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(9,952 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....of the jet.
I guess they're there to ward off a sneak attack from Canada.
msongs
(67,465 posts)Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)Teachers, healthcare workers, community activists and volunteers never get parades and their own holidays like veterans do. Its because those things arent valued by our society. Those people obviously dont help us keep our freedom and liberty.
Pffft, imagine having a mattress sale on a holiday devoted to teachers or healthcare workers. Ridiculous, I tell you. We save those honors for our veterans and war dead.
I hope my cynicism is blatantly obvious and that it goes without saying that I very sarcastic in my above post.
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)From the article:
They should go with the Porsche of aircraft. Theyre half the price of the Ferrari, just about as capable on the track, and absolutely reliable and civil enough to daily drive year round in any conditions.
Instead of pushing envelope to the limits of technology, build something that is 95% of the current limits an save tremendously and have something reliable, like a Porsche.
El Supremo
(20,365 posts)sheshe2
(83,977 posts)Hm...
Link to tweet
$1,727,000,000,000 for a failed program.
Tell me again what we "can't afford".
No health care, education, energy and water, food for the poor, climate.
If this doesn't enrage you, you don't have a soul.
George II
(67,782 posts)...$1.7 trillion is just about equal to the $1.9 trillion that is being debated and negotiated in the Senate today.
sheshe2
(83,977 posts)machoneman
(4,016 posts)...Defense Department spending. Go cheap pilotless or go home and pound sand!
empedocles
(15,751 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,380 posts)To spend money......... The point is to send money to Lockheed.
From 7 years ago
soryang
(3,299 posts)thanks.
EX500rider
(10,882 posts)They said they would like a low cost fighter to go with it.
However a "low cost" 5th Gen stealthily fighter is a pipe dream.
If it had actually was a failure Japan, Israel, South Korea etc would not be lining up to buy them.
The 4th Gen F-18 Super Hornet is almost $70 million.
4th Gen F-15-EX is about $88 million.
And the F-35 is a generation past them.
GregariousGroundhog
(7,526 posts)Klaralven
(7,510 posts)Jeremy Bender , Armin Rosen , and Skye Gould Aug 20, 2014
The Pentagon has stuck with the F-35 Lightning Joint Strike Fighter program despite dozens of technical problems and delays, strategic concerns, and massive cost overruns that have nearly doubled the initial cost estimate, raising the cost of building the planes to around $400 billion with a lifetime cost of up to $1.5 trillion.
One reason why the project has become such a boondoggle is that many states and countries are significantly invested in the plane, relying on its production for income and jobs.
Every U.S. state but Alaska, Hawaii, Nebraska, and Wyoming has economic ties to the F-35, with 18 states counting on the project for $100 million or more in economic activity, according to primary contractor Lockheed Martin. All told, the project is supposedly responsible for 32,500 jobs in the U.S. Globally, another nine countries have major ties to the F-35.
https://www.businessinsider.com/this-map-explains-the-f-35-fiasco-2014-8
Texas, California, and Florida, states with large congressional delegations, are the top three states. New York is number six.
The art of plane-making is to have subcontractors in as many congressional districts as possible.