Whoa! Amy Klobuchar is going for the throat. Insurrection is being confirmed.

[Baitball Blogger]

Will you agree that this was an organized/coordinated attack on the Capitol?

Yes.

Will you agree that it involved White Supremacists?

Yes.

And now she's connecting what Trump said in his rallies with what happened.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

1. Good. Riots are spontaneous. Insurrections are planned.

[uponit7771]

6. Now to get the MSM.to stop calling 1/6 a riot

[soldierant]

51. they use "riot" for every fricking thing.

It's not just the "Capitol Riot."

The Greenwood Massacre is to this day known as the "Tulsa Race Riot."

And I know I'm missing many, but that one always pushes my buttons.

[malaise]

10. THIS

I scream every time I hear or read it described as a riot

[HUAJIAO]

31. "RIOT" and "MILITIA" drive me nutso....

[wnylib]

41. Militia does not bother me at all.

Militias are organized paramilitary groups that operate outside the law, usually composed of thugs working for an ideology and acting as private "armies" for politicians.

The word militia no longer has the same meaning as it did in the 18th century when our constitution was written. That role and term has been replaced by the National Guard.

After the First World War, when Germany was in chaos before the Weimar Republic was firmly established, former soldiers formed militias to maintain "law and order" on behalf of various left and right wing politicians. Hitler got militia support thst, over time, morphed into the SA thugs and then the SS, aka, Gestapo.

So the word militia applies directly to the magat and Qanon thugs who attacked the Capitol.

[HUAJIAO]

42. Well, I would call them terrorists.

[wnylib]

43. But militias are more organized into

paramilitary units than most terrorists are.

Groups like Al Qaeda and Isis are organized, but they carry out individual acts of terrorism for its own sake, to terrorize. And many terrorists are individuals who act independently. Militias are organized groups with the goal of total overthrow of a government on behalf of a political leader whom they expect to rule when they succeed. They are politicized private armies.

[plimsoll]

53. Exactly.

And now we should be calling them paramilitaries. The GOP is the political arm of the white supremacist / Neo Fascist paramilitaries. That was obvious from the moment that federal law enforcement said that the domestic terrorism was a growing threat and the GOP said it shouldn't be pursued because it was aimed at conservatives. Instead of backing down we should have been asking, why the GOP was supporting domestic terrorism.

[Tommymac]

52. Me too. We need to stop quibbling about semantics

And call them what they are:

DOMESTIC TERRORIST INSURRECTIONISTS.

[Kahuna]

2. I love this woman. Amy for Majority Leader! nt

[NCjack]

20. Oh, yes. I would love to hear from her regard Moscow Mitch:

"... but, he persisted!"

[dalton99a]

27. +1

[JustAnotherGen]

3. Listening with one ear

She keeps going. She's not going to stop.

[DUgosh]

4. Who is she asking?

For those without a stream

[Baitball Blogger]

7. Sounds like she was asking a collective response from the security officials

who are being interrogated. In other words, the people who would have reviewed the data and know the answers.

Two or three people responded to her question, and one or more were on Zoom.

[YorkRd]

5. One of my favorite Senators!

[hlthe2b]

8. I love her. I just wish Al Franken were there with her (no slam to his replacement, but we

need what Franken could bring).

[Baitball Blogger]

9. +1

[ancianita]

11. That is unanimously agreed IN HINDSIGHT. Their job was to know an insurrection was coming THEN.

What's the difference between them then and them now:

But they got hamstrung by the intermediary JTTF between them and the FBI's intel memo about crowd plans for "war."

THAT is the reason they say yes now. But they couldn't say yes then because FBI intel was kept from them.

[Baitball Blogger]

13. Which tells me that they're trying to figure out how high up this coordinated effort goes.

[ancianita]

16. It came up in the first 5 minutes. When Klobuchar got a "no" from all 3 that they did NOT get

the FBI's Jan 5 intel. BUT one of them said it was the Joint Terrorism Task Force that got the FBI's intel report. THEY are the entity that should have passed it along (coordinated) to all 3 here but DID NOT.

So. NOW they know. But THEN they were kept from knowing by the JTTF. Why? I have a theory.

[Ford_Prefect]

21. It's not only how high it goes. It's also to do with specific interference at critical points.

It's clear that there was planned and coordinated interference which was designed to amplify institutional inertia and to hamstring decision making before and during the crisis. I think when we tease out enough of the details this will look very coordinated and thought out by minds more clever and sinister that DJT.

To me it smells a lot like what the Russians did in destabilizing Ukraine. Yes, I say this often. I say it because so much of the pattern and the specifics map out that way, and because some of the same players are working behind the scenes. DJT isn't a clever strategist. This took the kind of mind that thinks 20 moves or more ahead, not a reactive, defensive paranoid who has no head for details.

[theneworiginal]

24. Yes, and while DJT wasn't the strategist, that planning was done at his direction.

Anything tRump does has Russian fingerprints on it.

[ancianita]

28. Right. The main thing is the witting interference and bad judgment at critical points.

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Right now, one critical point was the Joint Terrorism Task Force for Capitol Police.
JTTF is a law enforcement interface branch of the FBI.

[diddlysquat]

23. Please share your theory. No text

[ancianita]

30. First, we need to know the names of the JTTF on duty that day. I can't find their names.

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My theory is based on two proclivities shown by the FBI in the past -- being Republicans, and having race bias. JTTF is connected to the FBI. Here's an overview from wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Terrorism_Task_Force

If we could know the JTTF taskforce names on duty that day, we'd know their performance records and bios and political affiliation(s).

Then they could be questioned by the Klobuchar's oversight committee on
-- what their job is,
--what they knew (the FBI memo),
-- when they knew it, and
-- why they did not forward the FBI intel they knew to all capitol law enforcement.

My theory is that they decided that a white crowd talking "war" online
-- was not to be taken as dangerous, just social media chatter, not mobilization;
-- would not actually bring lethal arms to the capitol;
-- would get the president's backup control if they misjudged the crowd's actions (lol);
-- would not hurt anyone during the capitol Ellipse rally, march, or possible entry into the Capitol.

Furthermore, if JTTF were to swear under oath in Klobuchar's next hearing,
-- they would likely not say any of this;
-- they would not admit their pro-white racial bias (unless asked if they would forward this intel if it were about BLM saying the same and mobilizing online), perhaps because they believe they're not aware of it;
-- they would simply claim they misjudged the need to forward this intel and their recommendations to the LEO's of the Capitol. AND

There would be no followup drill down by the committee on WHY they think they "misjudged" that need to forward their intel.

DUMB is what intel and law enforcement play when they fail to coordinate. For all their jargon and sidestepping knowledge ("I'm not aware," "No one contacted me" ) they play DUMB.

And Americans end up DEAD. The fact that THIS time it was directed at Congress does not mean that Americans will enjoy any trickle down restructuring of the Intel-Enforcement nationwide.

I could be wrong, and hope I'm wrong. But that's my theory -- the pro-white bias of the Republican FBI and law enforcement.

[Baitball Blogger]

33. Very detailed.

I got the impression they know where they're going with this investigation. The first round may be just to put the culprits on the record.

[ancianita]

34. Who are the culprits?

[triron]

55. Who was on that task force? Any Trump 'appointees'?

[ancianita]

56. That's exactly my question. I've looked up JTTF and can't find names. Could that be classified?

The issue is that they and their judgment were the weak link breakdown on hardening up capitol law enforcement.

After Contee stated that JTTF got the intel from the FBI, that fact suddenly disappeared from the entire committee questioning.

It went right over their heads. Klobuchar, if she caught that, would do well to call them to her next federal level hearing and question them -- what did they know, where did they get it from, who were they supposed to pass it to, and why didn't they.

IF she calls JTTF, then we'll know their names. Maybe. They might not even be the JTTF personnel on duty that day, just their bosses. In which case they'll give answers that are no answers.

[ancianita]

57. Furthermore, JTTF have a reputation for being a thorn in the side of local law enforcement.

FBI Joint Terrorism Task Forces (JTTFs) inflict harm on local communities through racial profiling, harassment, suspicionless surveillance and investigations, and exploitation of immigration enforcement, all of which are authorized under federal guidelines loosened after 9/11.

The FBI relies on the labor of state and local law enforcement officers assigned to the JTTFs, who agree to follow federal guidelines even if they conflict with state and local law, policies, and regulations.

Civil rights advocates and community groups in Portland, San Francisco, and Oakland organized successful campaigns and lobbying operations to demand that their city legislatures hold local police accountable to local laws and ultimately withdraw from the JTTFs when the FBI refused to allow such public accountability

https://www.brennancenter.org/events/bad-partners-why-local-law-enforcement-should-leave-fbi-joint-terrorism-task-forces

They are the weak link that keep pro-white bias cockblocking local, and in this case, federal; they kept law enforcement from taking preventive measures against the militants whose goal is to assassinate congressional leaders and keep white minority rule at federal and state levels.

JTTF itself needs an external investigation by Congress.

[triron]

62. Seems like JTTFs are closely associated with ICE.

There's a red flag right there, especially so under Trump.

[ancianita]

64. ICE is only one of their interfaces at Homeland. The main thing: they're not independent of

the FBI mission, which is "Threat Assessment." But they kind of are, and because of their pro-white bias, pick and choose who to define as "threat." And it's not militias, accelerationists (part of Nazi activity), right wing media owners or trumpculters.

[ancianita]

58. Okay. I found one "affiant submission" to U.S. Magistrate Judge, Zia M. Faruqui, that one JTTF

guy claims he was on JTTF duty on Jan. 6. Since his name is blacked out, the JTTF's Jan 6 personnel on duty must be classified or sealed per some stipulation legalese.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/page/file/1355126/download

If any investigations of Congress take place, they will HAVE to have the names of JTTF on duty and names of those who their direct lines of intel communication. We know who SAY they didn't get the FBI's intel. Now we need to know names of who had that intel and did not pass it on, or if they did, who of local LE are lying.

[niyad]

12. Thank you, Sen. Amy K!

[Greybnk48]

14. She's tough as nails, no B.S. questioner.

I love it!

[ProudMNDemocrat]

15. I am PROUD to know Amy and have her as my Senator.

She is needed in the Senate. That is for sure.

[Jay25]

17. That she is. One of the ones that truly cares.

[CTyankee]

22. IIRC, she's a Yalie. Went there as undergrad so she was probably in a class that was somewhat

used to the idea of an all male undergraduate class. I'm old enough to remember those days and the first few women who were in classes at the all male Ivies had some grouchy fellow students...

[BobTheSubgenius]

18. Go Amy!!!!

Rip 'em to bits!

[Oldem]

19. A sterling example of the right way to do it.

When repug questioners have the floor, they sound tough and ask bs questions based on bs foundations. Sen. Klobuchar, AOC, and other Dem questioners like them, nail peoples' feet to the floor, based of fact.

[bucolic_frolic]

25. Dems were wise to recruit former prosecutors for Congressional candidates

They have the skillset and experience to interrogate.

[marieo1]

26. Right on, Amy Klobuchar

Amy Klobuchar is from Minnesota and she is the best.

[Pongo]

29. I watched that earlier.

She’s damn good.

[CottonBear]

54. Welcome to DU! NT

[Pongo]

61. Thank you! I only just discovered the My Posts tab.

I’ve been reading here for awhile, but of course never saw that because I wasn’t a member. So now I’m trying to catch up with any responses I missed.

[LAS14]

32. Who is she talking to? nt

[Initech]

35. Capitol Riot was an inside job! Pass it on!

[Pongo]

63. I do think for sure that it was an inside job, but that was not a riot.

That was a planned insurrection.

[llashram]

36. excellent

1/6 was a serious attempt to overthrow our government. If they had found Speaker Pelosi, she would have been toast. I think if they had found pence, they would NOT have killed him in spite of their shouts. No matter what trump had said. He was/is a white male with a mastery of lying. He would have first, with an experienced politicians' mastery of rhetoric, talked his way out of it. Second, they would have let him go.

AOC? Toast. And any other brown skinned female and/or recognizable member of the Democratic Party. They would have been toast. With the insurrectionist's killing them on live television.

Goodman was a true soldier who did his duty. Honorably.

All this "riot" bullshit by the media describing 1/6 is the attempted managing of this event. To keep our reputation as "the shining city on the hill" unsullied. I am so ashamed. These clowns shitting on the floor sullied things. Trashing, spitting, dishonoring what I fought for as the good our government does for all Americans. Malcolm Nance also speaks truth on a Meidas Touch video on home page. I think.

[llashram]

39. alway a possibility

they are a hateful segment of society with an extremely false and flawed morality/mentality. A large majority of them consider themselves Christan. So yeah they might have hung pence on the south lawn....on live television.

[NoMoreRepugs]

38. After listening to Ron Johnson R-WI I thought the crowd

was more like a sampling from a typical day at DisneyWorld. How much meth is he using???

[brewens]

40. We need a direct comparison of everything these guys are saying to the BLM protests.

Show what actions based on "intelligence" were taken for BLM versus the insurrection. Maybe guys running around with their hair on fire urging an overwhelming law enforcement presence for BLM based on a much lower threat? It's gonna stink to high heaven. They have no explanation for that. Word was given to let it happen and probably facilitate and we're going to find out how and by who.

[ancianita]

46. +1

[AllaN01Bear]

44. i get red in the face. neck veins bulging. teeth clenched , hands in fist,

"this was not a riot!!!!!!!!"

[bdamomma]

47. Senator Klobuchar

is great, really admire her. Chairwoman too.

[moondust]

48. "what Trump said"

~
Cohen has said Trump “doesn’t give orders. He speaks in code. And I understand that code.” That’s the way that Mafiosi speak to each other, to avoid trouble.
~
Popular culture shows how mobsters communicate in code when they are worried about being overheard by law enforcement, using indirect language to describe their intentions, so as to make it harder to pin responsibility on them.
~
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/02/28/how-trump-speaks-like-mob-boss/

[calimary]

49. GOOD. Get it on the record.

[Blue Owl]

50. I wanna see tRump's fat ass frying

[Kid Berwyn]

59. Get the accomplices within, too.

Conspirators from both the Senate and the House.

[Baitball Blogger]

60. People always forget about the co-conspirators.

They are not just enablers. They also keep hate alive.