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MTG was going to find those women to make them swear in on a Bible.
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Funtatlaguy
(10,870 posts)MuseRider
(34,105 posts)how on earth do we run our country in ways to make it better for everyone with people like this? Dumb as a bag of rocks and cannot tell the truth from a lie. If they think it it is the truth. She will never be convinced otherwise or will not admit it.
No this does not surprise me, we ALL knew this is how she works but to hear it always floors me a little bit.
underpants
(182,772 posts)but who knows, she just sits around the office all day with her staff when one of them has some sort of lightbulb moment and off they go.
rsdsharp
(9,165 posts)Someone should read her Article VI of the Constitution.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)For real.
The "book" isn't some magic talisman that if you violate your oath your face melts like in Raiders of the Lost Ark.
redwitch
(14,944 posts)I would approve.
JHB
(37,158 posts)I'll even suggest "What If" number 44, from 1984, which is achingly relevant to present circumstances.
From a thread back last May:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13516300
The premise was "What If Captain America were revived today?" ("today" being 1984).
It has two different Caps being revived: First, the 1950's replacement Cap, who's a McCarthyite Bircher-in-all-but-name, who'd been created to get back that ol' WW2-Cap "living symbol of patriotism" spirit during the crusade against the commies. At some point in the '50s he became inconvenient and was put in some sort of suspended animation. Some time in the 70s he was released by a "patriotic citizen", who was a janitor at the secret facility where he was being kept on ice. Once again posing as WW2 Cap, he becomes a magnet for RW politicians and other zealots.
Including one who wants to put severe restrictions on immigrants, get tough with unruly minorities, and reinvigorate "the real America". With fake-Cap's backing he wins in a landslide. Fake-Cap endorses militias, the "Sentinels of Liberty", to confront protesters. At one such protest, fake-Cap's higher-level backers have a sniper shoot him so it can be blamed on the protesters and justify a crackdown, Reichstag-Fire-style.
Fake-Cap survived (believing it was the protesters who shot him), and went on to help his backers consolidate power under -- I kid you not -- the America First Party. The Sentinels of Liberty are elevated to practically an internal occupation army. They build walls to seal off minorities from the rest of the country, most notable the Harlem Wall. An Emergency Information Freedoms Act is passed to restrict the press. To maintain the appearance of following the 1st Amendment, some dissent (within limits) is allowed. On such dissident is the New York Daily Bugle's cantankerous and idiosyncratic editor/publisher, J. Jonah Jameson.
This is the environment in which WW2 Cap, Steve Rogers, is found in the ice and revived by a submarine crew (submarine duty being the main "See? We're not discriminating. We accept the good ones." job for minorities and Jews in the Navy).
The old-timer sub skipper is able to identify this Cap as the real one, and when they get back to port he sneaks Cap to the Resistance, led by Jameson, Nick Fury, Sam Wilson (who's not The Falcon here, but instead leads "the Black Cadres," intentionally modeled after the Black Panther Party), and Spider-Man.
I give the above rundown to set the stage for the couple of pages below. Clipping panels here and there don't do them justice.
The Resistance strikes back at the America First Party's first national convention in Madison Square Garden. With all the restrictions, its leader is a veritable shoe-in to win the election, and once he's in place he'll consolidate further and make himself the king of America.
First, however, the Resistance upstages the festivities...
Over the next several pages Cap & fake-Cap fight, and other Resistance members take out the Sentinels in the room and keep the TV cameras running. Being the real deal, Cap beats the fake. The crowd reacts, and Cap says his piece.
End scene.
The resolution is wildly simplistic, sure, but they had to wrap it up on a high note.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Response to JHB (Reply #16)
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ms liberty
(8,573 posts)It is stunning.
Blue Dawn
(892 posts)I see an awesome political cartoon in Luckovichs future.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)flor-de-jasmim
(2,125 posts)Celerity
(43,327 posts)haele
(12,647 posts)She's all afraid of Sharia, also. Not Sharia law, but Sharia.
She should be afraid of her precious Biblical Law, because under that, she would be stoned on a heartbeat - and her daughters could be sold as slaves whenever her husband decided to.
Under the same Biblical Laws her White Supremacist Jesus followed and in effect, endorsed, only adding a bit of mercy to judgement. Sharia law isn't any different, or worse.
Hypocritical, stupid waste of flesh.
Haele
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Its 2 different things.
Shes just a dumb ass, racist hick. Which is apparently a good representation the majority voters in her district.
I feel the pain of the liberal voters in her district. My rep is a tool as well.
Cha
(297,154 posts)nails. Slugs are smarter.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Cha
(297,154 posts)zeusdogmom
(990 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... she and the rest of them need to be voted out of office.
Emrys
(7,233 posts)...
John Quincy Adams took the presidential oath on a law volume containing a copy of the Constitution in 1825, and in 1853 Franklin Pierce affirmed the oath rather than swearing it. Theodore Roosevelt used no Bible in taking his first oath of office in 1901, but did in 1905. Other sources have noted that after John F. Kennedy was assassinated, a Catholic missal was used, as no Bible could be found when Lyndon B. Johnson (who was not Catholic, but a Disciple of Christ) had to assume the Presidency.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quran_oath_controversy_of_the_110th_United_States_Congress
This was thrashed out in 2007 during the controversy over Keith Ellison. Not only is she a dingbat, she's an unoriginal dingbat.
JHB
(37,158 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.
History of the Oath
At the start of each new Congress, in January of every odd-numbered year, the entire House of Representatives and one-third of the Senate performs a solemn and festive constitutional rite that is as old as the Republic. While the oath-taking dates back to the First Congress in 1789, the current oath is a product of the 1860s, drafted by Civil War-era members of Congress intent on ensnaring traitors.
The Constitution contains an oath of office only for the president. For other officials, including members of Congress, that document specifies only that they "shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation to support this constitution." In 1789, the First Congress reworked this requirement into a simple fourteen-word oath: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support the Constitution of the United States."
For nearly three-quarters of a century, that oath served nicely, although to the modern ear it sounds woefully incomplete. Missing are the soaring references to bearing "true faith and allegiance;" to taking "this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion;" and to "well and faithfully" discharging the duties of the office.
The outbreak of the Civil War quickly transformed the routine act of oath-taking into one of enormous significance. In April of 1861, a time of uncertain and shifting loyalties, President Abraham Lincoln ordered all federal civilian employees within the executive branch to take an expanded oath. When Congress convened for a brief emergency session in July, members echoed the president's action by enacting legislation requiring employees to take the expanded oath in support of the Union. This oath is the earliest direct predecessor of the modern oath.
When Congress returned for its regular session in December 1861, members who believed that the Union had as much to fear from northern traitors as southern soldiers again revised the oath, adding a new first section known as the "Ironclad Test Oath." The war-inspired Test Oath, signed into law on July 2, 1862, required "every person elected or appointed to any office ... under the Government of the United States ... excepting the President of the United States" to swear or affirm that they had never previously engaged in criminal or disloyal conduct. Those government employees who failed to take the 1862 Test Oath would not receive a salary; those who swore falsely would be prosecuted for perjury and forever denied federal employment.
The 1862 oath's second section incorporated a more polished and graceful rendering of the hastily drafted 1861 oath. Although Congress did not extend coverage of the Ironclad Test Oath to its own members, many took it voluntarily. Angered by those who refused this symbolic act during a wartime crisis, and determined to prevent the eventual return of prewar southern leaders to positions of power in the national government, congressional hard-liners eventually succeeded by 1864 in making the Test Oath mandatory for all members.
The Senate then revised its rules to require that members not only take the Test Oath orally, but also that they "subscribe" to it by signing a printed copy. This condition reflected a wartime practice in which military and civilian authorities required anyone wishing to do business with the federal government to sign a copy of the Test Oath. The current practice of newly sworn senators signing individual pages in an elegantly bound oath book dates from this period.
As tensions cooled during the decade following the Civil War, Congress enacted private legislation permitting particular former Confederates to take only the second section of the 1862 oath. An 1868 public law prescribed this alternative oath for "any person who has participated in the late rebellion, and from whom all legal disabilities arising therefrom have been removed by act of Congress." Northerners immediately pointed to the new law's unfair double standard that required loyal Unionists to take the Test Oath's harsh first section while permitting ex-Confederates to ignore it. In 1884, a new generation of lawmakers quietly repealed the first section of the Test Oath, leaving intact today's moving affirmation of constitutional allegiance.
Taking the Oath
At the beginning of a new term of office, senators-elect take their oath of office from the presiding officer in an open session of the Senate before they can begin to perform their legislative activities. From the earliest days, the senator-electboth the freshman and the returning veteranhas been escorted down the aisle by another senator to take the oath from the presiding officer. Customarily, the other senator from the senator-elect's state performs that ritual. Occasionally, the senator-elect chooses a senator from another state, either because the same-state colleague is absent or because the newly elected senator has sharp political differences with that colleague. Such public displays of these differences do not go unnoticed by journalists.
A ban on photography in the Senate chamber has led senators to devise an alternative way of capturing this highly symbolic moment in their Senate careers. In earlier times, the Vice President invited newly sworn senators and their families into his Capitol office for a reenactment for home-state photographers. Beginning in the late 1970s, following the restoration of the Old Senate Chamber to its appearance at the time it went out of service in 1859, reenactment ceremonies have been held in that deeply historical setting, resplendent in crimson and gold.
https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Oath_Office.htm
Not one mention of a Bible, Quran, torah, or any other religious book mentioned in that history. The ONLY thing they must swear to is the Constitution.
Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)Because republicans never would have allowed that so they had to swear on a bible. And she has to go talk to them because they want sharia.
What an ignorant racist misogynistic pos.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)Lord is she stupid.
brewens
(13,574 posts)TlalocW
(15,380 posts)It's excruciatingly stupid, but I guess maybe she at least learned something since getting elected? Maybe?
Naw.
TlalocW