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Manchin again... (Original Post) DURHAM D Feb 2021 OP
I'm telling you people it is because she doesn't have a penis SoonerPride Feb 2021 #1
Well it would be 2 to 0, so a trend perhaps.... OnDoutside Feb 2021 #6
Bill Kristol agrees and adds the fact that he is a racist. nt DURHAM D Feb 2021 #13
And if that's what Bill Kristol thinks... 2naSalit Feb 2021 #14
Wtf ? OnDoutside Feb 2021 #2
What is his problem with women of color? W_HAMILTON Feb 2021 #3
I think you just answered your own question SoonerPride Feb 2021 #5
+1 2naSalit Feb 2021 #16
Somebody needs to tell this guy Alpeduez21 Feb 2021 #4
Manchin may as well be a republican. He's blocking his own party's agenda just like repugs do. brush Feb 2021 #7
He is utterly worthless SoonerPride Feb 2021 #9
Primarying Manchin would be pointless. Ocelot II Feb 2021 #10
You're probably right. I'm doing wishful thinking. It might turn out ok for us... brush Feb 2021 #18
Are you sure? jimfields33 Feb 2021 #24
Sorry. It's 2022, a couple of years, where more republicans are up for re-election. brush Feb 2021 #26
Yes! 2022 we expand our majority in the senate. jimfields33 Feb 2021 #28
We can work to get enough of a cushion in the Senate TDale313 Feb 2021 #20
Exactly. In 2022 is when more republicans are up for re-election. A good opportunithy for us. brush Feb 2021 #27
Tell me agian why he is a Democrat. I know we need him but...... efhmc Feb 2021 #8
Manchin is a thorn that needs to be excised demtenjeep Feb 2021 #11
Joe Manchin is a pimple on the ass of our party. Magoo48 Feb 2021 #12
Yes, but at least he's not a pimple on the ass of the other party. JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2021 #15
He's really wallowing in this ... jeez I wish he could be kicked to the curb Fullduplexxx Feb 2021 #17
Funny, he is all in on male nominees Bettie Feb 2021 #19
Screw this guy angrychair Feb 2021 #21
Is Manchin going to sink the nomination? AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2021 #22
Joe Lieberman clone. old guy Feb 2021 #23
Nice rational guy. He's swell. nt JanMichael Feb 2021 #25
he's not up for reelection until '24 bigtree Feb 2021 #29
Get used to this. He and Sinema are going to block a lot. Celerity Feb 2021 #30

2naSalit

(86,593 posts)
14. And if that's what Bill Kristol thinks...
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:12 PM
Feb 2021

That's saying something there. He is a racist and I hope he figures out he has to live in the same world as the rest of us.

brush

(53,776 posts)
7. Manchin may as well be a republican. He's blocking his own party's agenda just like repugs do.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:57 PM
Feb 2021

May be time to think about primarying him.

Ocelot II

(115,686 posts)
10. Primarying Manchin would be pointless.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:01 PM
Feb 2021

Nobody even slightly more liberal than Manchin could win an election in WVA against any GOPer.

brush

(53,776 posts)
18. You're probably right. I'm doing wishful thinking. It might turn out ok for us...
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:15 PM
Feb 2021

Last edited Mon Feb 22, 2021, 08:15 PM - Edit history (1)

in 2022 as there are several more republican senators up for re-election than there are Democrats. Here's hoping we win a couple of those races so we can just disregard Manchin and his continuous obstructionism.

BTW, your other screen name had a nice ring to it.

jimfields33

(15,793 posts)
24. Are you sure?
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 06:12 PM
Feb 2021

Last edited Mon Feb 22, 2021, 08:29 PM - Edit history (1)

I looked and it says 21 democratic senators, 1 Independent and 10 republicans up in 2024.

We have the incumbency going for us. Typically presidents win two in a row. Trump loss was obvious. George Bush Senior lost due to a rare straight 3 GOP elections. Carter lost due to horrible timing.

jimfields33

(15,793 posts)
28. Yes! 2022 we expand our majority in the senate.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 08:26 PM
Feb 2021

Timing for us is good. Even though 2024 is sorta tough for us, we have the presidential run which will help us.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
20. We can work to get enough of a cushion in the Senate
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:19 PM
Feb 2021

That his vote is irrelevant and can’t hurt us. That’s my goal.

Magoo48

(4,709 posts)
12. Joe Manchin is a pimple on the ass of our party.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:04 PM
Feb 2021

He’s sittin’ in the wrong dugout; he’s playin’ for the other team. He has no clue about our common welfare as a national party. His constituency is opposed his stance on minimum wage. He acts like a man who’s payola laden and beholden to corporate America.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,339 posts)
15. Yes, but at least he's not a pimple on the ass of the other party.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:13 PM
Feb 2021

On the ass of our party, he earns us the senate majority with chairs of all committees.

angrychair

(8,698 posts)
21. Screw this guy
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:20 PM
Feb 2021

This is becoming ridiculous. Iong for the day we can stop hanging our every effort in appeasement of Manchin and Sinema

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,011 posts)
22. Is Manchin going to sink the nomination?
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:28 PM
Feb 2021

Or is he looking for a safe "no" vote for a nominee that's secure? Honestly, if Haaland (and Tanden for that matter) get 50 votes, I could care less what Manchin does. And I suspect that he has cover if he's making these moves (more likely w/ Haaland - Murkowski and Romney would likely be supporting her).

If he kills the nominees, that's another story though.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
29. he's not up for reelection until '24
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 08:35 PM
Feb 2021

...so this isn't positioning to save WVa. from the libs, like his defenders insist he's doing, it's true belief in conservative claptrap.

He reasons right along the lines of the people his party are opposing. This is our new Democratic president's nominee he's opposing, but he kowtowed to Trump's choices, like the EPA chief who left office in disgrace, Scott Pruitt, and Bill fucking Barr.

Celerity

(43,349 posts)
30. Get used to this. He and Sinema are going to block a lot.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 08:56 PM
Feb 2021

Push him too hard and he will flip to the Repugs or go full indie and not caucus with either side. Hello Majority Leader McTreason-McTurtle, goodbye Biden agenda, plus a chance that SCOTUS goes 7-2 hard RW, as the Rethugs will NEVER again, if they control the Senate, allow a Dem SCOTUS nominee to even get a vote, even if it means years and years of blocking.

2022 is NOT at all a sure thing that we increase our majority. We have 4 at risk seats (GA, NH, NV, AZ), the Rethugs have the two open purple state ones (NC and PA) plus maybe Shithole Johnson in Wisconsin (it rhymes). FL and OH (a little better chance now that Portman is retiring, but OH is red now, solidly) are reaches, barring Trump shenanigans with Rubio. We will be fighting a massive poltical history of Red Waves, as the last two first Dem POTUS midterms, 1994 and 2010, were utter disasters for us. We have a real possibility to lose the House as well, likely a higher chance there than the Senate, unfortunately. We have 35 to 45, 50 or so at risk seats, and the Rethugs have far less. 2018 was an abnormality, as many of thosee flips we had simply reverted back to their Rethug norms (some for 25, 30, 40 plus years) in 2020.

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