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[jimfields33]

1. No questions asked?

They shot a person 4 times. Questions must be asked.

[Mariana]

54. That's what she's saying publicly.

We have no idea what's going on that isn't being shared with the media.

[fescuerescue]

58. Seems like a dumb thing to say publicly

[Mariana]

70. It depends upon what's more important to her.

If she cares more about retrieving the dogs and/or helping the police catch the shooter than about what you and other complete strangers think of her, then she would say publicly whatever she thinks will help make those things happen.

[LisaL]

71. It seems pretty obvious to me what her priorities are here.

Reward for return of the dogs, no questions asked. Not for information leading to apprehension of the shooter (and 500 k could get a lot of people talking).

[Pongo]

88. She wants her dogs back. The police will take care of the crime against humans.

[LisaL]

98. There are lots of unsolved crimes.

So you can't really count on police to "take care" of finding the shooters.

[Pongo]

99. Perhaps not, but with a shooting and a dognapping involving a celebrity, I wager on someone spilling

the beans.

[DarthDem]

2. Geez

How horrible!

I hope the gentleman recovers and the doggies are recovered safely.

[3Hotdogs]

3. 500k for return of dogs....no questions asked

Nuthin’ for who shot the dog walker?

[Beetwasher.]

4. Lady Gaga May Not Ask Any Questions

Doesn't mean the cops won't.

[lagomorph777]

11. Exactly.

[LakeArenal]

15. You don't know that. Gaga will take care of her dog walker.

And it’s none of our business.

[LisaL]

39. Crime is not of our business?

Since when?

[LakeArenal]

46. What she does for her personal employee and the doctors is none of our business.

Did not say it isn’t police business.

[fescuerescue]

59. The shooting of someone in public is mostly certainly all of our business

Certainly more so than the theft of dogs.

[SharonClark]

51. The dog walker isn't missing.

[LisaL]

65. Men who shot him are missing.

Shouldn't the be found so they don't do it to someone else?

[OriginalGeek]

86. Yeah and who will show up to collect the reward?

The shooters. I expect heavy police involvement with that.

[LisaL]

91. Really? You think the shooters would personally show up for the reward?

NT

[OriginalGeek]

100. they would have to make some contact some how

if they want the money. Police have an app for that.

[Fullduplexxx]

5. .5mil for the dog none for who shot my dogwalker

[efhmc]

6. Here is how I see that. First you get your dogs back safely and then go after the shooter big time.

[Fullduplexxx]

7. .5mil for my dog .5mil for info leading to the arrest of the person who shot

My dog walker .... imo

[frazzled]

10. It's a way of finding the shooter

That's my guess: make an offer that can't be refused to return the dogs, then nab the returner (probably not the shooter himself) and shake it out of them as to who the criminal is.

Didn't you ever watch Perry Mason. Paul Drake would have been the stakeout guy.

[LakeArenal]

48. Exactly. Greed is an overwhelming bait for some.

[LisaL]

68. If you want to find the shooter, you offer the reward for the information on the shooter.

NT

[fescuerescue]

60. Backwards

First get the criminals who tried to MURDER someone.

It's a bonus if we get the dogs back.

[fescuerescue]

119. Me 2. But I REALLY REALLY

hope they don't get shot 4 times.

That would be much worse.

[fescuerescue]

121. yea that would be bad

I think we can agree

[BannonsLiver]

8. People already attacking her over the reward.

LOL

We’re a predictable lot.

[Dream Girl]

12. As they should. Fucking stupid.

[LakeArenal]

16. You don't k ow that. The walker is personal.

Gaga is not the type to leave her family (which the dogs and dog walker are) in a hospital with no aid or comfort.

[Dream Girl]

30. The no questions asked part really bothers me. And half a million is an o sense amount of money.

The optics on this a really bad. They tried to kill that man. Did she care?

[LakeArenal]

49. I guess we disagree. I think she cares greatly for all humans.

Especially since dog walker Ryan is part of her extended family.

[LisaL]

36. We are not talking about personal help to the injured victim.

We are talking about apprehension of criminals that shot him. No questions asked in a case where a person was shot four times?

[LakeArenal]

44. She's saying that but I'm sure the police will have questions.

[Dream Girl]

50. That is wat bothers me so muc. They tried to modernize that poor man,

I know Lady Gaga is a wonderful person and amazing talen but this is off the rails.

[BannonsLiver]

18. So because she offers a reward for the dogs she doesn't give a fuck about the walker?

Is that the logic?

Because nobody has ever offered a reward for lost or stolen dogs. It’s never happened in the history of the world.

[Hortensis]

22. The "walker's" name is Ryan Fischer. Anyone concerned enough to check

on him would learn that he's, rather amazingly given the 4 shots, doing fine in the hospital and expected to "fully recover."

Link to tweet

[Dream Girl]

26. No but it just seems so excessive. How about the dog walker? Half a million is crazy!

[BannonsLiver]

28. She's rich so she can afford it.

We have no idea what her relationship with the gentleman who was shot is or what she intends or is already doing to help support him and his family. I’ll wait to hear more about that before I push the cancel button. I’m old fashioned that way.

[Dream Girl]

32. I get that but still not a good look. If I had that kind of money, I'd probably do the same, if my

Dog was taken. I’d just want her back. But still that is enough money to change lives. I know Lady Gaga does a lot of good works with her time and talents.I think the “no questions asked” thing is bothering me.

[fescuerescue]

61. How much is the reward for the apprehension of the attempted killers?

We know the return of the dogs is $500k.

But not a peep about the catching the would be killers.

[LisaL]

64. My feelings exactly.

Money offered for information on criminals often result in apprehension.
Here she is offering reward for the return of the dogs, no questions asked. Seems clear what priorities are.

[kcr]

27. Agreed

No questions asked? What about the poor guy who was shot? No thought or reward for information leading to justice for her employee? Shows what he's worth to her.

[SharonClark]

52. The reward is for finding the missing dogs which would likely lead to the criminal.

It's not compensation for an injured friend/employee/relative.

[LisaL]

66. Seems reward for information on criminals would be more appropriate if the goal was

to find the criminals.

[Pongo]

90. Why?

[edhopper]

9. Sounds like

Dogfighters. Sadly, they often steal smaller dogs to for their fighting dogs to kill.

I hope the Dog Walker recovers.

[lagomorph777]

14. Frenchies (and these are probably high-grade Frenchies) are way too valuable for that.

It sounds like this was a targeted attack.

[jmowreader]

92. If you can just grab them, what does it matter what they cost?

Given that, if I was the police I'd stake out the airports. My bet is someone in Eastern Europe hired the gunman to grab these specific dogs. Fortunately, French Bulldogs are distinctive and not all that common.

[lagomorph777]

97. You don't have to risk a murder charge to grab a stray dog.

Your Eastern Europe theory (or broadly, serious organized crime) is more likely.

[Dream Girl]

23. I doubt "dog fighters" would shoot someone in cold blood to get three extremely expensive dos

They tend to use kittens for that. These dogs were worth’s thousands of dollars probably great bloodlines. They knew exactly wat they were doing.

[LisaL]

112. There seems to be a lot of dognappings involving French Bulldogs.

These dognappers are presumably taking the dogs to sell them to somebody, not to use in dog fights.

[iemanja]

13. No wonder they killed the dogwalker

Now they get half a million, no questions asked.

[LakeArenal]

20. Where does it say the walker was killed?

Gaga may not have questions but the police will.

[iemanja]

87. shot four times in the chest

I assumed that would kill a person. Silly me.

[LakeArenal]

104. You assumed. Yeah. Silly You.

[Hortensis]

25. Good grief. NO, he's not killed and LAPD Robbery-Homicide is on it. nt

[Iggo]

17. No questions asked? They tried to kill your employee, an actual human being.

I know there’s people who love dogs more than humans, but come on, this is fucking ridiculous.

[LakeArenal]

21. That walker is part of her family.

Gaga has a huge heart. Especially those dear to her. What she does for the walker is a private matter. Especially while seriously hurt.

[fescuerescue]

63. So no reward for catching the would be killers

but $500k for the dog.

Cause you know. catching killers is a private matter.

[LakeArenal]

69. It just happened. All you judgey judgertons can have your field day.

Jumping to all your worst conclusions.
Attributing the worst motivations.
Gaga has never done one thing to earn this despicable speculation.

Quite the opposite in fact.

If our dog sitter was shot we’d be desolate.

The police aren’t about to tell you or me anything regarding the victim or the investigation.

[LisaL]

72. So can you, celebrity worshipers.

NT

[LakeArenal]

78. Worship. Hyperbole. Meh.

[BannonsLiver]

24. The police are tasked with conducting criminal investigations

[Hassin Bin Sober]

29. The police will handle that part of the puzzle. No one will look out for the dogs except the owner.

A “ no questions asked” reward offered by a civilian doesn’t mean shit when it comes to a criminal case. But it might get the dogs back from the person they are sold to.

I would do the same if I had the money. And after I got the dogs back I would offer a million for the arrest and conviction of the shooters.

[LisaL]

41. Have you ever heard of a reward for providing information?

She is offering reward for the return of the dogs.
Not for providing information to catch the robbers.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

55. Maybe you should read my entire post

[jmowreader]

108. Okay...let's throw this out

If she said she was offering a reward for the return of the dogs but the police would be there to investigate the shooting, would anyone show up to collect? Hell no, they’d sell off the dogs on Craigslist and go on with their merry lives.

I get the feeling when the culprit shows up to collect the reward she’s going to introduce them to her good friends Sergeant O’Malley, Sergeant Stedenko and Sergeant Smith.

[kysrsoze]

19. There was another dog-napping in L.A. this past week. I think it was French bulldogs too.

Two men came to a house supposedly looking to buy them, and they ran out of the house with two of them. The owner tried to stop one, and one of the dognappers fought her off. It was all caught on the home's security cameras. It could very well be the same group.

Dognappers are absolute scum of the earth - no regard for the dogs or their owners.

[LisaL]

77. Yep, those people advertised French Bulldog puppies for sale.

Could be connected, could be not. But good thinking.
French Bulldogs are expensive dogs.

[Dream Girl]

93. A woman walking a Frnchie was brutally attacked in San Francisco last month.

They punched her in the face and grabbed her dog.

[jmowreader]

106. So, we have a pattern

Next question: where are these dogs getting popular among rich people?

[LisaL]

113. They are small and kind of cute dogs.

NT

[Irish_Dem]

31. It's possible the police advised LG to issue this reward with specific wording.

For a good reason.
They are trying to catch the shooter.

[LisaL]

37. How is reward with no questions asked is going to help to catch the shooter?

Do tell.

[Irish_Dem]

42. Lure the dognappers to pick up the reward.

Nab them when they do.

Seems like a simple police procedure.

[Lucinda]

33. ❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️

[Ka-Dinh Oy]

34. I feel for the walker. Who would have thought walking dogs is a dangerous thing.

I suspect the reward with no questions asked is a trap. She might have her line tapped for any calls for the reward. The police might be staking the place out. If she gives money maybe she will try to give them a check because they can be easily found when they try to cash it.

[LisaL]

38. She gave an email for the contact for the reward.

NT

[Ka-Dinh Oy]

40. Yeah, that makes more sense.

[Irish_Dem]

45. This is what I think is going on. LG also has a security detail also advising her.

She is not foolish.

[Dan]

35. I guess I look at this differently,

Not one damn penny for the dogs. To pay would encourage and lead to more dognapping and shootings.

Half a million reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the shooters. For $500K, some people would turn in their mothers.

Recovering the dogs would be nice - and she probably has chips inserted, so any visit to the vet would result in information. To try and breed and sell - purebreds, people want information on the parentage.

[theneworiginal]

47. There's a deep sense of desperation when it comes from a pet going missing.

Nothing else matters but getting the dogs/pets back, even the greater good in not reinforcing this kind of behavior with rewards. Not getting them back and not doing all you can do is not an option.

Like what happened to the Patriots Coach Jerrod Mayo, his dog was killed because the captors felt too much heat. You have little choice but to incentivize someone to report seeing the dog before it's too late. Do everything you can do to smoke them out and let the cops follow the breadcrumbs.

[jmowreader]

107. Whoa...

People who buy puppy mill dogs don’t look at pedigrees. Who besides the Amish, who I don’t think are involved in this, runs a big puppy mill network?

[Dan]

115. Interesting

...reference your point, so I guess a dog is just a dog, and when you want a certain type of dog you really aren’t concerned with the pedigree - just the looks.

I’d stick with rescue dogs....they seem to last forever and as a mutt, no one going to shoot you for it. (I hope).

[nolabear]

43. I have two Frenchies. I guarantee the offer is smart.

I just mention I have them because I feel for her and identify with how miserable she must be. I’m never shocked by DU snark any more but there are good reasons for “no questions asked.” This is about the dogs, not the walker, whose shooting no doubt is being vigorously investigated and who is currently safe.

I have no doubt the dogs are microchipped. To put out a reward that encourages anyone who might lay out money for a Frenchie or know where there are a couple of new ones around gives her a maximum chance they’ll be identified and brought home. And it could give someone impetus to squeal. If anyone thought they’d be not asked but accused (which is what that’s really designed to imply) then it seriously throws up blocks.

Good wishes for a happy resolution all around.

[SharonClark]

53. Agree 100%

[LisaL]

67. It's smart if goal is to find the dogs.

To find the men who shot the dog walker, not so much.

[nolabear]

74. I disagree. Why do you say that?

[LakeArenal]

105. Because people like to judge others even when they can only conjecture what any of it means.

[lostnfound]

81. Finding the dogs will help find the shooter.

He may have sold them to someone, and that someone may be able to identify the seller.

[demmiblue]

79. +1

[Mariana]

56. Lady Gaga may very well be saying publicly "No Questions Asked"

about the reward on advice from the police, hoping that the shooter will make contact and they'll be able to catch him. We don't know what's going on that isn't being told to the media, or how she may be assisting in the investigation.

[LisaL]

62. I don't buy that.

When police want to find a criminal, reward is often offered for information leading to the arrest.

[fescuerescue]

57. The headline is emphasizing the theft of the dogs

over the shooting. Seems a little out of balance.

So there is a $500k reward for the dogs. "no questions asked"

I dunno man. If someone shot 4 times. I think we should be asking a few questions of someone who has the dogs.

And most of the article seems focused on the dogs (which are presumably safe), but just a few sentences of the shooting victim.

priorities I guess.

[Vinca]

82. I think that's a good ruse to lure them in. Bait them and arrest them when the dogs

are delivered in their attempt to get the cash.

[Hekate]

73. I read this thread & I could feel brain cells dying. Lady Gaga is laying out some serious bait here

And I am quite sure the police will have many many many questions to ask of whoever comes sniffing around that bait. Because questions about the whereabouts of the dogs are really questions about the whereabouts of the shooter(s).

My gods, people. Think.

[demmiblue]

80. +1

[MizLibby]

84. +1

[malaise]

75. Malaise is taking bets

that this was a MAGAT

[LisaL]

76. Really?

That's your take here? You will lose the bet.

[hamsterjill]

83. My bet is that Gaga is doing what the authorities have asked her to do.

I’ll withhold judgment on this woman - who ALWAYS champions Democratic causes - until more is known.

I marvel at how fast some people are to dethrone those that are on “our” side. Case in point: the Boss.

Let’s give this a little time before the smear campaign, please.

[LymphocyteLover]

85. yes, agree

[LisaL]

95. They asked her to offer 500K for safe return of the dogs?

NT

[hamsterjill]

96. We don't know.

That’s my point.

[jmowreader]

109. It's not like she's going to pay it out, if the police are there

These dogs aren’t cheap. You’re looking at felony level possession of stolen property.

[LisaL]

111. I don't believe police asked her to put up a big reward.

NT

[LisaL]

89. TMZ has the surveillance video of the crime.

Dog walker put up a fight to prevent the dognapping and got shot for his trouble.

[chowder66]

94. This happened a block over from my best friend. I looked at citizen app last night because of the

helicopter which was flying over my neighborhood with a spotlight. I'm about a little over 2 miles away from him so they must have fled east.

My guess is that she was advised not to offer an award just yet for info on the suspects but was okayed to offer it for the dogs.
The dogs go for 5 to 30 k each and since they are her dogs I'm sure their worth is much, much more now.

The previous bulldog puppies which were stolen in North Hollywood were probably going to an open market for sale.
The police have the female involved but the 2 guys still haven't been caught nor have the dogs been recovered. That one was an adoption gone wrong.

[MerryBlooms]

101. Someone always knows something, and a half million dollars is a good way to

convince someone with information to come forward. Maybe a mom who's asking 'Where the hell did these dogs come from?". An angry ex recognizing something in the video capture of the crime?

I'm sure you're correct, law enforcement being involved in every step taken.

[LisaL]

102. Reward is not for information, reward is for return of the dogs.

So someone who has information but no dogs is not going to get the reward.

[Raine]

103. I sure hope she gets her dogs back. 😢 🙏 nt

[MustLoveBeagles]

110. I hope that LG gets her dogs back and the shooter is caught

[bdamomma]

114. that is

disgusting.