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George II

(67,782 posts)
15. There are 20 based in Vermont, which is the first state that has received its full allotment....
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 09:30 AM
Feb 2021

....of the jet.

I guess they're there to ward off a sneak attack from Canada.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
5. Like I always tell everyone "it's not like they ever throw parades for helping to feed the kids"
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 10:36 PM
Feb 2021

Teachers, healthcare workers, community activists and volunteers never get parades and their own holidays like veterans do. It’s because those things aren’t valued by our society. Those people obviously don’t help us keep our freedom and liberty.

Pffft, imagine having a mattress sale on a holiday devoted to teachers or healthcare workers. Ridiculous, I tell you. We save those honors for our veterans and war dead.


I hope my cynicism is blatantly obvious and that it goes without saying that I very sarcastic in my above post.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
3. A quote from the article calls the f-35 a Ferrari
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 10:28 PM
Feb 2021

From the article:

The F-35 is a Ferrari, Brown told reporters last Wednesday. “You don’t drive your Ferrari to work every day, you only drive it on Sundays. This is our ‘high end’ [fighter], we want to make sure we don’t use it all for the low-end fight.”


They should go with the Porsche of aircraft. They’re half the price of the Ferrari, just about as capable on the track, and absolutely reliable and civil enough to daily drive year round in any conditions.

Instead of pushing envelope to the limits of technology, build something that is 95% of the current limits an save tremendously and have something reliable, like a Porsche.

sheshe2

(83,977 posts)
6. Hmm!
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 10:36 PM
Feb 2021

Hm...




$1,727,000,000,000 for a failed program.

Tell me again what we "can't afford".

No health care, education, energy and water, food for the poor, climate.

If this doesn't enrage you, you don't have a soul.

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. It's known as "priorities", ma'am, "priorities"! Ironic, isn't is she? By the way....
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 10:38 PM
Feb 2021

...$1.7 trillion is just about equal to the $1.9 trillion that is being debated and negotiated in the Senate today.

machoneman

(4,016 posts)
7. It's a bullshit article. Forbes, those effen liars! Always more ...
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 10:37 PM
Feb 2021

...Defense Department spending. Go cheap pilotless or go home and pound sand!

A HERETIC I AM

(24,380 posts)
10. "What is the point of the airplane?"
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 10:45 PM
Feb 2021

“To spend money......... The point is to send money to Lockheed.”

From 7 years ago

EX500rider

(10,882 posts)
11. They didn't say "it failed"..
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 10:46 PM
Feb 2021

They said they would like a low cost fighter to go with it.

However a "low cost" 5th Gen stealthily fighter is a pipe dream.

If it had actually was a failure Japan, Israel, South Korea etc would not be lining up to buy them.

The 4th Gen F-18 Super Hornet is almost $70 million.

4th Gen F-15-EX is about $88 million.

And the F-35 is a generation past them.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
16. This Map Shows Why The F-35 Has Turned Into A Trillion-Dollar Fiasco
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 10:27 AM
Feb 2021

Jeremy Bender , Armin Rosen , and Skye Gould Aug 20, 2014

The Pentagon has stuck with the F-35 Lightning Joint Strike Fighter program despite dozens of technical problems and delays, strategic concerns, and massive cost overruns that have nearly doubled the initial cost estimate, raising the cost of building the planes to around $400 billion with a lifetime cost of up to $1.5 trillion.

One reason why the project has become such a boondoggle is that many states and countries are significantly invested in the plane, relying on its production for income and jobs.

Every U.S. state but Alaska, Hawaii, Nebraska, and Wyoming has economic ties to the F-35, with 18 states counting on the project for $100 million or more in economic activity, according to primary contractor Lockheed Martin. All told, the project is supposedly responsible for 32,500 jobs in the U.S. Globally, another nine countries have major ties to the F-35.

https://www.businessinsider.com/this-map-explains-the-f-35-fiasco-2014-8

Texas, California, and Florida, states with large congressional delegations, are the top three states. New York is number six.

The art of plane-making is to have subcontractors in as many congressional districts as possible.

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