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The video is just two minutes. Worth listening to (shocking/sad).
Kuwaiti Morning Show Delves into Honor Killings - Syrian Journalist Lin Al-Atrash: Some Girls Shame Their Families and Deserve to Be Killed; Tunisian Journalist Safa Jabou: Violence Is Never the Answer
hlthe2b
(102,505 posts)or publish their violent hate incitement.
janterry
(4,429 posts)or at least have some common ground - the difference of opinion is really not all that significant. (which is the most shocking to me)
lapfog_1
(29,243 posts)and I really don't want to accept such things in my culture in the name of inclusion.
frogmarch
(12,161 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)things since you were brought up in a late-20/early 21st century western liberal democracy and don't choose to. Men who do that in the U.S. are charged with murder, if caught. Actually, it's the same in nations where culture is in transition, with warring old beliefs and new. Fwiw, many, many women around the world fight to save the old beliefs.
Lucky Luciano
(11,267 posts)Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)Thats fucked up.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)friend, a handsome, sophisticated, blue-eyed, blond physicist living in the U.S. but from eastern Turkey, who explained (without apology) that that was an of-course in his family. No killing had ever been necessary to his knowledge, but he accepted both Western and Turkish cultural beliefs -- in their societies. I never thought to ask if sometimes male relatives might weaken and whisk the female away to exile, but he left no doubt his family would do their grim, principled duty. In Turkey.
janterry
(4,429 posts)but - yes. So deeply embedded (you can see the women all kind of agreeing with the. um. need for - consequences).
Celerity
(43,730 posts)niyad
(113,812 posts)advance.
electric_blue68
(15,012 posts)Women are people first.
I might have in my late '30s thought who am I to criticize
another's culture.
But not anymore. To hell with patriarchy!
North Shore Chicago
(3,340 posts)many Q's, incels Et al would LOVE it if they could get away with it in this country!
Remember when Shrub stated, "They hate us for our freedoms?" Riiiiight.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,874 posts)DFW
(54,498 posts)There are millions of Turks living here in Germany, some Arabs as well. My wife was a social worker here, and had to deal regularly with abused women whose families wanted to "correct" their behavior, and kill them if all else failed. So-called "honor killings" still happen, even here, and the killer family members are usually spirited out of Germany and the EU before they can be arrested.
To me, as a Westerner, I find it particularly shocking to see a young woman with a casual sweatshirt and tight jeans espousing this medieval set of social mores, and talking about killing a family member as if she was removing a hangnail. I have Turkish friends here in Germany who find this mentality appalling as well, but they are fully assimilated here. There are hundreds of thousands who are not, and growing up as the female child of such families sometimes does indeed have fatal consequences.