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Does this explain Senator Manchin? (Original Post) Popcorn 51 Feb 2021 OP
Could be. Stinky The Clown Feb 2021 #1
Here's more info about the lovely daughter with a $19 MILLION salary groundloop Feb 2021 #24
From the NY Times - Popcorn 51 Feb 2021 #31
Might be an 'excuse' in his 'mind.' elleng Feb 2021 #2
Op there it is kimbutgar Feb 2021 #3
Certainly plausible AKwannabe Feb 2021 #4
Aahhh there it is -- spite and revenge for his daughter being truthfully called out for her ancianita Feb 2021 #5
Manchin is probably the last remaining Dixiecrat. tiredtoo Feb 2021 #6
Or replace him. Or get more Dem Senators wnylib Feb 2021 #9
The last option is probably the most realistic one. Salviati Feb 2021 #12
DC and Puerto Rico first up. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2021 #15
Haha Bucky Feb 2021 #27
land mass vs population vs politics. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2021 #33
Texas is too big. Should be wnylib Feb 2021 #50
Can't be done until we have emough wnylib Feb 2021 #51
Will not be replaced in WVA. It's Manchin or no one on the Dem side. Tommymac Feb 2021 #47
No one voting for Joe Manchin gives a flying **** about Neera Tanden (n/m) BradAllison Feb 2021 #16
Totally forgot about that link. Brush Bunny Feb 2021 #7
I don't know if that's the reason or not MustLoveBeagles Feb 2021 #8
Manchin's daughter in the middle of "epi-pen price gouging". Oh my! oasis Feb 2021 #10
So depressing how we have such a vile and corrupt country. Pepsidog Feb 2021 #11
Distressing. live love laugh Feb 2021 #19
Probably didn't help her nomination nt Azathoth Feb 2021 #13
Interesting relayerbob Feb 2021 #14
Of course dalton99a Feb 2021 #17
Bingo...............you nailed it............ turbinetree Feb 2021 #18
ditto Bucky Feb 2021 #28
I am still relying on 15 yr old epipens cuz of him...................................... alittlelark Feb 2021 #20
Do you think they still work? Because I have a couple where the color has Maraya1969 Feb 2021 #46
Reading her bio in that article is sickening. One of many reasons we can't have nice things. KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2021 #21
Occams Razor says Nope! it's about peacocking for swing voters zaj Feb 2021 #22
I don't see Occam's Razor here Bucky Feb 2021 #25
VERY nice way to put that,zaj! calimary Feb 2021 #29
I wonder if and when he will have cartoon on it turbinetree Feb 2021 #30
What is odd about Manchin objecting to Neera Tanden JonLP24 Feb 2021 #35
I don't agree that progressives don't want her. Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #45
Maybe if this was publicized more right now he would want to... LiberalFighter Feb 2021 #23
They're all so gross. Grifting ass family. Fuck 'em. And feel free to delete this. Lots Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2021 #26
Maybe Joe Biden could ask Joe Manchin....... KS Toronado Feb 2021 #32
+1 dalton99a Feb 2021 #37
Joe wouldn't do that. Merrick would. Marcuse Feb 2021 #41
Bingo #2 Trust_Reality Feb 2021 #34
To be fair to him the glass is half-full. Tommymac Feb 2021 #48
republican spy & sympathizer . monkeyman1 Feb 2021 #36
Rachel needs to do another segment on this LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2021 #38
Manchen should recuse himself LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2021 #39
How would his recusal lead to getting the 50 votes for confirmation? MichMan Feb 2021 #40
Tanden loses 49-50. She needs Manchin's vote. Marcuse Feb 2021 #42
It explains (does not excuse) his position on Tanden. lagomorph777 Feb 2021 #43
Sounds like a conflict of interest to me Blue Owl Feb 2021 #44
How do I phrase this without breaking the rule about criticizing a Democrat? BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #49

AKwannabe

(5,641 posts)
4. Certainly plausible
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 11:36 PM
Feb 2021

Didn’t know this info.

I am allergic to bees and need an epi as a stand by but can’t afford...

ancianita

(36,009 posts)
5. Aahhh there it is -- spite and revenge for his daughter being truthfully called out for her
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 11:38 PM
Feb 2021

dishonesty.

Thank you for refreshing our memory; this explains at least some of his motivation for manipulating frustration within this party.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
6. Manchin is probably the last remaining Dixiecrat.
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 11:43 PM
Feb 2021

We have to put up with him lest he switch parties and really screw us.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
12. The last option is probably the most realistic one.
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 11:52 PM
Feb 2021

It should be the one we focus on. Let all of our frustrations with Manchin be funneled into getting more Democrats elected.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,107 posts)
15. DC and Puerto Rico first up.
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 12:06 AM
Feb 2021

We should go for North Puerto Rico and South Puerto Rico.

(Take that Dakota and Carolina)

wnylib

(21,417 posts)
51. Can't be done until we have emough
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 08:23 AM
Feb 2021

Dems in Congress to accept them as states. But definitely a goal to seek.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
47. Will not be replaced in WVA. It's Manchin or no one on the Dem side.
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 11:00 PM
Feb 2021

Just how it is there.

The only viable solution is to elect more centrist or center/left Democratic Senators in other States.

oasis

(49,365 posts)
10. Manchin's daughter in the middle of "epi-pen price gouging". Oh my!
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 11:48 PM
Feb 2021

Joe M. should be doing all he can to make up with those less fortunate.

Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
46. Do you think they still work? Because I have a couple where the color has
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 12:15 PM
Feb 2021

changed, (on the side there is a slit for you to see the color) I think it doesn't mean anything and I have kept them in case of an emergency.

I have never needed an epipen. The allergist freaked me out when he insisted I get one and then every so often the nurse would check it and tell me I had to get another one because it was out of date. I personally think that was bullshit. But having one around seems like a good idea since I already have it.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
21. Reading her bio in that article is sickening. One of many reasons we can't have nice things.
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 12:24 AM
Feb 2021

Her past behavior doesn't speak well for Senator Manchin's family values unless she just fell afar from the tree.

I would question her privileged influence on his decisions......

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
22. Occams Razor says Nope! it's about peacocking for swing voters
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 12:25 AM
Feb 2021

There will only be a handful of moments right now that Joe and Kyrsten can stand up against show their moderate cred. And Neera is the easiest moment so far.

Bucky

(53,984 posts)
25. I don't see Occam's Razor here
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 12:50 AM
Feb 2021

How is "peacocking" (I love this phrase, btw) over a future election four years away over a single cabinet position that no one will remember a sleeker, simpler explanation than politically avenging his daughter's reputation?

If anything, this is hitting two birds with one stone.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
29. VERY nice way to put that,zaj!
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 12:54 AM
Feb 2021

Yep! Exactly.

"...it's about peacocking for swing voters."

"Peacocking"!!! REALLY lends a mental picture to it. You can just visualize it - and it's EXACTLY what these jerks are doing. I LOVE it!

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
35. What is odd about Manchin objecting to Neera Tanden
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 01:33 AM
Feb 2021

Is if there is one thing progressives, Manchin, and Republicans agree on it is no to Neera Tanden.

I would oppose Tanden for different reasons such as this.




From what I understand Sanders had long conversations with Tanden so she probably addressed many of his concerns including in the confirmation hearing.

I do find it odd Manchin voted for Kavanaugh, Barr, and Jeff Sessions but doesn't want Tanden.

Progressives call out Joe Manchin for “double standard”: He backed “openly racist” Jeff Sessions

House Democrats grew increasingly frustrated with Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.V., this week as he began to emerge as a key roadblock to some of President Joe Biden's Cabinet appointments and stimulus negotiations.

The centrist Democrat has wielded a disproportionate amount of power in the evenly divided Senate during Biden's early days in office, siding with Republicans in certain confirmation battles and legislative issues. Manchin's spokesman told NBC News on Monday that he is undecided on whether to back the confirmation of Rep. Deb Haaland, D-N.M., who would become the first Native American to head the Interior Department. Manchin, who chairs the Senate Energy Committee, previously told E&E News that Haaland "has a little bid different agenda than us" and pushed back on her plan to enact Biden's proposed ban on fracking on public lands.

The latest comments drew a rebuke from Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who noted that Manchin was the only Democrat to support Donald Trump's original attorney general, Jeff Sessions.

"Jeff Sessions was so openly racist that even Reagan couldn't appoint him," she tweeted. "Manchin voted to confirm him. Sessions then targeted immigrant children for wide-scale human rights abuses w/ family separation. Yet the 1st Native woman to be Cabinet Sec is where Manchin finds unease?"

https://www.salon.com/2021/02/23/progressives-call-out-joe-manchins-double-standard-he-backed-openly-racist-jeff-sessions/

Turin_C3PO

(13,941 posts)
45. I don't agree that progressives don't want her.
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 12:10 PM
Feb 2021

Some for sure, but most progressives are fine with her. Take a poll on this site and you’ll see.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
26. They're all so gross. Grifting ass family. Fuck 'em. And feel free to delete this. Lots
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 12:51 AM
Feb 2021

and lots of people would've been badly hurt if she'd gotten away with it.

KS Toronado

(17,178 posts)
32. Maybe Joe Biden could ask Joe Manchin.......
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 01:19 AM
Feb 2021

If he would like the DOJ to look into his daughter's price gouging?

Trust_Reality

(1,722 posts)
34. Bingo #2
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 01:29 AM
Feb 2021

He does not seem to have Democratic values. He must be loving the position he is in right now, needed by the Dems. I wonder how much he is trying to squeeze out of them.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
48. To be fair to him the glass is half-full.
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 11:04 PM
Feb 2021

He votes with the Dem's a little over 50% of the time.

I'd rather have that then have a Qthug who would vote with us 0% of the time.

Manchin can be played - President Joe knows him well and IO believe he can and will keep him under enough control on the legislation that REALLY matters.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
43. It explains (does not excuse) his position on Tanden.
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 11:52 AM
Feb 2021

We need other explanations for many of his other positions...

BobTheSubgenius

(11,562 posts)
49. How do I phrase this without breaking the rule about criticizing a Democrat?
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 11:13 PM
Feb 2021

Well, I can start by suggesting that her apparent greed and gouging are not what we'd hope for in the best traditions of the party.

Perhaps she is a product of upbringing? That's possible, but obviously, I don't know. I will say that I'm not overwhelmingly enthusiastic about their work up to now.

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