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Takket

(23,714 posts)
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 12:34 PM Feb 2021

Facebook stands with Qanon and MTG


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Facebook is a vile right wing machine and should be shunned but anyone that also shuns Fox News, OAN, newsmax or any other propaganda site.
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Facebook stands with Qanon and MTG (Original Post) Takket Feb 2021 OP
Hate Speech - Incredible. Yet another WTF!!! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2021 #1
Re. Newman should post a sign comparing the types of marriages, monogamous and polygamous. TheBlackAdder Feb 2021 #49
Facebook is a fascist shit hole. BlueIdaho Feb 2021 #2
Fascistbook lagomorph777 Feb 2021 #10
Ding! Ding! Ding! BlueIdaho Feb 2021 #51
FB S**KS sheshe2 Feb 2021 #3
But I only use Facebook for......... blueinredohio Feb 2021 #4
Yep, that's me. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #36
God, they suck! OhZone Feb 2021 #5
Facebook apologized, said it shouldn't have happened, and restored. Hortensis Feb 2021 #6
Alert swarms probably overwhelmed the "moderators" and ... NurseJackie Feb 2021 #7
Agreed. Right wingers have learned to "play the refs" well. Caliman73 Feb 2021 #11
I just reported MTG's post on Facebook Beaverhausen Feb 2021 #8
I report on twitter Claire Oh Nette Feb 2021 #50
If you think you are a Facebook user, you have it backwards. lagomorph777 Feb 2021 #9
Lord. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #12
Exacty So mezame Feb 2021 #29
Yes, exactly. Paying attention only to your individual "feed" misses the bigger picture Maven Feb 2021 #33
Cannot wait til Margie Traitor QAnon is no longer in ANY calimary Feb 2021 #13
please use MarjiQ and nothing else demtenjeep Feb 2021 #14
Facebook is fascist malware. Maven Feb 2021 #15
+1000 lagomorph777 Feb 2021 #16
+1 moondust Feb 2021 #17
I use Facebook and make no apologies. Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #18
Post removed Post removed Feb 2021 #22
Lol. Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #25
Wait, wait... have you been called "evil" yet? NurseJackie Feb 2021 #28
Who called you evil? Maven Feb 2021 #30
I never said you did. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #31
Same. Yes, they're "blocking" can seem arbitrary at times. But i see TONS of RW stuff blocked too oldsoftie Feb 2021 #43
Ridiculous. No it's not. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #21
Yeah, it is. Maven Feb 2021 #26
Lulz. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #32
You could also post the top 10 talk radio shows. oldsoftie Feb 2021 #46
I keep waiting for a call to "BOYCOTT RADIO!!" NurseJackie Feb 2021 #47
HA! oldsoftie Feb 2021 #55
No the left doesn't JonLP24 Feb 2021 #53
If you think FB is malware, you don't know what malware is. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #34
I just deleted facebook, messenger, and instagram. movingviolation Feb 2021 #19
Just now? NurseJackie Feb 2021 #23
Congressswoman Kelly's video is back up Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #20
Someday, someone, somewhere will explain how algorithms work to the internet outrage machine Sympthsical Feb 2021 #24
I hate Facebook.......................have never had a account.......because one POS turbinetree Feb 2021 #27
Facebook is VILE. BigDemVoter Feb 2021 #35
I've been saying it for years seta1950 Feb 2021 #37
I enjoy Facebook very much! I will continue to use it... NurseJackie Feb 2021 #48
The right wingers LOVE IT RandiFan1290 Feb 2021 #56
FB is a drug I kicked several years ago. But Oldem Feb 2021 #38
It needs to be broken up. Warren-style SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2021 #39
I have been on FB for years and am getting increasingly disgusted with them. FlyingPiggy Feb 2021 #40
We are de-volving at a rapid rate. Incivility is being amplified and hate speech normalized. Evolve Dammit Feb 2021 #41
Quit FB 10 months ago. multigraincracker Feb 2021 #42
facebook says your photo was hate speach,,!!!!! not. AllaN01Bear Feb 2021 #44
It's back, fwiw. demmiblue Feb 2021 #45
There's something wrong with that. Kid Berwyn Feb 2021 #52
Fuckkkerberg's little project can drown in its own cesspool Blue Owl Feb 2021 #54
I Shun It Too colsohlibgal Feb 2021 #57

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
49. Re. Newman should post a sign comparing the types of marriages, monogamous and polygamous.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 03:34 PM
Feb 2021

OhZone

(3,216 posts)
5. God, they suck!
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 12:57 PM
Feb 2021

It might be just a screwed up "algorithm" though.

But that's no excuse.

I got flagged a couple of times for joking about "all men are" so and so, although it was obviously just a sarcastic, satirical comment.

Maybe we should find a new place, like the right wingers are.

Liker anyone?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. Facebook apologized, said it shouldn't have happened, and restored.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 01:14 PM
Feb 2021



It's getting awfully reactionary around here.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
7. Alert swarms probably overwhelmed the "moderators" and ...
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 01:17 PM
Feb 2021

... rather than using their brains, they assumed that the manufactured MOB must have been justified in their outraged.

Facebook needs to do more training, or have "sanity checkers" for situations like this. Especially with high-profile accounts.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
11. Agreed. Right wingers have learned to "play the refs" well.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 01:28 PM
Feb 2021

No doubt they have instant mobs to alert on content they don't like and many a moderator gets overwhelmed by hundreds of alerts.

Beaverhausen

(24,699 posts)
8. I just reported MTG's post on Facebook
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 01:20 PM
Feb 2021

hope others do that as well and maybe they will take it down.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
50. I report on twitter
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 05:45 PM
Feb 2021

if they're spreading hate or the big lie, it's dangerous.

I try to report five messages at a time.

Drop in the bucket, but maybe it helps slow the hate down a tiny bit.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
9. If you think you are a Facebook user, you have it backwards.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 01:24 PM
Feb 2021

Facebook is using you to spread their Fascist agenda. If you think the lack of GOP propaganda on your timeline means you are fine, you are wrong. You are a funding stream that supports the propaganda push.

mezame

(295 posts)
29. Exacty So
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 02:31 PM
Feb 2021

Watch The Social Dilemma, and then delete your FB account. I've said this before elsewhere, as soon as you log-on - regardless of your intent - you are complicit in dumping your data (and that of your customers, friends, followers and so forth) into their money stream. They don't care what you do on their platform, just so long as you ARE on the platform, and the longer the better the more money they make.

#FUCKZUCK

Maven

(10,533 posts)
33. Yes, exactly. Paying attention only to your individual "feed" misses the bigger picture
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 02:38 PM
Feb 2021

Which is exactly how Facebook likes it. They control what you see and don't see, and they use your interaction with the site to model behavior and target information (and disinformation) at people like you. Whatever gets the most "engagement", and increasingly that means right-wing propaganda designed to provoke anger and hate.

calimary

(90,017 posts)
13. Cannot wait til Margie Traitor QAnon is no longer in ANY
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 01:52 PM
Feb 2021

position of power - or influence.

And I’m forced back to the same damn question:

What does that say about the voters who somehow see fit to vote this vermin into Congress - in THEIR name (besides NOTHING good)?

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
14. please use MarjiQ and nothing else
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 01:57 PM
Feb 2021

she doesn't deserve to use the 3 initials like our late Justice

Maven

(10,533 posts)
15. Facebook is fascist malware.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 02:01 PM
Feb 2021

"So what if they helped with a genocide. I need to see photos of my grandkids!"

moondust

(21,286 posts)
17. +1
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 02:21 PM
Feb 2021
~
Facebook banned accounts of the military of Myanmar and its related media entities on Wednesday night, citing its “history of exceptionally severe human rights abuses” and potential to use social media to pursue new rounds of violence following a coup earlier this month.
~
Military personnel had used Facebook extensively to push propaganda against the Rohingya minority group amid a genocidal campaign beginning in 2017, prompting many to accuse the company of enabling mass murder — a point underscored by a scathing U.N. report in 2018 that concluded Facebook played a key role in fomenting violence.
~
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/02/24/facebook-myanmar-coup-genocide/

Turin_C3PO

(16,385 posts)
18. I use Facebook and make no apologies.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 02:23 PM
Feb 2021

People who don't like it are certainly free to refrain from signing up.

Response to Turin_C3PO (Reply #18)

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
28. Wait, wait... have you been called "evil" yet?
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 02:30 PM
Feb 2021

I have. I suppose I should be angry and insulted... but honestly, it's all rather amusing (but I guess it's sad too) when I see people lashing out at others who do not deserve to be insulted and attacked like that.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
31. I never said you did.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 02:35 PM
Feb 2021
Not I.
I never said you did. It was someone else (actually several) making similar absurd and over-the-top claims of being "malware".
 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
43. Same. Yes, they're "blocking" can seem arbitrary at times. But i see TONS of RW stuff blocked too
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 03:05 PM
Feb 2021

But its our freedom to make a choice
I choose to associate with my friends & family even when i disagree with them

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
32. Lulz.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 02:37 PM
Feb 2021
It's a right-wing propaganda site.
No it's not. It's a vehicle for RW extremists to use... but ALL of Facebook isn't a "right-wing propaganda site". It's an absurd claim.
 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
46. You could also post the top 10 talk radio shows.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 03:08 PM
Feb 2021

So progressives dont trend well on either.
Do a better job of getting your message out. The Left has Shapiros & Bonginos too. Share 'em.

JonLP24

(29,929 posts)
53. No the left doesn't
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 12:59 AM
Feb 2021

The right promotes idiots like Shapiro & Tomi Lauren financially while the left has very smart credible & qualified people with only 46K followers and a Patreon account. In the past they had Ann Coulter.

The right wing lies that social media is biased against conservatives.

"Mark Changed The Rules": How Facebook Went Easy On Alex Jones And Other Right-Wing Figures

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/mark-zuckerberg-joel-kaplan-facebook-alex-jones



Why Won’t Twitter Treat White Supremacy Like ISIS? Because It Would Mean Banning Some Republican Politicians Too.

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With every sort of content filter, there is a tradeoff, he explained. When a platform aggressively enforces against ISIS content, for instance, it can also flag innocent accounts as well, such as Arabic language broadcasters. Society, in general, accepts the benefit of banning ISIS for inconveniencing some others, he said.

In separate discussions verified by Motherboard, that employee said Twitter hasn’t taken the same aggressive approach to white supremacist content because the collateral accounts that are impacted can, in some instances, be Republican politicians.

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Though Twitter has rules against “abuse and hateful conduct,” civil rights experts, government organizations, and Twitter users say the platform hasn’t done enough to curb white supremacy and neo-Nazis on the platform, and its competitor Facebook recently explicitly banned white nationalism. Wednesday, during a parliamentary committee hearing on social media content moderation, UK MP Yvette Cooper asked Twitter why it hasn’t yet banned former KKK leader David Duke, and “Jack, ban the Nazis” has become a common reply to many of Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey’s tweets. During a recent interview with TED that allowed the public to tweet in questions, the feed was overtaken by people asking Dorsey why the platform hadn’t banned Nazis. Dorsey said “we have policies around violent extremist groups,” but did not give a straightforward answer to the question. Dorsey did not respond to two requests for comment sent via Twitter DM.

(Snip)

Twitter has not publicly explained why it has been able to so successfully eradicate ISIS while it continues to struggle with white nationalism. As a company, Twitter won’t say that it can’t treat white supremacy in the same way as it treated ISIS. But external experts Motherboard spoke to said that the measures taken against ISIS were so extreme that, if applied to white supremacy, there would certainly be backlash, because algorithms would obviously flag content that has been tweeted by prominent Republicans—or, at the very least, their supporters. So it’s no surprise, then, that employees at the company have realized that as well.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/a3xgq5/why-wont-twitter-treat-white-supremacy-like-isis-because-it-would-mean-banning-some-republican-politicians-too

I'm tired of the bullshit from Republicans. Social media is biased in their favor regardless of what they say.

Edit: Speaking of Tomi Lahren




TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
34. If you think FB is malware, you don't know what malware is.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 02:38 PM
Feb 2021

Facebook is many things, many of them bad. Malware is not one of them.

movingviolation

(310 posts)
19. I just deleted facebook, messenger, and instagram.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 02:24 PM
Feb 2021

I refuse to support this company in any way shape or form.

Ms. Toad

(38,635 posts)
20. Congressswoman Kelly's video is back up
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 02:24 PM
Feb 2021

It's pretty easy to report Greene's video, which actually is hate speech.

Click on the menu elipses (upper right)
Click on report (bottom item)
click on hate speech: gender or gender identity.

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
24. Someday, someone, somewhere will explain how algorithms work to the internet outrage machine
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 02:26 PM
Feb 2021

There are tens to hundreds of millions of posts on FB every day. There is no humanly physical way for moderators to read and react to every single post reported. Instead, the system uses an algorithm, searches for keywords, etc. I imagine the initial post received a flood of reports from disgruntled right-wingers. All the automated software saw was a lot of outrage about a transgender issue. It took the post down. Once it was brought to an actual human's attention, it was put back up.

The end.

It doesn't mean, "FB hates transgendered people and loves fascism!"

FFS.

Put the pitchforks down. It's just software. Give the humans ten seconds to correct the errors before reaching for the molotovs.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
48. I enjoy Facebook very much! I will continue to use it...
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 03:13 PM
Feb 2021

... and you know, even if EVERY Democrat "deleted" Facebook, it would continue to thrive and exist without any balance at all. The progressive message would have an even more difficult time getting out.

Oldem

(833 posts)
38. FB is a drug I kicked several years ago. But
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 02:44 PM
Feb 2021

people want to post pictures of their lunch, and they want to see pictures of their grandchildren. Food pictures I can't defend. Wanting to see our grandchildren I can not only defend, I can relate to, personally. I get emails from my children with photos attached. How quaint.

When Zuck was Harvard, he called people that handed over their personal date "dumb fucks." Now, the nation--no the world--has been Zucked.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,412 posts)
39. It needs to be broken up. Warren-style
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 02:45 PM
Feb 2021

For those of us who connect with friends all over the place, it has been a life changer. I have friends who are isolated and terribly lonely. Facebook, as it was originally intended, connects us all.

Those who prey on the vulnerable need to be outed and held accountable. Facebook needs to be one of those held accountable.

FlyingPiggy

(3,748 posts)
40. I have been on FB for years and am getting increasingly disgusted with them.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 02:46 PM
Feb 2021

I am slowly decreasing my FB presence. I don't post nearly as much as I used to. And hope to really sideline it.

Evolve Dammit

(21,774 posts)
41. We are de-volving at a rapid rate. Incivility is being amplified and hate speech normalized.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 03:00 PM
Feb 2021

colsohlibgal

(5,276 posts)
57. I Shun It Too
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 10:35 AM
Feb 2021

I get friend requests I approve most of them but that’s it. They have facilitated serious harm and loss of life. They have blood on their hands.

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