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turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 06:52 PM Feb 2021

A Bristling Standoff Rattles Gun-Friendly Vermont

In Pawlet, Vt., where a landowner opened a tactical weapons training site, a zoning dispute has escalated into something more dangerous.

By Ellen Barry

Feb. 23, 2021

PAWLET, Vt. — Fear has gradually spread in the town of Pawlet.

In the hills west of town — which is where the trouble started — the houses are remote, separated by wind-scoured stretches of cropland. Those people are the most jittery.

Some of them have installed cameras with infrared lights so they could pick up figures that might be moving in the dark around their houses. A few have invested in bulletproof vests.

Jack Begg contributed research.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/23/us/vermont-gun-range-pawlet-zoning.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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A Bristling Standoff Rattles Gun-Friendly Vermont (Original Post) turbinetree Feb 2021 OP
Typical gun nut bully terrorizing his neighbors. SunSeeker Feb 2021 #1
The townsfolk may well feel fragile empedocles Feb 2021 #2
They are gun nuts because they are nuts StClone Feb 2021 #3
I can't say what I would like to say. Lars39 Feb 2021 #4
Agree Karma13612 Feb 2021 #6
Being from NY-21 Karma13612 Feb 2021 #5
More from the article DBoon Feb 2021 #7
I think this is a model for many more to come intrepidity Feb 2021 #8
More on this via VTDigger. . . DinahMoeHum Feb 2021 #9

StClone

(11,683 posts)
3. They are gun nuts because they are nuts
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 07:06 PM
Feb 2021

Doesn't surprise me. I pretty much expect the lunacy when "the gun" is No.1 thing in life.

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
4. I can't say what I would like to say.
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 07:12 PM
Feb 2021

But having let a militia train there? Militias are supposedly illegal in all 50 states. The FBI needs to do their fucking job.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
6. Agree
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 07:14 PM
Feb 2021

I have read that they are monitoring and aware of the situation.

But, to the public, it seems as if nothing is happening.

It’s a very sad situation with local land owner’s lives disrupted. I am guessing many would love to move away but they fear they will have trouble selling their homes now.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
5. Being from NY-21
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 07:12 PM
Feb 2021

I have been following this for some time. It is quite frightening. Even the Gov of VT is avoiding the whole issue. I can’t say for sure, but I think he just wants to avoid confrontation. Everyone is scared of this guy. They can’t seem to stand up to him. Reminds me of another maniac that we allowed to be our President.

We need to say no.

DBoon

(22,356 posts)
7. More from the article
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 07:20 PM
Feb 2021
She is talking about Daniel Banyai, a 47-year-old New Yorker who, attracted by Vermont’s relaxed gun laws, bought 30 acres in this rural town of around 1,400 and transformed it into his dream project, a training camp where visitors could practice shooting as if engaged in armed combat.

Whether those fears are warranted is a question that has preoccupied Vermont law enforcement for months. Certainly, the dispute has escalated over three years from a zoning matter into something more combustible, as Mr. Banyai resisted the town’s demands to dismantle his weapons training facility, Slate Ridge. Anonymous threats to his opponents have appeared online.

intrepidity

(7,294 posts)
8. I think this is a model for many more to come
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 07:50 PM
Feb 2021

He's exploiting loopholes and, just like The Former Guy, skirting informal "rules" and norms. These guys are a cancer in our society, and they are digging in for the long haul. They want "freedom" and lack of regulation, and ironically, they are exactly, precisely the reason and cause for eventual draconian measures that must be taken to stop them.

I expect the next decade to be largely defined by them, unfortunately.

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