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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhen I started working at age 16 in 1962, the minimum wage was $1.25 per hour.
I delivered milk to people's homes from a local dairy. I worked three hours a day, six days a week, from 5 AM to 8 AM. I was a high school kid, and the job was a great one for me. It was close to being a half-time job, and didn't interfere with my school work or social life.
After three months of that, I had learned the milk route, had memorized most customers' regular orders, and began delivering on my own, driving the milk delivery truck as well as carrying customer orders to their doors.
So, I approached the owner of the dairy and asked for a raise, since I was now doing the work that two people had done before. The man who had been driving the truck was now working inside the dairy and had gotten a raise in pay.
The owner of the dairy objected to giving me a raise, since "You're just a kid. I pay kids minimum wage."
I said, "Well, I am just a kid, but I'm driving the truck and making the deliveries by myself now. You used to be paying an adult to drive the truck while I delivered the orders. Now, you're just paying me. I'm doing both jobs. I need $1.50 per hour."
The owner of the dairy said, "OK. That makes sense." I got the raise.
Minimum wage is just a minimum. It should be set at a level that allows a person to make a living when they start working. It should not be an end point. It's what you pay kids and beginners at a job. Once they learn the job and are more productive, you should be paying more than that to that person.
We need $15/hr. Now. But that's just the starting point. It is not a wage cap, or shouldn't be.
Kota
(901 posts)I don't know what it was for adults or even if there was one. I'm in Ill. I Pumped gas. The tips were pretty good.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,848 posts)Some other countries do.
SlogginThroughIt
(1,977 posts)But I think the state rates must be over the fed rate right?
Just_Vote_Dem
(2,802 posts)I was employed for the summer by the CETA (Comprehensive Employment and Training Act) program, designed for disadvantaged kids (I was poor growing up). I got to work with developmentally disabled teenagers. I loved the work and did it every summer until I was 18 and no longer eligible. Sadly I don't believe the program still exists.
jimfields33
(15,769 posts)At least raise it to that amount. Although Im not sure how many literally make 7.50, but that is a horrible wage.
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)Most places have discovered that nobody will work for that wage. Many states have higher minimum wages than the federal number.
Some places, however, can still find people who will work for minimum wage. They'll find better people who will be more productive if they raise that minimum wage, though.
Some business owners never learn that. They treat workers like disposable commodities. Such businesses should fail, and many of them do exactly that.
jimfields33
(15,769 posts)rog
(649 posts)"$1.25 in 1962 had the same purchasing power as $10.85 in 2021." In Wisconsin, where I live, minimum wage is $7.25.
Absolutely agree:
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)brewens
(13,574 posts)get you a small apartment and other expenses. You were lucky to have $20 bucks left over for the weekend, but you could go out partying on that. Not a chance you can support yourself like that on $7.25 these days.
Johnny2X2X
(19,038 posts)I worked for $3.35 an hour at Burger King. I remember getting in tight with my boss and knowing that he made something like $5.75 an hour and I was awe struck that he was working 46 hours a week, my 15 year old self couldn't imagine working that much and was unaware my dad was working 60 hours a week.
He was able to afford a decent apartment and a decent car, he could live. I was making $8 an hour in today's wages, basically some pocket money.
I actually worked another job after that making $2.60 an hour for a restaurant that had a waiver to pay their workers less than minimum wage.
FSogol
(45,476 posts)moved to another restaurant where my salary shot up to $7.50.
With that I had a nice apartment, a beater car, and put myself thru college.
yellerpup
(12,253 posts)The school knew who needed those jobs and I got one working both before and after school in the cafeteria. My dad had been laid off by the oil industry and was delivering orange drink door-to-door on commission and my mom was earning $5 per 12 hour shift working as a cook. My income was the highest and I was able to make the rent. I felt very proud until my father accused me of being a "Commie Dupe" for taking the job. I still paid the rent.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)I'm fine with shooting for $15/hour as many local governments have already established. Although, there are probably some exceptions that need to be made in rural areas, low cost-of-living areas, perhaps part-time student jobs, etc.
Heck, Medicare pays physicians different rates depending upon a formula that includes a base rate depending upon service performed, adjusted upward of downward depending upon factors like cost-of-living, cost of labor in area, etc.
Fortunately, about 66% of workers make more than $15 and hour. The median wage in 2019 was something like $19 an hour. Of course, other things need to be factored in such availability of affordable/subsidized health care, free/low-cost college and technical training, etc.
JenniferJuniper
(4,510 posts)on minimum wage jobs and a total of about 10k in student loans.
A private university at that. Not even something one can imagine today.
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)That's my opinion. I graduated from college in 1972, after a four year stint in the USAF. I managed on the $256/month GI Bill check, plus $100/month from my parents, who insisted that I return to college. I didn't have a job, although I earned some extra cash from trash picking and selling what I found at the local swap meet. Maybe an additional $200/month from that.
It was a state university, with state funding, of course. Used books, cheap housing shared with two others, and food made by myself. I didn't have any spending money, but we all survived somehow.
Such a thing would be impossible today. It should be possible.
49jim
(560 posts)addition to my newspaper route (Newsday on Long Island which at the time was 5 cents a day, 30 cents a week)
I delivered 100 papers....many customers paid 30 cents at the end of the week.....some customers paid 35 cents.....
the extra nickel was my tip. There was no salary from Newsday so my weekly income was 4-5 dollars which was a big deal in 1963 for a 14 year old. Anyway back to my first real job".....I worked as a stock boy in a small mom and pop corner store nearby. My salary was $1.15 an hour. This was my first understanding about the value of a dollar.....the six-packs of beer that I was stacking in the cooler cost $1.15. Although I wasn't old enough to purchase beer...I realized that it took an hour to earn enough to buy a six-pack. I remember the year 1963 because I was working there when President Kennedy was killed and watched the funeral on a small B&W tv they had in the store.
Oh.....yes, the minimum wage today should be $ 15.00 an hour!
sanatanadharma
(3,699 posts)At that time, bread could be found for 20-25 cents a loaf and gasoline was about the same price per gallon.
Over the years, it seems to me, a loaf of bread and a gallon of milk have maintained this similar cost relationship.
Ocelot II
(115,674 posts)It paid $1.10 an hour (it was one of those jobs that wasn't covered by the minimum wage law). A couple of years later I got a union job that paid $4 an hour. I thought I was rich - at least I could afford my own apartment and buy a used car.
elevator
(415 posts)But, I did get all the fries, milkshakes and double cheese burgers I could at, which was a considerable amount. Were fast food franchises exempted?
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)Where were you? Different states had different minimum wages. Sometimes restaurant workers weren't included in the laws.
elevator
(415 posts)Worked construction two years later and got $2 an hour.
elevator
(415 posts)Worked construction two years later and got $2 an hour.
In the late seventies I made $18 an hour as a truck driver....teamsters.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)unc70
(6,110 posts)brewens
(13,574 posts)bucked bales. The meals were worth half a days work. I'd make it as far as the couch if I ate like that today. I don't remember what I was paid. A buck an hour sounds right. I was no city kid wuss though. My job at home in the summer was moving irrigation pipe setups in a big cucumber farm every evening. Bucking bales was about the same.