Do you think this is happening? That at some level the far right...

[LAS14]

... know that the "news" they're depending on consists of stories made up to promote their positions, and so they have little trouble believing that the MSM also consists of made up stories? They've just lost a concept of people seeking out truth?

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[flying_wahini]

1. NAw, they just stupid.

[crazylikafox]

2. No

They actually believe all the lies that right-wing media is feeding them

[Wounded Bear]

3. To a certain extent, we all follow people we trust for our information...

it's in the selection of who they trust where people go wrong. Hucksters, charlatans, and political dirty tricksters have relied on this fact since time immemorial. Once people have chosen who they will believe, it is virtually impossible to get them to change that without significant trauma and external influence.

So, yeah. Once people have dived down that rabbit hole, it's hard to get them back to reality and easy for their cult leaders to convince them that "I'm not the liar! They're the ones lying to you!" Hell, organized religion is thoroughly grounded in this.

[Dustlawyer]

13. Unfortunately, most of the media today has some form of propaganda.

The RW media is by far shameless in its lies, but many other media outlets have a more subtle form of it. Many times it involves stories they do not report. In the BP oil spill there were very few victim impact stories or reports on the efficacy of the “class settlement.” That is because the big advertisers (oil companies) did not want those stories aired. BP even bought up almost all of the documentaries that were being made about it.

When the McDonalds coffee case went down Americans were made to think it was a frivolous suit against McDonalds. None of the media outlets reported what really happened, even though there was a whole trial worth of public evidence. McDonalds is/was a huge advertiser and the media protected them.

Big political donors are also big advertisers. They control the media and the politicians with their money. They manipulate the citizens (voters) to do what they want. To solve most of our problems we must address these root causes, campaign finance and propaganda. Gone are the days when the news departments are separate from the advertising departments.

[Towlie]

4. There are those who will believe it when they see it and those who will see it when they believe it.

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[LAS14]

14. Is that original with you? It's certainly quotable. nt

[Towlie]

16. A Google search for "see it when" "believe it" returns over 11 million hits, so...

... I guess I can't claim to be the author.

Google search

[LAS14]

17. Well, you can if you thought of it before you googled it!! :-) nt

[Thomas Hurt]

5. this goes beyond bias and into gullibility and magical thinking.

[GeorgeGist]

6. 80% of Republicans identify with the far right.

[Mike 03]

7. I think it's strategic. If you are basing your current and future political

fortunes on a large segment of the population believing things that are not true, you also have to discredit the legitimate news sources that challenge those lies.

It's really the same reason that more successful authoritarian regimes simply eliminate opposition media, like has happened in some European nations under similar assault.

[C_U_L8R]

8. There are two core parts of the right wing

The hands. And the yo-yo’s.

[Nevilledog]

12. *snort*

[Pobeka]

9. Yes. It's projection.

Projecting your own belief system onto others, "If I do it, so must everyone else -- it's normal".

[dawg day]

10. Their worldview starts with "Everyone is lying to you."

"Except me." (Me is Q or Trump, that's about it.)

So as long as they see OANN as the trumpet of Trump or Q, they believe it. The moment they think OANN isn't perfectly blasting Trumpfarts, they'll decide OANN is lying too.

I don't think these Trump-licking people are cynical like Jason Miller or Sean Hannity...
I think they're stupid and they think they're smart.

[blue sky at night]

11. This makes sense

But I don’t think they can do that kind of thinking...if they could your idea makes perfect sense. My relatives that are victims of forty plus years of brainwashing would never think the “news” they follow is made up. Thanks for posting.

[lunatica]

15. I believe they think everyone is like them

with the difference being that they’re better at backstabbing, destroying, ruining and using people so therefore they’re the top dog. The rest of humanity is just jealous that they can’t be as good at it.