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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy are some Senators against a minimum wage increase in the Covid bill,
When they've had 4 since 2005 , and the minimum wage hasn't been raised for 14 years. It raises people out of poverty, increases spending, increases tax revenues, lowers the gap between the rich and the poor which has always helped the economy. They've given themselves raises, so what's their excuse for these lower wage earners.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,783 posts)Go figure.
BlueNProud
(1,048 posts)rampartc
(5,403 posts)and like nothing better than starving workers fighting each other for crumbs.
OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)his last election ? His attitude suggests not a lot.
XanaDUer2
(10,643 posts)vote for them? Also, they got theirs. Screw the poor is America's republican mantra
Nexus2
(1,261 posts)"The poor in other countries vote like they're poor, the poor in America vote like they're temporarily down on the luck millionaires."
XanaDUer2
(10,643 posts)we're all just one invention away from millionaire status
gab13by13
(21,304 posts)global1
(25,241 posts)The Repug Senators don't want the Dems to get the credit for doing. It would make the Dems look so good and they'd garner more support from the American People and win more seats in the House and Senate. The Repugs can't have that happen.
With respect to Manchin - I don't know what his problem is. If I was the Dem Trump - I'd primary him. Need to get one of us in his seat.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)The noise now is over a Democratic senator, progressive moderate conservative/sometimes liberal Joe Manchin. He does support a MW increase. In 2014 he also voted for one that was defeated.
This time he believes a jump to $15 wouldn't work right for his relatively poor/low-production state. He does believe that -- for his state -- $11/hour over the next 3 years would produce more real benefit for employees than $15 phased in over 5 would.
It's not at all simple, but he has numbers to back his position. The $15-ers and the $0ers also provide numbers. Notably, WV's voters reliably elect Republican governors and Republicans to control legislature, so $11 would be a very large increase over WV's current minimum.
Whatever, the FEDERAL minimum wage sets a national MINIMUM. For most employees anyway. All states can increase it to suit the needs of their people, and of course as their voters choose. Many always have, and new increases of various sizes take effect in half the states this year. Not in red WV, though.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)States aren't good proxies for cost of living. There is a roughly two to one difference between Syracuse and New York City or between Bakersfield and San Francisco.
National minimum wage should be set for the small city cost of living, which tends to be 15 to 25% less than large metro suburban and 50 to 100% less than large urban center.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Klaralven
(7,510 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)income for employees living in a lot of places. Not that I'm opposed to a $15 national minimum, but there are usually a number of paths to the same goal, which all have different combinations of costs and benefits.
My minimum wage goal is that all full-time (?29+ hours/wk?) jobs should pay a genuine living wage. Not $15, but a living wage in their locale.
We're an extremely wealthy nation. Our goal is restoration of general, widespread wellbeing and regrowth of the middle classes by all workers sharing in the prosperity they help create. By various much needed changes.
msongs
(67,395 posts)area51
(11,906 posts)rickford66
(5,523 posts)Should it be lowered instead ? How low would satisfy them ? It was zero for many people when America was great. The protests against inequality are minor compared to a civil war. The wealthy don't understand the economics because they don't want to.
Bettie
(16,089 posts)as they have plenty of money and assume that the poor can just 'tighten their belts' and 'budget better'.
Most of the ones we're talking about here have never had to stretch those last couple of dollars until the next paycheck. Heck, most of them have never had to do their own grocery shopping.
They have certainly never worked a minimum wage job as their only source of income.
Hotler
(11,416 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,278 posts)their employees a liveable wage. The example is always of the teenager working before/after school at the local small business and why should some kid get $15/hr. Nevermind that kid's income might just be crucial to the family's household.