Tue Feb 23, 2021, 01:43 PM
Stuart G (30,145 posts)
Please, Please, and Please..Don't Use Abbreviations That All Do Not know..Please...
..Yes, the abbreviations are easier to use, but some of them are very difficult to interpret. I often
need to look up many of them, and finding the meaning is often very hard. Don't assume we all know the meaning of the abbreviations, because many of us do not know the meaning. ...Consequently, the full meaning of a post is often lost. I respectfully request that we use full words unless everyone knows the meaning. For example: we all know the meaning of the G.O.P., but there are so many we do not know the meaning of. Thank You for reading this... ....Stuart G
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Stuart G | Feb 23 | OP |
unweird | Feb 23 | #1 | |
Towlie | Feb 23 | #76 | |
Ka-Dinh Oy | Feb 23 | #2 | |
hvn_nbr_2 | Feb 23 | #19 | |
Ka-Dinh Oy | Feb 23 | #45 | |
Paper Roses | Feb 23 | #50 | |
Scottie Mom | Feb 23 | #61 | |
Jeebo | Feb 23 | #3 | |
Pongo | Feb 23 | #4 | |
niyad | Feb 23 | #43 | |
Pongo | Feb 23 | #52 | |
calimary | Feb 23 | #67 | |
Pongo | Feb 23 | #68 | |
lunatica | Feb 23 | #5 | |
LAS14 | Feb 23 | #6 | |
PlanetBev | Feb 23 | #7 | |
IL Dem | Feb 23 | #8 | |
PatSeg | Feb 23 | #9 | |
lagomorph777 | Feb 23 | #31 | |
PatSeg | Feb 23 | #89 | |
Firestorm49 | Feb 23 | #10 | |
NCjack | Feb 23 | #11 | |
Lefta Dissenter | Feb 23 | #53 | |
phylny | Feb 23 | #57 | |
intheflow | Feb 23 | #12 | |
Paladin | Feb 23 | #71 | |
Major Nikon | Feb 23 | #13 | |
Kali | Feb 23 | #81 | |
MyMission | Feb 24 | #100 | |
Myrddin | Feb 24 | #103 | |
ecstatic | Feb 25 | #107 | |
lame54 | Feb 23 | #14 | |
speak easy | Feb 23 | #16 | |
Sneederbunk | Feb 23 | #21 | |
IronLionZion | Feb 23 | #70 | |
A HERETIC I AM | Feb 23 | #15 | |
Dagstead Bumwood | Feb 23 | #65 | |
ret5hd | Feb 23 | #17 | |
Totally Tunsie | Feb 23 | #36 | |
Hugin | Feb 23 | #18 | |
Stuart G | Feb 23 | #23 | |
ChazInAz | Feb 23 | #55 | |
CaptainTruth | Feb 23 | #64 | |
Timewas | Feb 23 | #20 | |
lillypaddle | Feb 23 | #22 | |
FakeNoose | Feb 23 | #24 | |
lillypaddle | Feb 23 | #84 | |
AwakeAtLast | Feb 23 | #49 | |
Montauk6 | Feb 23 | #25 | |
Stuart G | Feb 23 | #28 | |
ancianita | Feb 23 | #44 | |
ProfessorGAC | Feb 23 | #88 | |
Hugin | Feb 23 | #29 | |
Hugin | Feb 23 | #32 | |
hlthe2b | Feb 23 | #35 | |
Ron Obvious | Feb 23 | #42 | |
CaptainTruth | Feb 23 | #62 | |
Celerity | Feb 23 | #98 | |
niyad | Feb 23 | #66 | |
Ron Obvious | Feb 23 | #26 | |
piddyprints | Feb 23 | #30 | |
Ron Obvious | Feb 23 | #37 | |
lpbk2713 | Feb 23 | #72 | |
dhill926 | Feb 23 | #27 | |
Stuart G | Feb 23 | #38 | |
dhill926 | Feb 23 | #40 | |
ancianita | Feb 23 | #46 | |
piddyprints | Feb 23 | #33 | |
Hugin | Feb 23 | #34 | |
piddyprints | Feb 23 | #41 | |
ancianita | Feb 23 | #39 | |
mwooldri | Feb 23 | #47 | |
littlemissmartypants | Feb 23 | #93 | |
MyMission | Feb 24 | #104 | |
littlemissmartypants | Feb 24 | #106 | |
momta | Feb 23 | #48 | |
USALiberal | Feb 23 | #51 | |
KG | Feb 23 | #54 | |
Lefta Dissenter | Feb 23 | #56 | |
TNNurse | Feb 23 | #58 | |
KS Toronado | Feb 23 | #59 | |
Magoo48 | Feb 23 | #60 | |
PoindexterOglethorpe | Feb 23 | #63 | |
CaptainTruth | Feb 23 | #69 | |
judesedit | Feb 23 | #73 | |
Warpy | Feb 23 | #74 | |
PutGramaOnThePhone | Feb 23 | #78 | |
hurple | Feb 23 | #75 | |
ret5hd | Feb 23 | #77 | |
mahatmakanejeeves | Feb 23 | #79 | |
BadGimp | Feb 23 | #80 | |
PutGramaOnThePhone | Feb 23 | #82 | |
electric_blue68 | Feb 23 | #91 | |
Butterflylady | Feb 23 | #83 | |
barbtries | Feb 23 | #85 | |
PutGramaOnThePhone | Feb 23 | #86 | |
electric_blue68 | Feb 23 | #90 | |
barbtries | Feb 23 | #92 | |
electric_blue68 | Feb 23 | #95 | |
DFW | Feb 23 | #87 | |
littlemissmartypants | Feb 23 | #94 | |
mopinko | Feb 23 | #96 | |
marie999 | Feb 23 | #97 | |
MyMission | Feb 24 | #99 | |
PCIntern | Feb 24 | #101 | |
pnwmom | Feb 24 | #102 | |
JustABozoOnThisBus | Feb 24 | #105 | |
Chakaconcarne | Feb 25 | #108 | |
DFW | Feb 25 | #109 |
Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 01:45 PM
unweird (1,089 posts)
1. OK, I mean acknowledged and will attempt to comply
Ok?
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Response to unweird (Reply #1)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:26 PM
Towlie (4,575 posts)
76. Lots of recommendations, lots of supportive replies, but nothing will change.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 01:47 PM
Ka-Dinh Oy (11,006 posts)
2. I agree. I have had to give up on some posts because I have no clue what the abbreviations mean.
Response to Ka-Dinh Oy (Reply #2)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:30 PM
hvn_nbr_2 (6,198 posts)
19. If I have to work hard and play Sherlock Holmes to figure out what a post is about...
...then I conclude that the poster isn't even trying to communicate, so I don't read/listen/pay attention.
Also, if I have to watch a 50-minute video to find out what a post is even about, well, no. |
Response to hvn_nbr_2 (Reply #19)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:17 PM
Ka-Dinh Oy (11,006 posts)
45. My feelings also.
Response to Ka-Dinh Oy (Reply #45)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:27 PM
Paper Roses (6,858 posts)
50. Ditto! n/t
Response to Ka-Dinh Oy (Reply #2)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:44 PM
Scottie Mom (3,971 posts)
61. Same here.
Some of the old ones like LMAO or IMO...oK...but some of the new ones? No clue.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 01:48 PM
Jeebo (1,320 posts)
3. I feel the same way.
I rarely use abbreviations for just the reason you mention. If you're going to post your comments here at all, you're defeating your purpose if you use abbreviations that others might not understand, or that they're going to have to spend time scratching their heads trying to figure out. It's like posting your messages in code. I hate abbreviations.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 01:51 PM
Pongo (863 posts)
4. I appreciate this post. I'm not good with all the internet abbreviations.
Response to Pongo (Reply #4)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:14 PM
niyad (76,862 posts)
43. Welcome to our DU family.
Response to niyad (Reply #43)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:32 PM
Pongo (863 posts)
52. Thank you so much.
I’ve been reading this site for a long time. I need to go check out some of the different groups. I didn’t know there were so many.
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Response to Pongo (Reply #4)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:56 PM
calimary (62,120 posts)
67. Welcome to DU, Pongo!
Sometimes it’s like alphabet soup! I imagine being in the military would mean you’d have to deal with those initials at least once every five seconds or so.
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Response to calimary (Reply #67)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:00 PM
Pongo (863 posts)
68. I think my screen name may have military connotations but it actually has nothing to do with that.
I’ve never been in the military.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 01:51 PM
lunatica (51,942 posts)
5. Thanks! This needed to be said.
There is no limit on the number of characters allowed on DU posts.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 01:56 PM
LAS14 (11,588 posts)
6. Glad to know I'm not the only one who has to frequently ask what an abbreviation means. nt
Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 01:58 PM
PlanetBev (3,106 posts)
7. I have a problem with this, too.
I’m just not that good with abbreviations.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:00 PM
IL Dem (680 posts)
8. Agree wholeheartedly.
Thank you.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:04 PM
PatSeg (37,506 posts)
9. Thank you
There are quite a few acronyms that are pretty well known, like OMG or WTF, but I keep encountering ones where I haven't got a clue. Sometimes even Googling them doesn't help, as I think some people just abbreviate as they go, assuming others can read their mind.
I finally reached my limit and decided if people can't type out the actual words, I'm just going to move on to something else. I was spending more time trying to find out what they were attempting to say than it would have taken to type the words in the first place. We have language for a reason, it is how we communicate our thoughts and ideas with others. We all here fortunate enough to have sufficient education to be able to use that language effectively and clearly. And when we come to a site like Democratic Underground, it is not like we are sending chatty texts on our phone to our best friends, who probably know what we are trying to say. |
Response to PatSeg (Reply #9)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:55 PM
lagomorph777 (22,178 posts)
31. " some people just abbreviate as they go" - YES!
So often, I see abbreviations that seem to have popped out of somebody's head on the fly. I skip posts like that and move on.
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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #31)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 05:35 PM
PatSeg (37,506 posts)
89. Exactly!
Like several words pop in their head, but it is too much work to type all of them out. Or it is "TMW to type all of them out"!
Awhile back I posted something like this on Facebook and we actually had great fun with it. People made up some of the most absurd examples to make the point and we all guessed what they meant. Meanwhile, one of the people that it was actually directed at, completely agreed with the post, but never got the clue. She still does it as if she is a fifteen year old girl texting her BFF. I just don't respond. If "ikr" is the only comment you have, then why say anything at all. Click "like" and move on. I had a few really good English teachers when I was young and they would be appalled by the ridiculously abbreviated communications of the 21st century. |
Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:04 PM
Firestorm49 (2,708 posts)
10. I spend too much time looking up acronyms only to find out that it's a local issue. Who would know?
Those who used them, please, spell it out the first time, then use the acronyms. It's a big country with more acronyms than can be remembered. It may be routine for you, but it's not for many of the rest of us.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:11 PM
NCjack (8,346 posts)
11. Also, please give political party affiliation of politicians.
Response to NCjack (Reply #11)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:32 PM
Lefta Dissenter (6,396 posts)
53. YES! THIS! (n/t)
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Response to NCjack (Reply #11)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:40 PM
phylny (7,299 posts)
57. Yes!
Just because the poster knows who and where the person is from doesn't mean the rest of us do, especially during primary season and before an election. I can't stand "Warner ahead in polls." So yes: "Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) ahead is polls" is extremely helpful.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:18 PM
intheflow (26,072 posts)
12. UrbanDictionary.com is your friend.
95% of acronyms I don't understand are listed there. Considering we're either at or near a majority of internet users accessing the 'net via cell phones, the use of abbreviations is a blessing.
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Response to intheflow (Reply #12)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:04 PM
Paladin (23,002 posts)
71. Friend? UrbanDictionary.com is my FUCKBUDDY!
All on account of all the abbreviations I've had to look up in the last month or so. The OP has it right: make plain what groups you're talking about when you post. It's just good manners.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:18 PM
Major Nikon (35,364 posts)
13. WILCO
Response to Major Nikon (Reply #13)
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 12:42 AM
MyMission (718 posts)
100. What does that mean?
Seriously. Not one I know.
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Response to MyMission (Reply #100)
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 06:12 AM
Myrddin (275 posts)
103. I will comply
I Will comply
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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #13)
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 04:57 PM
ecstatic (28,541 posts)
107. lol. You got me there. And it wasn't an easy Google either
Considering the number of major companies with that name. But changing my search to "wilco meaning" did the trick.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:20 PM
lame54 (29,889 posts)
14. Who the hell is Stuart G and what does the G stand for?
Response to lame54 (Reply #14)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:24 PM
speak easy (3,440 posts)
16. I suspect a sock puppet
for HighFructosePronSyrup
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Response to lame54 (Reply #14)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:01 PM
IronLionZion (32,744 posts)
70. G can stand for Government. Stuart could be a G man
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:22 PM
A HERETIC I AM (21,812 posts)
15. If the VP is such a VIP, maybe we should keep the PC on the QT.....
or it might get out to the VC and he could become an MIA and we could all end up on KP.
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Response to A HERETIC I AM (Reply #15)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:53 PM
Dagstead Bumwood (1,490 posts)
65. And if you do...
And if you dooooooooooo....
![]() This is the DU member formerly known as Dagstead Bumwood.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:25 PM
ret5hd (16,303 posts)
17. TBH IDK WTH...
you’re going on about.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:28 PM
Hugin (28,061 posts)
18. I consistently try to be sensitive to this issue, Stuart.
Spelling unusual or custom abbreviations/acronyms out somewhere in the post.
I agree it is frustrating and sometimes in general discourse abbreviations/acronyms may have multiple meanings. ![]() |
Response to Hugin (Reply #18)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:37 PM
Stuart G (30,145 posts)
23. Thank You. I appreciate your post. If this were not a problem, I would not have posted it.
This is not a joke. Please look at the number of people that agree with this problem. We
should try to keep our messages clear, simple and easy to read. Thanks to all who have read this post and agree that this is a problem for many of us.... ![]() |
Response to Stuart G (Reply #23)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:37 PM
ChazInAz (1,749 posts)
55. I concur.
Incidentally, I only recently learned that FTW no longer means what it did in my Hippie days.
Makes a real difference in my understanding of a title like "AOC FTW"! |
Response to ChazInAz (Reply #55)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:50 PM
CaptainTruth (3,384 posts)
64. "When I was a kid" FTW meant F**k The World
Every time I see it that's still my first thought.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:32 PM
Timewas (1,100 posts)
20. Well
If there is an abbreviation I don't even try, just don't read the post, waste of time.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:36 PM
lillypaddle (8,568 posts)
22. I've posted this before
but it warrants posting again.
Use the full name/title the first time, and then use the abbreviation thereafter. For example: Planned Parenthood of Central Okla. (PPCO) just opened a new clinic in Edmond. PPCO hopes to open several more clinic locations in the near future. |
Response to lillypaddle (Reply #22)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:40 PM
FakeNoose (17,747 posts)
24. Exactly correct
The entire name must be spelled out completely on the first usage. Subsequent references may be abbreviated for brevity's sake.
Thanks Lilypaddle! ![]() ![]() |
Response to FakeNoose (Reply #24)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:45 PM
lillypaddle (8,568 posts)
84. My pleasure
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Response to lillypaddle (Reply #22)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:26 PM
AwakeAtLast (13,585 posts)
49. +1,000!
Louder for the folks in the back!
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:45 PM
Montauk6 (5,589 posts)
25. ACRONYMS, sheesh...
... I'm still trying to figure out terms like "gaslighting" and "virtue signalling."
Christ, I'm old.... |
Response to Montauk6 (Reply #25)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:52 PM
Stuart G (30,145 posts)
28. You are not the only one...who is "mature." I really do not like the "O" word.
....I use ..."mature" when I can... Some of the modern terms leave me wondering for awhile..Then
I go on and read something else that I don't know, and then I wonder some more. It really never stops, and the English language is alive and growing and new words and abbreviations appear all the time....... ![]() |
Response to Stuart G (Reply #28)
ancianita This message was self-deleted by its author.
Response to Stuart G (Reply #28)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 05:33 PM
ProfessorGAC (47,483 posts)
88. I Don't Know, Stuart
I'm 64, but whether I'm mature is debatable!
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Response to Montauk6 (Reply #25)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:52 PM
Hugin (28,061 posts)
29. I found a great graphic on 'gaslighting' posted by a friend.
It really lays it out there.
I need to see if I can find it somewhere so I can re-post it. 'virtue signaling' is generally merely a pejorative way of criticizing those who choose to do the correct thing like wearing a damn mask during a pandemic. |
Response to Hugin (Reply #29)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:59 PM
Hugin (28,061 posts)
32. gaslighting in a nutshell.
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Response to Montauk6 (Reply #25)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:14 PM
Ron Obvious (5,777 posts)
42. Gaslighting comes from the 1943 movie Gaslight with Ingrid Bergman
Great movie in any case.
I think "Virtue Signalling" is fairly self-explanatory: "look at me having the correct opinions". It's usually applied to the side we disagree with, especially if we think they're not sincere. |
Response to Ron Obvious (Reply #42)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:46 PM
CaptainTruth (3,384 posts)
62. I must say "virtue signaling" makes no sense to me.
Signaling is used in many ways, consider a train crossing. When a train is near lights flash & bells ring to warn drivers of the approaching train. We could call that "train signaling."
I hear "virtue signaling" & I imagine a person with virtue walking down the sidewalk with lights flashing & bells ringing to warn other pedestrians so they don't end up injured or even possibly killed in a horrific collision with a... a... virtuous person? ![]() ![]() |
Response to CaptainTruth (Reply #62)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 08:03 PM
Celerity (18,956 posts)
98. Virtue signalling is is when you make a statement designed to make you look acceptable to the
group you are engaging with, even if you do not really believe it or you have no practical input into doing something about it. It can be a form of gaslighting people as well. You erect a fake sense of moral superiority or you are trying to enforce groupthink at a superficial level to gain plaudits from the group.
A cousin of virtual signalling is humblebrag. ![]() |
Response to Montauk6 (Reply #25)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:54 PM
niyad (76,862 posts)
66. If you saw the movie "Gaslight" with Ingrid Bergman and Charles Boyer, it was the prime
Example.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:51 PM
Ron Obvious (5,777 posts)
26. Agreed. And no text speak, either.
No "r u" for "are you" etc, please! Blech!
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Response to Ron Obvious (Reply #26)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:54 PM
piddyprints (13,524 posts)
30. This.
![]() I don't even use text speak in text messages. It's not that difficult to type out complete words. |
Response to piddyprints (Reply #30)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:07 PM
Ron Obvious (5,777 posts)
37. I also use correct punctuation in texts too.
I've been known to use semi-colons as well, and I'm quite smug about it.
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Response to Ron Obvious (Reply #37)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:05 PM
lpbk2713 (39,668 posts)
72. Some people might disagree with the way I use elipsis ...
but I use it anyway. |
Response to dhill926 (Reply #27)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:07 PM
Stuart G (30,145 posts)
38. ...ikr....means, "I Know Right"..perhaps you do.., but that is a matter of opinion.
Response to Stuart G (Reply #38)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:09 PM
dhill926 (12,184 posts)
40. just a joke...
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Response to Stuart G (Reply #38)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:18 PM
ancianita (22,652 posts)
46. "I know, right?" is an expression similar to "I feel you." Both draw from Black usage. IKR is
a sloppy acronym of the first.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:00 PM
piddyprints (13,524 posts)
33. A friend of mine had to make a phone call to someone else.
He was going to tell me how it went. When I sent him a text asking if he'd called yet, he replied "LM."
My head started trying to decipher it. Hmmm ... Love Mom? Nope. Lost mask? Nah. Light marmalade? Can't be. Finally, I called about something else and told him I had no idea what his message meant. "Left message" was his reply. Sure, I should have know that exactly how? And now you know! If someone texts LM to you, they left a message to someone. Well, unless it means something else as well. ![]() |
Response to piddyprints (Reply #33)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:03 PM
Hugin (28,061 posts)
34. Large Melon?
Laughing Mime?
Left Most? ![]() |
Response to Hugin (Reply #34)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:12 PM
piddyprints (13,524 posts)
41. Those too.
There were several possibilities.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:08 PM
ancianita (22,652 posts)
39. Major Manuals of Usage require a full first reference before any acronym is used after.
Joint Terrorism Task Force for full first reference, then JTTF is okay thereafter.
That rule can easily apply to all first comments by posters. |
Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:23 PM
mwooldri (9,628 posts)
47. Does DU have an acronym dictionary?
Example IOKIYAR - It's OK If You're A Republican - is commonly used here. Are there others?
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Response to mwooldri (Reply #47)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 06:28 PM
littlemissmartypants (14,733 posts)
93. No, but wouldn't it be nice if someone started one.
How about in the Community Help group
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1256 or Languages and Linguistics https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1165 ... Or both. |
Response to littlemissmartypants (Reply #93)
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 09:52 AM
MyMission (718 posts)
104. I thought so too
See my post #99. I was probably typing it while yours came in so I didn't see it.
I like your ideas too. I thought it could be in announcements because this request came from the top. Announce what acronyms are considered common, since the boss said we shouldn't use ones people don't know...how are some supposed to know what others may or may not know? Announce them. Community help would be a good place to learn this too, and the language and linguistics could be more of an informative thread. And it would turn out to be ongoing and evolving. I love what I learn here on DU, but for newbies and oldsters, announcing the acronyms would be helpful. I don't really want to look up acronyms when I'm reading a post. If anyone posts confusing gibberish letters (as some have done on this thread) we can reply " please see announcements for which acronyms are considered common." Sometimes that can be revised as needed. I didn't put DOJ on my list, but that's a common one, in my opinion (IMO). I understand some are having fun with this thread, posting acronyms as replies, while most agree with Stuart and are more serious about it. Seems you and I are trying to figure out how to address this problem. What do you think? |
Response to MyMission (Reply #104)
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 12:14 PM
littlemissmartypants (14,733 posts)
106. I've been trying to address it since I got here.
I would love to think we could fix it. I actually think Community Help would be the most appropriate place to post it with Language and Linguistics as a back up. Announcements is more appropriate for a "one off" kind of post so I don't think that would be the best place for such a running and updating post for acronyms and other abbreviations.
When I run across a post full of acronyms how I proceed depends on how interested I am in the post. I often move on to another post. I may use the urban dictionary if I am interested in learning more. I also have put cryptic and unintelligible posters on full ignore and trashed many threads that were just too incoherent to be worth the time. DU is full of post redundancy. Duplicate posts run rampant so the odds are good if you don't get it in the first post you will in the second or third. Few posters check for duplicate content before posting and the only place this is considered a mistake is in Late Breaking News. I admire StuartG's persistence. This isn't his first post on this topic. I don't see anything changing though. It is nice to dream. Thank you for your reply, MyMission. ❤ miss pants |
Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:25 PM
momta (3,265 posts)
48. One of my favorite stories on this...
And it might be apocryphal, but it was about someone who sent a message to their mom that a family friend had died. Mom replied "I'm so sorry, lol." Person asked mom why on earth she texted "lol" on a message like that. Turns out mom thought it meant "lots of love".
Abbreviations can be difficult. |
Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:28 PM
USALiberal (7,674 posts)
51. Just google them, quick solution! Nt
Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:39 PM
Lefta Dissenter (6,396 posts)
56. For the longest time
For the longest time I thought "FTW" meant "fuck the world." I finally learned that it was actually a good thing - "for the win!"
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:41 PM
TNNurse (5,210 posts)
58. Excellent point
As a retired healthcare person, I am aware that there are acronyms and abbreviations that are redundant and confusing.
AMA--American Medical Association AMA--Against Medical Advice These two amused me. I am sure there are many examples that can be used. Also some of us are older than others of you, be kind. |
Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:42 PM
KS Toronado (2,681 posts)
59. Your G.O.P. abbreviation should be spelled Q.O.P. or G.Q.P.
In My Humble Opinion.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:44 PM
Magoo48 (1,982 posts)
60. Yes, yes, and yes please!.
I often lose the plot entirely when I stumble over an alphabet soup of mysterious Capital letters.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:48 PM
PoindexterOglethorpe (18,955 posts)
63. I'm with you.
Perhaps because I'm not accessing DU on a phone or small tablet, and I have a full sized keyboard under my fingers, I find it's a lot faster to type out a full word rather than try to remember the stupid abbreviation.
Yes, there are a lot of common abbreviations, but when you are referring to something more local or out of the mainstream, please spell it out in full at your first mention. There's been a lot of times when I've tried to find the meaning of an abbreviation on line, and nothing sensible or relevant comes up Oh, and perhaps even if you are posting in the thread for a specific state, you might want to give us a clue where you are, especially if talking about something like the weather. Keep in mind that we are not all watching the same news feed as you are, so give us a clue what you are responding to. |
Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:00 PM
CaptainTruth (3,384 posts)
69. Agreed! Atticus posted about this not long ago.
Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:07 PM
judesedit (2,712 posts)
73. NP. Just joking. No problem.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:17 PM
Warpy (99,841 posts)
74. Use Le Google
or any of the more private search engines. It only takes a second. It's what I do.
Urban Dictionary is also useful, although you might not want to do it at work. Employers frown on random hysterical laughter, work isn't supposed to be fun. |
Response to Warpy (Reply #74)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:34 PM
PutGramaOnThePhone (204 posts)
78. Right, I don't think it's really that hard, or distracting to do
Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:23 PM
hurple (982 posts)
75. And while we're airing grievances...
Please add some context to your posts!
I can't count how many posts make me ask WTF or say IDKWTHTTA*. heh. * I don't know what the hell they're talking about |
Response to hurple (Reply #75)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:30 PM
ret5hd (16,303 posts)
77. Oh man...I thought "feats of strength"...
came after “airing of grievances”.
Dammit. |
Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:36 PM
mahatmakanejeeves (35,740 posts)
79. TL; DR. JK. NT
Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:43 PM
PutGramaOnThePhone (204 posts)
82. Come on old ....
folks (me included), bend your brains a bit and learn some abbreviations
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Response to PutGramaOnThePhone (Reply #82)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 06:16 PM
electric_blue68 (2,995 posts)
91. Guess I was lucky that on the music site I frequent...
from back in the early '00's I picked up most of the ones I know because there is a wide age range of fans that post.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:44 PM
Butterflylady (2,299 posts)
83. Thanks
I always feel like a dumb a** because I need help.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:45 PM
barbtries (24,807 posts)
85. The example you gave is so common,
but others are not so common. here's a great resource:
https://www.acronymfinder.com/ if that doesn't work, just ask. and don't wait to ask the way i did. I was probably on DU for a year before finally discovering that IOKIYAR means "It's Okay If You're A Republican" I don't see people suddenly writing out Republican or grand old party. A lot of people are posting from a phone. I'm likely to use any appropriate, common acronym available before laboriously pecking it onto my phone. Just saying. If you don't know just ask,DUers (the people of Democratic Underground) are as a rule happy to help. |
Response to barbtries (Reply #85)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:52 PM
PutGramaOnThePhone (204 posts)
86. For sure!
My experience in reading here at DU, has been that there is often someone asking, and I’ve only seen polite, respectful, and helpful replies*
* I have only been around for about 5 years, and certainly don’t get to all the corners and crannies of DU |
Response to barbtries (Reply #85)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 05:59 PM
electric_blue68 (2,995 posts)
90. Thanks! There's only one I've kept running into that I didn't know, and...
... I just looked it up, and now I know. 👍 😁
I just saw the other one I didn't know, looked it up - now I know that one, too. Thx! |
Response to electric_blue68 (Reply #90)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 06:26 PM
barbtries (24,807 posts)
92. you're welcome!
the Urban dictionary is good for more recent acronyms too, but i don't know the URL (universal resource locator, I think)
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Response to barbtries (Reply #92)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 06:31 PM
electric_blue68 (2,995 posts)
95. I'd forgotten about but knew of The Urban Dictionary 👍
Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 05:00 PM
DFW (42,290 posts)
87. If anyone tells you they are going to play a funny song for you
And the title is „Harvey and Sheila,“ cover your ears, fast.
For anyone who has no idea what I‘m talking about, it mocks America‘s penchant for using abbreviations all the time, and this song is over 50 years old! By the way, if you find the excessive use of abbreviations bothersome, don‘t EVER visit Germany or France! |
Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 06:31 PM
littlemissmartypants (14,733 posts)
94. Dear Stuart G, I can't believe that you are still beating this dead horse. Good luck. ❤ pants
Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 07:39 PM
mopinko (59,305 posts)
96. the language is evolving
as it does.
try to keep up. it wont kill you to learn new things. |
Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 07:47 PM
marie999 (1,445 posts)
97. I don't use abbreviations. I even write "okay".
Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 12:40 AM
MyMission (718 posts)
99. Kicked and recommended (K & R) with comments
It took me a while to figure that one out.
Suggestion: could we have a common abbreviation list, perhaps in the announcements? Many here know many abbreviations, others only know some "common" ones. I'm not one to use abbreviations much, I tend to spell things out. Some folks do us them a lot and may not realize which ones are common or well known here. The ones I know that come to mind are the following. FYI, FWIW, IMO, POS, FOS, SOL, WTF, K+R, GOPQ or GQP, LoL, ROFL, (I no longer use gop) There are probably other common ones I'm not thinking of, and others I don't use that I figure out in context; but many times I don't know what other abbreviations mean. I appreciate this topic. Thanks. |
Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 12:46 AM
PCIntern (21,385 posts)
101. Well, first you have to TOTT
And GTFOOMT
B4 I4Q Ru/18 qt (pi)? |
Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 01:14 AM
pnwmom (104,533 posts)
102. But it's super easy to look any up. Just google TTYL, for example, and see what you get. n/t
Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 12:12 PM
JustABozoOnThisBus (20,927 posts)
105. I can try to explain the meaning of "nt":
Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 05:08 PM
Chakaconcarne (1,383 posts)
108. They're kind of here to stay....
We've all had to learn them at some point... just takes time.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 05:22 PM
DFW (42,290 posts)