Do you support or oppose cancelling Neera Tanden for sending mean tweets?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

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[rampartc]

1. i generally oppose uncivil tweets

but no repub has standing to hold this against her.

[Sympthsical]

2. It goes a lot further than "mean tweets"

That description is very disingenuous. I keep seeing it categorized as that. It's not. At least, it's not only that.

Tanden was a highly partisan political operator for a long, long time. She threw a lot of elbows and punches over the years. Sometimes literally. And with that abrasive style, she didn't exactly make a whole lot of friends. She isn't well-liked in Washington because of this history. Everyone keeps talking about, "Oh, she just goes after Republicans so hard! I love her!"

Yeah, she also went after the Left hard. There's a reason her and Sanders had their little conversation at the beginning of the committee hearing. She attacked the Left with as much gusto as the Right.

With that being said, Sanders graciously let it go. I don't like her due to that history, but if he can let it go, then so can I. She's Biden's pick, and I think he gets the courtesy of having his initial picks put through. His administration deserves a roaring start.

But there was always going to be tension and turmoil over her nomination due to that history. When I heard she was nominated, I was interested to see how that would go. It felt like an odd choice. In an office that requires a degree of diplomacy and bipartisanship, why nominate this highly partisan person who has burned political bridges in the past? Didn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

And here we are. If she goes through, she goes through. If not, I'd like to see someone like Shalanda Young put forward.

Either way, she's reaping a bit of what she's sewn here. It was predictable. And if anyone is surprised, then they don't know the history. It isn't just, "She tweeted mean things about Republicans." No, the history is much, much deeper.

[still_one]

6. That is the problem though. Most of those opposing her nomination are using the "excuse" that

it is because of her "mean tweets", not because of substantive issues on policy, despite the fact that many of those same people had no problems voting for other people in the past who made very caustic comments about people.

An interesting observation regarding Manchin who fits that mold is wondering if his motivation is because she was critical of Manchin's daughter's position of price gouging epipen, and not so much because of "mean tweets"

[Sympthsical]

7. Oh, 100% agreed

It's disingenuous and facile. Because so many conservatives have gotten in trouble over tweets, they think they're being clever by citing it as the reason. Every time I see, "It's about the tweets!" I roll my eyes.

I saw the Manchin daughter thing, and I'm super curious about that, too. I mean, there's no way you can dismiss that as a motivation out of hand. But that goes back to what I said. You criticize a senator's daughter, and then you need that senator's vote? Not politically shrewd.

Even though she was entirely in the right to criticize his daughter. What an amoral mess she turned out to be.

[still_one]

9. Yes

[brooklynite]

3. What is the value of holding a vote that Biden will lose?

[still_one]

5. For someone that is critical of this poll, I find it interesting that you decided to vote on it

[still_one]

4. I think the wording is somewhat confusing in this poll

Wouldn't it just be simpler to say "Do you support the nomination of Neera Tanden"

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[Kaleva]

8. What I think will have no impact on the outcome so I don't think much about it.

I thought the poll question was interesting, even though I don't have an opinion either way, so I responded.

[still_one]

10. Really? You don't think this DU poll will have any influence on those in the Senate?

[sanatanadharma]

11. I support calling out GOPQ cancel culture

Regardless of political feelings and uni-partisan obtuseness, the Biden administration pick is being cancelled.

Original Americans, poor, black, Mexican, female, LBGTQ, (more) human beings continue to be cancelled by the always wrong right; the morally-malignant and ethically-empty conservatives have cancelled the commonwealth.

[dsc]

12. If I thought this might be an actual rule going forward that would apply to all people

then I would be on board, but frankly I don't think that will be the case. I think it will be Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood all over again. Both of them had to withdraw nominations for AG over having employed undocumented workers and in Baird's case not having paid taxes on said workers. Now, Baird in particular was hard to defend on this. It was illegal for her to employ the people at the time, she didn't pay taxes on the employees she was required to pay and she was wealthy enough to hire a PhD in child development as her nanny and not miss the money. Wood was considerably more defensible, it wasn't illegal to employ undocumented workers when she did so, she paid required taxes. But both went down. Famously the single, child free Reno was appointed instead. Not a single, solitary appointee since has not been confirmed over this (some have had to back pay taxes but no non confirmations). I very much see this as going this way. Some conservative, white male will have tweets every bit as bad and be approved. I would bet money on it.

[aikoaiko]

13. Twitter records will be a growing problem for us because we have higher standards than the GOP

I don't like to sandbag ourselves when their criterion acceptable social media behavior is Trump.

Having said that there are consequences for what you say online. Those "mean tweets" may have served her well as President of a Center for American Progress, but now she needs votes. She can say she'll be different, but in my experience people don't really change.

[Hortensis]

14. Support. She's a strong, competent progressive liberal.

I won't weep if she's not confirmed, there are other good people who didn't offend with truth harshly sopken.

But most of her targets on both left and right deserved far worse. Those who disagree can count our dead and all else they brought on us, and that's still happening.