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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 09:56 PM Feb 2021

E. Jean Carroll: The Trump Siblings are DOOMED. Mary Trump's case is DEVASTATING.


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E. Jean Carroll
@ejeancarroll
The Trump Siblings are DOOMED.

Mary Trump's case is DEVASTATING.

I am honored to join hands with @MaryLTrump and watch the great @kaplanrobbie and @John_c_Quinn TROUNCE THE TRUMPS.

This document is from Mary's motion:



Robbie Kaplan
@kaplanrobbie
We at @KaplanHecker are honored to be representing @MaryLTrump in this lawsuit seeking justice for a fraud perpetrated by the Trump siblings on their own niece. @eelarson https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-27/trump-hid-fraud-on-inheritance-for-years-niece-tells-judge
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E. Jean Carroll: The Trump Siblings are DOOMED. Mary Trump's case is DEVASTATING. (Original Post) soothsayer Feb 2021 OP
Makes my day!! Thx for posting Thekaspervote Feb 2021 #1
CAN'T READ THE ARTICLE. THEY MAKE US PAY TO READ Trueblue1968 Feb 2021 #13
Do you pay for a newspaper or magazine? Or do you read them for free? PJMcK Feb 2021 #37
I pay for as many subs as I can afford Random Boomer Feb 2021 #43
What we used to pay for a newspaper Mr.Bill Feb 2021 #54
As a former journalist, thank you. Blue_playwright Feb 2021 #55
i don't get paper. hubby and i can't afford it. my SS comes to 650 a month after my medicare payin Trueblue1968 Feb 2021 #56
Thankfully, you're DU Star member! All the news you need is here. PJMcK Feb 2021 #58
Just a friendly FYI White Fox Feb 2021 #45
Thanks for the pointers mrsadm Feb 2021 #51
Here's the article for you. jtb653 Feb 2021 #52
thank you so much. Trueblue1968 Feb 2021 #57
Sweet Jesus Blue Owl Feb 2021 #2
+1 live love laugh Feb 2021 #46
I try not to give that monster any more air but this is worth it. nolabear Feb 2021 #3
Greed is contagious. Laelth Feb 2021 #4
It's laid out pretty much as is "The Sting." Harker Feb 2021 #5
K&R MustLoveBeagles Feb 2021 #6
This is what he did to his own family FakeNoose Feb 2021 #7
No. Trump makes Satan look moral. nt leftyladyfrommo Feb 2021 #9
Yes, and Satan Sur Zobra Feb 2021 #33
I ave to agree 100% triron Feb 2021 #50
There's something in the Bible along the lines of catrose Feb 2021 #11
Kaplan is a hell of a lawyer dsc Feb 2021 #8
Please prove it and get a judgement. We badly need accountability. nt Evolve Dammit Feb 2021 #10
This x 1000 Ferrets are Cool Feb 2021 #16
I hope Mary ends up owning Marm-a-Lardo. n/t TygrBright Feb 2021 #12
She can turn it into a PTSD clinic for kids separated from their parents. meadowlander Feb 2021 #21
I would prefer OldBaldy1701E Feb 2021 #36
Sweet! oasis Feb 2021 #14
While I don't doubt her clim, I won't make a judgement from paragraph headings brooklynite Feb 2021 #15
She wrote a book, if you are interested Hekate Feb 2021 #27
Again, I'm not questioning her claim... brooklynite Feb 2021 #28
After the past 5 years I am too exhausted to get excited about much of anything... Hekate Feb 2021 #34
X1000!!! n/t 7wo7rees Feb 2021 #39
Agreed PJMcK Feb 2021 #38
K&R smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #17
This seems like the film "The Sting". BigmanPigman Feb 2021 #18
ANYTHING to upset his applecart is more than welcome. Much more. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #19
Nuclear *waste* family soothsayer Feb 2021 #20
Oh, well played, sir. jaxexpat Feb 2021 #42
Let's hope it doesn't get thrown out because of the statute of limitations tikka Feb 2021 #22
Certainly what they're arguing, so yeah soothsayer Feb 2021 #23
Welcome to D.U. orangecrush Feb 2021 #47
What is the SOL for this kind of suit? Can any DU lawyer advise? grantcart Feb 2021 #48
Hope Mary wins. Joinfortmill Feb 2021 #24
I second that bdamomma Feb 2021 #59
These next few months are going to be so sweet to sit back and watch the fireworks, and see.... George II Feb 2021 #25
Revenge is a dish best served cold. I wish both women all the best.... Hekate Feb 2021 #26
Sadly, DJT and his children will have squandered what should be there. plimsoll Feb 2021 #29
Well of course! Aussie105 Feb 2021 #30
Children with cancer, taxpayers, pretty much everyone soothsayer Feb 2021 #32
And hidden everything in offshore accounts that can't be traced. NBachers Feb 2021 #31
Let's *go* for it, E.Jean&MaryT - UTUSN Feb 2021 #35
I thought Mary and her aunt had a good relationship, tavernier Feb 2021 #40
Here's a link to the lawsuit at the NYT radical noodle Feb 2021 #41
Wonder what kind of money we are talking here? 1/2 Billion? OverBurn Feb 2021 #44
I hope she's got a few bodyguards and a security net surrounding her. Talitha Feb 2021 #49
It's possible to download and read Mary Trump's lawsuit from NYT FakeNoose Feb 2021 #53
Love Mary !!! RANDYWILDMAN Feb 2021 #60

Trueblue1968

(17,217 posts)
13. CAN'T READ THE ARTICLE. THEY MAKE US PAY TO READ
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 10:50 PM
Feb 2021

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PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
37. Do you pay for a newspaper or magazine? Or do you read them for free?
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 09:37 AM
Feb 2021

Journalism isn't free. News sources are businesses. Some outlets require that you pay for their content. It's annoying but it's hardly a new thing. Besides, if you can't get news from one source, there are others.

By the way, if you're clever, there are simple ways around paywalls. Complaining isn't one of them.


ETA: Sorry to be snarky on a Sunday morning. I need more coffee.

Random Boomer

(4,168 posts)
43. I pay for as many subs as I can afford
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 11:15 AM
Feb 2021

Unfortunately, one of the reasons our political scene is rife with misinformation is that reputable new organizations charge for their news. They have to, because good reporting and editorial standards require funding, unlike the right-wing blogs that spout nonsense or the ones who are funded by right-wing millionaires.

Mr.Bill

(24,284 posts)
54. What we used to pay for a newspaper
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 03:26 PM
Feb 2021

was basically the cost of the paper and the printing. Advertising space is how they made money.
The biggest problem is the loss of classified ad space. Craigslist, Ebay and other internet sites is what's killing the newspapers. A lot of websites make money with advertising. It's the newspapers and magazines that charge to read their websites. Most of them were too late and clumsy to go on the internet. To this day, newspapers and magazines along with TV news have the worst and most cumbersome websites. I read a local News website that is internet only, and frankly works far better than the website for the printed news and it's free. They make money from advertising.

Trueblue1968

(17,217 posts)
56. i don't get paper. hubby and i can't afford it. my SS comes to 650 a month after my medicare payin
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 06:49 PM
Feb 2021

would you have me go without food. why do you snark at me. i can't understand some people.
we do what we can if giving to charity. reading bloomberg 8 times a year doesn't merit. sorry to see the criticism against me

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
58. Thankfully, you're DU Star member! All the news you need is here.
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 08:11 PM
Feb 2021

In my ETA, I apologized for my early morning snarkiness. I meant no offense and I'm sorry if you interpreted my response to your post to be a criticism. I only meant to point out that people have always had to pay for information.

It would be heartbreaking if you were to forgo food for a newspaper or anything else, for that matter. There are numerous ways to work around a paywall, as I wrote. Other posters responded with some ideas, too.

We cannot expect the internet to be entirely free, not counting one's monthly connection fees. The content that we all consume online is created by people like you and me who need to make a living, too. They deserve to be compensated for their writings and other creations shared on the internet.

In any event, peace. I'm sorry for upsetting you.

 

White Fox

(69 posts)
45. Just a friendly FYI
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 11:28 AM
Feb 2021

One can de-fang both Bloomberg and WaPo by turning off javascript.

'Cause we're doing so much damage spreading news.

mrsadm

(1,198 posts)
51. Thanks for the pointers
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 02:33 PM
Feb 2021

I pay for the NY Times and the Washington Post and The Economist and The New Yorker. (and have done so for years). I don't pay for anything I think I may read 1-2 times a year.

I think it's ridiculous to ask a viewer to pay for a subscription without even letting the person read 1-2 articles. With most publications, how do I even know if I want to subscribe if I'm not allowed to even see 1 article? I HATE that arrogant presumption.
Especially when the site is "localcrap.tinytown.com" which I will likely never visit again.

Flames won't change my mind.

jtb653

(45 posts)
52. Here's the article for you.
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 02:33 PM
Feb 2021

Was able to copy and paste everything except for an accompanying photo of Drumph (but who needs
to see that).
==================================================================================
Bloomberg

Business

Trump Hid ‘Fraud’ on Inheritance for Years, Niece Tells Judge
By Erik Larson

February 26, 2021, 7:28 PM EST

Donald Trump’s niece is balking at the former president’s claim that she waited too long to file her multi-million dollar fraud suit against him, saying she would have sued sooner if he hadn’t covered his tracks so well.

Mary Trump on Friday asked a judge to deny Donald Trump’s motion to dismiss the suit, which she filed in September against her uncle and his siblings, Robert Trump and Maryanne Trump Barry. She claims they conspired to skim tens of millions of dollars off her stake in the family business for decades after her father died and left them as her fiduciaries.

The suit by the daughter of Donald Trump’s late older brother, Fred Trump Jr., is one of several serious legal threats the former president faces as a private citizen. If the case in New York state court in Manhattan survives, he could be deposed under oath by the end of the year or early 2022.

The fight may hinge on New York’s statute of limitations, which is two years from the time a victim “discovered the fraud, or could with reasonable diligence have discovered it.” Donald Trump, Maryanne Trump and the estate of Robert Trump, who died in August, argue their niece could have sued much earlier based on documents they handed over in other legal disputes, including a bitter court fight over the family patriarch’s 1999 will.

But Mary Trump, a psychologist and author who wrote a damning tell-all book about the family last year, argues she didn’t discover the alleged decades-old scheme until October 2018, when the New York Times published a Pulitzer Prize-winning report on Donald Trump’s finances. The documents handed over to Mary Trump in earlier legal matters were either unrelated to the alleged fraud or contained false information that couldn’t have tipped her off, she said

The Trump siblings “cannot avoid accountability for their fraud simply because they thought that they had gotten away with it years ago,” Mary Trump’s lawyer Roberta Kaplan said in Friday’s filing.

James Kiley, who represents Donald Trump and the estate of Robert Trump, didn’t immediately return a call seeking comment. Maryanne Trump Barry’s lawyer, Gary Freidman, declined to comment.

Mary Trump argues her uncles and aunt shouldn’t benefit in court just because they successfully duped her for years.

“The offensiveness of defendants’ past conduct -- stealing tens of millions of dollars from their own niece -- is perhaps surpassed only by the chutzpah of their current arguments for dismissal,” Mary Trump said.

The fraud was only uncovered because three investigative reporters at the New York Times had “access and information that Mary did not and never could have had,” including “tens of thousands of pages of confidential records” and invoices, as well as interviews with Fred Trump’s former employees and advisers, according to Mary Trump’s brief.

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
3. I try not to give that monster any more air but this is worth it.
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 10:08 PM
Feb 2021

I hope his CPAC bubble is burst. 😃

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
4. Greed is contagious.
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 10:09 PM
Feb 2021

Donald was naturally greedy. His living siblings conspired to screw over Fred Jr.’s children ... because they could. I hope Mary can get some justice.

-Laelth

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
7. This is what he did to his own family
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 10:23 PM
Feb 2021

Can you imagine how callous, greedy and fraudulent he can possibly be towards everyone else? Chump really is the spawn of Satan, there can be no other explanation.

catrose

(5,065 posts)
11. There's something in the Bible along the lines of
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 10:45 PM
Feb 2021

“So you’re good to your family and your tribe. So what? Any heathen is.” Jesus goes on to explain why his way is different, the loving your enemies and strangers stuff that you don’t hear much about these days.

T doesn’t even meet Jesus’ heathen level of goodness.

Not that I was ever tempted to vote for him, but the absolute bottom line for me was his canceling his nephew’s health insurance while his nephew’s newborn was in intensive care.

dsc

(52,160 posts)
8. Kaplan is a hell of a lawyer
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 10:24 PM
Feb 2021

this isn't some ambulance chaser or some conspiracy nut. If she is pushing this case, there almost certainly is something there. It should be noted, that Windsor, while it was clearly a civil rights case, it was a case about taxes and inheritance (she was suing for having to pay inheritance taxes that a man married to a woman wouldn't have had to pay) meaning there is some expertise in that firm in regards to those matters.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,126 posts)
36. I would prefer
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 09:15 AM
Feb 2021

that she raze the entire property and then build a nice medical facility for all those poor folks who were separated by that stupid procedure. I don't want one bit of plastic siding left from that temple to greed.

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
28. Again, I'm not questioning her claim...
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 12:14 AM
Feb 2021

(We have a mutual friend; I know some of the details). But I’m not going to get excited about a legal argument based on a posting of paragraph headers.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
34. After the past 5 years I am too exhausted to get excited about much of anything...
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 03:19 AM
Feb 2021

But I do hope this causes Mary’s aunts and uncles a whole lot of grief, especially Unca Donald.

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
38. Agreed
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 09:43 AM
Feb 2021

Legal cases are not determined by newspaper headlines.

The nuts and bolts of Dr. Trump's claims will be adjudicated. Then we'll see how it all turns out.

One thing I do love is that Trump will spend the next years tied up in legal and financial cases. His life of grift is probably going to start collapsing around him.

The dumbest thing Trump ever did-- and the list is incredibly long!-- was run for public office. It exposed far too much of his criminality to survive scrutiny. I expect his kids will be complicit in much of the trouble which also makes me happy.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
18. This seems like the film "The Sting".
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 11:19 PM
Feb 2021

Whenever the scenes changed there was an illustration and a title that went with the narrative: like "The Wire".

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
19. ANYTHING to upset his applecart is more than welcome. Much more.
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 11:27 PM
Feb 2021

I hope Mary gets the cart, every last apple and whatever else there is left. F that (nuclear) family.

George II

(67,782 posts)
25. These next few months are going to be so sweet to sit back and watch the fireworks, and see....
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 12:04 AM
Feb 2021

....trump and his kids crash and burn.

Let's hope Mary winds up in possession of trump tower!

plimsoll

(1,668 posts)
29. Sadly, DJT and his children will have squandered what should be there.
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 12:26 AM
Feb 2021

They had to steal the money, it's just what they do.

tavernier

(12,383 posts)
40. I thought Mary and her aunt had a good relationship,
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 10:03 AM
Feb 2021

at least at some time. She writes in her book about getting together for lunches, etc. Apparently that was before she found out that the whole family was involved in screwing her. That part may be the saddest... money is just stuff, but when you lose your family and all the people you thought were on your side, that is a really bitter pill. She knew all along Donald was an ass, but I think she still counted on other family members to be supportive.

Talitha

(6,584 posts)
49. I hope she's got a few bodyguards and a security net surrounding her.
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 02:01 PM
Feb 2021

IMO that murderous family wouldn't give a second thought to making sure she fell out of a window or sipped some tea.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
53. It's possible to download and read Mary Trump's lawsuit from NYT
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 02:51 PM
Feb 2021

This was published on the NY Times website on September 24, 2020:
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/mary-trump-lawsuit/c50f4719d61f9c9a/full.pdf

It's a 52-page PDF document with many details and a complete synopsis of the lifelong fraud perpetrated against Mary Trump and her brother. Ever since her father died in 1981 when she was 16 years old, the Chump family, headed by Donald, has been cheating her out of her rightful inheritance. It wasn't until the NYT put the story together and published their findings in 2019 that Mary even realized what the family had done to her and her brother.

According to Mary's book which I read a few months ago, the Times reporters were able to see financial documents following the death of Mary Anne Trump (Donald's mother) and that's what got the ball rolling. The statue of limitations should not come into play here because the fraud was happening during most of Mary's life since the age of 16.

It's a very interesting read. Maryanne Trump Barry (Mary's aunt) is not a good-guy in this story. None of them are.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,672 posts)
60. Love Mary !!!
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 08:43 PM
Feb 2021

Can't believe she has to be related to those grifters. She is smart well spoken a success and everything the opposite of the DON side of the family.

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