an apology. LizBeth Feb 2021 #6
Male politicians say and do horrific things, and nothing happens to them. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #8
Right on and I am not going ot pretend this is any other conversation like Sanders and others want LizBeth Feb 2021 #10
To this particular crowd of losers she is, more specifically, a SHE-devil. jaxexpat Feb 2021 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author jaxexpat Feb 2021 #32
Susan Collins Budi Feb 2021 #7
It's infuriating, but there's not a lot we can do about it. I think democrats in the Politicub Feb 2021 #9
And this fact: SCantiGOP Feb 2021 #21
Yes. There's that. Politicub Feb 2021 #31
I wish we had sixty two Democrats in the US Senate Vogon_Glory Feb 2021 #11
I wish that too, but you know what? When that happens in the republican party, republicans Escurumbele Feb 2021 #12
There are 17 Senate seats up for re-election in 2022 FakeNoose Feb 2021 #15
Many people on DU get irritated... SergeStorms Feb 2021 #13
he pisses me off too. Only the D keeps him from being utterly useless (if not worse) NewHendoLib Feb 2021 #16
As I mentioned above, SCantiGOP Feb 2021 #23
He may as well be. SergeStorms Feb 2021 #35
I wasn't going to post anything because it makes people mad blueinredohio Feb 2021 #27
from maddow yaesu Feb 2021 #14
Never think that no one is watching the other end of the Spectrum djacq Feb 2021 #17
So, recommend you get over it. We have REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT, Hortensis Feb 2021 #18
A MAJORITY of voters of WV. One democrat from one state out of 50 gets to hold up Autumn Feb 2021 #33
Yes. That's democracy. Those who assume they support democratic Hortensis Feb 2021 #36
He's the best we can hope for. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #20
I think of Manchin like that quote from Churchill about Democracy DFW Feb 2021 #22
We need to look and see if she tweeted about Manchin maxrandb Feb 2021 #24
Even GOP lackey Hugh Hewitt thinks Tanden should be confirmed. Manchin needs to reconsider. SunSeeker Feb 2021 #25
Manchin is a red dog democrat, a DINO, a throwback to the "Southern Democrat. Oldem Feb 2021 #28
Manchin is an idiot whose worst fear is being perceived as "liberal" BlueNProud Feb 2021 #29
all Manchin is, is a democrat number. SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #34
How many W.VA Republican voters or lean Republican voters are going to vote for Manchin Yavin4 Feb 2021 #37

Fritz Walter

(4,290 posts)
19. My appendage takes umbrage!
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:31 PM
Feb 2021

...at that analogy!

Mine happens to serve several useful purposes. Manchin? Not so much...

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,494 posts)
4. So, no issue with a klansman with shady Russian ties (which he lied about
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 03:45 PM
Feb 2021

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to everyone's faces), who then went on to kidnap children. But if you say some sassy shit on Twitter, you better watch your ass. And as far as Sanctimonious Caucus leader Collins goes. Whatever happened to Presidents, even fake ones, being entitled to staff as they wish?

BobTheSubgenius

(11,558 posts)
26. Democrats are expected to be happy with the crumbs and scraps they are willing to part with.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 06:00 PM
Feb 2021

Manchin gets an extra teaspoon of gruel with his Sunday breakfast as compensation for services rendered.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
6. I'm angry Sanders started with a wag of the finger, scold to another woman demanding an apology.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 03:51 PM
Feb 2021

That a female voice dare be confrontational. He got it on record. He set the scene.

Irish_Dem

(46,426 posts)
8. Male politicians say and do horrific things, and nothing happens to them.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:02 PM
Feb 2021

The women do a bit of totally justified trash talk and they are the devils.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
10. Right on and I am not going ot pretend this is any other conversation like Sanders and others want
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:06 PM
Feb 2021

us to do.

It is all about a woman speaking out and being swatted down.

jaxexpat

(6,795 posts)
30. To this particular crowd of losers she is, more specifically, a SHE-devil.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 06:33 PM
Feb 2021

Oh why? How valuable is the hive that demands their daughter expire flitting desperately from one damaged, putrid bloom to another in a ceaseless task, stealing enough nectar to honey-feed the gaping mouths of inbred larvae? The votes, The votes, alas it's the votes that cost this bon vivant its soul. And that one, too. And there, another. There is no righteous one, not any.

Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #8)

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
9. It's infuriating, but there's not a lot we can do about it. I think democrats in the
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:06 PM
Feb 2021

senate are reluctant to push back too hard because he could change parties and flip the senate to republican control.

SCantiGOP

(13,862 posts)
21. And this fact:
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:45 PM
Feb 2021

He gives us a Democratic seat in one of the 10 most Repub states in the nation. His presence made Schumer the head of the Senate.
As long as he votes with us 50%+ of the time, I see him as an asset.

Vogon_Glory

(9,109 posts)
11. I wish we had sixty two Democrats in the US Senate
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:47 PM
Feb 2021

Then we could afford to be more particular as to who we have in our ranks. This last time our senatorial candidates lost in Kansas, Iowa, Texas, Maine, North Carolina, and other states we thought we’d pick up.

Escurumbele

(3,374 posts)
12. I wish that too, but you know what? When that happens in the republican party, republicans
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:11 PM
Feb 2021

know how to deal with dissenters, Democrats need to do the same, there are many subtle ways to do it, they need to find one to put Manchin in his place to cooperate.

I have been saying this about Manchin, and I got beat up for saying it, but people need to understand that Manchin, at least to me, is a republican in disguise.

SergeStorms

(19,148 posts)
13. Many people on DU get irritated...
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:14 PM
Feb 2021

when anyone badmouths Manchin, but he just flat out pisses me off, so sorry about that. As far as President Biden's agenda goes, Manchin might just as well sit on the other side of the aisle.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. So, recommend you get over it. We have REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT,
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:24 PM
Feb 2021

and Manchin is the choice of the MAJORITY of voters of WV.

Remember democracy, majority rule? That people who live other states get to vote for their OWN representatives but not impose their choices on other states?

We're all of us either pro-democracy or we are anti-democracy along with the trumpists. There is really no middle ground, as in "pro" when I get my way, but otherwise not.

Autumn

(44,972 posts)
33. A MAJORITY of voters of WV. One democrat from one state out of 50 gets to hold up
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 06:45 PM
Feb 2021

Joe's agenda and gave cover to the 2 Republicans who might have been willing to vote for her to vote no on her. Representative? I'm not so sure, but Manchin sure represented something on Trumps nasty ass picks.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
36. Yes. That's democracy. Those who assume they support democratic
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:11 PM
Feb 2021

government even while claiming they have the right, and even a duty , to subvert the sovereign rights of all who disagree with them really need to do some serious thinking.

Unfortunately for those of all ideologies who are fed up with being outvoted by majorities and cannot accept and respect the rights of others, the liberal Democratic Party is implacably committed to maintaining our democratic republic. We're the kind who created it in the first place, after all. You know, how best to secure for everyone equality and rights to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness through government of, by and for the people?

But those ideals are not shared by everyone by a long shot.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
20. He's the best we can hope for.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:38 PM
Feb 2021

I'd rather have him than not. Without him, we no longer have the majority in the Senate.

DFW

(54,268 posts)
22. I think of Manchin like that quote from Churchill about Democracy
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:45 PM
Feb 2021

Manchin is the worst Senator we could have except for all the Republicans that could be there instead of him.

Sure, we'd prefer an Al Franken clone, but Al Franken would get 26% of the vote in a West Virginia Senate race.

maxrandb

(15,292 posts)
24. We need to look and see if she tweeted about Manchin
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:48 PM
Feb 2021

He's probably butthurt that she may have said mean things to him.

As far as Susan Collins goes...she goes whichever way Moscow Mitch goes. It's a symptom of having your head up someone's ass. You tend to follow them.

SunSeeker

(51,504 posts)
25. Even GOP lackey Hugh Hewitt thinks Tanden should be confirmed. Manchin needs to reconsider.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:55 PM
Feb 2021
Tanden has apologized for her tart language. Senators — not just Manchin but also Republicans — should accept that and vote to confirm her.

It would be one thing if Tanden had been nominated to a lifetime appointment for a federal judgeship, for which a higher standard applies and judicial temperament is part of the equation. But that test doesn’t apply with the same force to executive branch officials, and, in any event, presidents are entitled to broad deference in how to assemble their Cabinet. New presidents who have four years to succeed deserve their team in place, absent disqualifying personal flaws or other serious cause for concern. There are exceptions to every rule, but “mean tweets” doesn’t even come close.

This is especially true when it comes to the Office of Management and Budget, which is almost an extension of the White House staff. The closer one gets to the Oval Office, the more deference a president’s nominees should receive on policy grounds. The secretaries of state and defense and the attorney general might need to have been living above the public fray, but the fray exists to elevate presidents and parties. Disqualifying the most effective of the pugilists is going to rebound on both parties, whose younger generations are full of Twitter addicts who approach debate like the locker room of soccer club AFC Richmond. Finally, senators should remember there will be another GOP president. He or she will want their own team — and that team should be full of the party’s best minds, including those who have displayed sharp elbows on air and online. For 40 years, I’ve watched fine nominees be pulled under withering insinuation and false accusations. From John Agresto, unsuccessfully nominated to be the national archivist by President Ronald Reagan, to Andy Puzder, unsuccessfully nominated to be secretary of labor by President Donald Trump, I’ve seen friends of surpassing talent denied the opportunity to serve because of ridiculous overreaction and fictional charges. It’s time to reset the confirmation bar to exclude only serious objections, not the fact that some senators carry grudges and that the group as a whole wants a safe harbor from mean tweets. One or more GOP senators should step forward and set a precedent for the next Republican administration: “I am voting to confirm Neera Tanden despite what she has said or written about me or my fellow senators because the president deserves his first team on the field early. And we expect the Democrats to play by the same rules in four or eight years.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/02/20/gop-should-forgive-neera-tanden/

Oldem

(833 posts)
28. Manchin is a red dog democrat, a DINO, a throwback to the "Southern Democrat.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 06:20 PM
Feb 2021

We might as well get use used to his not marching to the progressive drum. As such, he'll be a thorn in the Dem caucus's side until somebody makes him an offer he can't refuse--probably a succession of offers, since he now knows he has the swing vote. What a power trip he must be on!

BlueNProud

(1,048 posts)
29. Manchin is an idiot whose worst fear is being perceived as "liberal"
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 06:23 PM
Feb 2021

there's no principal behind what he does. In his own way just as venal as Graham or Rand Paul,

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
34. all Manchin is, is a democrat number.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 06:57 PM
Feb 2021

That is all he is. A number in our total column. You cannot count on him. But you can count him when it comes to who chairs comittees. When you come to that realization, it is much easier to handle his idiocy.

Yavin4

(35,420 posts)
37. How many W.VA Republican voters or lean Republican voters are going to vote for Manchin
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:37 PM
Feb 2021

because he blocked Tanden? Probably 0.

So, who exactly is he courting favor with? Manchin, like all other elected Democrats in the Senate, are tied with Biden. There's no escaping that. Being a maverick to Biden's agenda does nothing for you politically. NOTHING.

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