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janterry

(4,429 posts)
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 06:32 PM Feb 2021

Syrian Journalist Lin Al-Atrash: Some Girls Shame Their Families and "Deserve to Be Killed"




The video is just two minutes. Worth listening to (shocking/sad).

Kuwaiti Morning Show Delves into “Honor Killings” - Syrian Journalist Lin Al-Atrash: Some Girls Shame Their Families and “Deserve to Be Killed”; Tunisian Journalist Safa Jabou: Violence Is Never the Answer
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Syrian Journalist Lin Al-Atrash: Some Girls Shame Their Families and "Deserve to Be Killed" (Original Post) janterry Feb 2021 OP
and "some journalists" can actually go so far as to lose their right to appear on tv shows hlthe2b Feb 2021 #1
they all pretty much agree janterry Feb 2021 #6
i will never understand a culture that kills girls lapfog_1 Feb 2021 #2
Same here! nt frogmarch Feb 2021 #7
You would if you grew up with it. You do not "understand" such Hortensis Feb 2021 #9
Great name for this journalist "Al-a-trash" Lucky Luciano Feb 2021 #3
As my son would say... Dream Girl Feb 2021 #4
WTF? smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #5
This is very deeply embedded in some societies. We used to have a Hortensis Feb 2021 #8
it's really shocking janterry Feb 2021 #11
many fundie xians in the USA drool at the prospect of they themselves allowed to do this Celerity Feb 2021 #10
Sickening. Would you consider cross-posting this in Women's Rights And Issues? Thanks in niyad Feb 2021 #12
Ugh. Shudders. electric_blue68 Feb 2021 #13
Betcha North Shore Chicago Feb 2021 #14
That's one way to keep women in their place. nt leftyladyfrommo Feb 2021 #15
Shocking, but still a very pervasive mentality DFW Feb 2021 #16

hlthe2b

(102,505 posts)
1. and "some journalists" can actually go so far as to lose their right to appear on tv shows
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 06:34 PM
Feb 2021

or publish their violent hate incitement.

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
6. they all pretty much agree
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 06:46 PM
Feb 2021

or at least have some common ground - the difference of opinion is really not all that significant. (which is the most shocking to me)

lapfog_1

(29,243 posts)
2. i will never understand a culture that kills girls
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 06:36 PM
Feb 2021

and I really don't want to accept such things in my culture in the name of inclusion.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. You would if you grew up with it. You do not "understand" such
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 07:04 PM
Feb 2021

things since you were brought up in a late-20/early 21st century western liberal democracy and don't choose to. Men who do that in the U.S. are charged with murder, if caught. Actually, it's the same in nations where culture is in transition, with warring old beliefs and new. Fwiw, many, many women around the world fight to save the old beliefs.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. This is very deeply embedded in some societies. We used to have a
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 06:59 PM
Feb 2021

friend, a handsome, sophisticated, blue-eyed, blond physicist living in the U.S. but from eastern Turkey, who explained (without apology) that that was an of-course in his family. No killing had ever been necessary to his knowledge, but he accepted both Western and Turkish cultural beliefs -- in their societies. I never thought to ask if sometimes male relatives might weaken and whisk the female away to exile, but he left no doubt his family would do their grim, principled duty. In Turkey.

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
11. it's really shocking
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 07:15 PM
Feb 2021

but - yes. So deeply embedded (you can see the women all kind of agreeing with the. um. need for - consequences).

niyad

(113,812 posts)
12. Sickening. Would you consider cross-posting this in Women's Rights And Issues? Thanks in
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 11:59 PM
Feb 2021

advance.

electric_blue68

(15,012 posts)
13. Ugh. Shudders.
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 06:56 AM
Feb 2021

Women are people first.

I might have in my late '30s thought who am I to criticize
another's culture.

But not anymore. To hell with patriarchy!

North Shore Chicago

(3,340 posts)
14. Betcha
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 07:05 AM
Feb 2021

many Q's, incels Et al would LOVE it if they could get away with it in this country!

Remember when Shrub stated, "They hate us for our freedoms?" Riiiiight.

DFW

(54,498 posts)
16. Shocking, but still a very pervasive mentality
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 07:17 AM
Feb 2021

There are millions of Turks living here in Germany, some Arabs as well. My wife was a social worker here, and had to deal regularly with abused women whose families wanted to "correct" their behavior, and kill them if all else failed. So-called "honor killings" still happen, even here, and the killer family members are usually spirited out of Germany and the EU before they can be arrested.

To me, as a Westerner, I find it particularly shocking to see a young woman with a casual sweatshirt and tight jeans espousing this medieval set of social mores, and talking about killing a family member as if she was removing a hangnail. I have Turkish friends here in Germany who find this mentality appalling as well, but they are fully assimilated here. There are hundreds of thousands who are not, and growing up as the female child of such families sometimes does indeed have fatal consequences.

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