Should Donald Trump be indicted for inciting an insurrection...?

[kentuck]

...when we get a new Attorney General?

Or is it impossible to do because it would further divide our country?

Would his supporters rebel if Trump was charged with a crime? Should that be a reason to overlook a crime against our country?

Or should the evidence be brought out slowly and attempt to persuade the non-believers by a gradual process?

There is no doubt that the efforts to overthrow the last election are not going to stop. It is more of a threat with each passing day.

What should the Justice Department do?

[Duncanpup]

1. Yes he should

Reasoning is we need to stop any future attempt by GQP. They did not succeed yet they have learned from their mistakes from 1/6 and without prosecution they will become emboldened.

[catrose]

16. Ditto

[rampartc]

2. arrest, certainly, and a gag order

this crime is worthy of a court martial , convened immediately. ship him and ALL of his co conspirators to guantanamo.

[sop]

3. Yes, but I suspect Trump issued secret pardons for himself and his family.

He abused just about every other presidential power while in office, I can't imagine he wouldn't take advantage of this constitutional privilege and leave himself exposed to future federal prosecution.

[Botany]

4. He should be but I doubt that he will after all he just:

Helped to pay for the riot/insurrection by using money from his campaign.

Invited people to the riot/insurrection and gave out the day, the date, the time and the place for the violence
to mouth breathing idiots who thought they were fighting for their "free-dumbs" and "stopping the steal."

Had a pre-riot pep party.

Blamed ANTIFA for the actions of his supporters.

Decapitated the D.C. National Guard so they could not come and help. Trump's newly appointed head of the DoD.
This memorandum responds directly to your January 4, 2021 memorandum regarding the District of Columbia request for District of Columbia National Guard (DCNG) support in response to planned demonstrations from January 5-6, 2021. You are authorized to approve the requested support, subject to my guidance below and subject to consultation with the Attorney General, as required by Executive Order 11485.

Without my subsequent, personal authorization, the DCNG is not authorized the following:

* To be issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, riot control agents or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor.

* To interact physically with protesters, except when necessary in self-defense or defense of others.

* Prohibited from sharing “equipment with law enforcement agencies” or seeking support from any non-DC National Guard units.

* Forbidden from conducting “searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity.”

* Forbidden from using “Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance assets” or to conduct “Incident, Awareness and Assessment activities.”

* No helicopters or “any other air assets.”

When told of the violence by Rep. McCarthy who was inside the Capitol at the time refused to help.

Was actively planning a post riot order of martial law so he could stay in power and avoid his upcoming criminal
and civil judgements.

[spanone]

5. If not we're doomed for another one.

[MiHale]

6. He definitely should be indicted, prosecuted and Saddamized...nt

[FBaggins]

7. Perhaps neither

Indicted if there’s a reasonable chance of conviction.

[malaise]

8. He should be indicted for way more than inciting an insurrection

He was the head of the planning committee

[BSdetect]

9. Yes, and the fact we have to ask about this is rather alarming

[malaise]

10. What is more alarming is the excitement about the treasonous

terrorist in chief's CPAC speech today. He should be ostracized until the start of his criminal proceedings.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

11. Yes

[Maxheader]

12. stumpy should have entered a fed pen...

Way before 16'...

[Hotler]

13. Charge him with something. I don't believe for a second

that him or members of his family didn't steal shit from the White House when they left. I don't care if it's petty theft.

[BSdetect]

26. What about Biden releasing the interpreter who was in Helsinki to tell all?

[machoneman]

14. How in hell could we be further divided? Geez, the CPAC speakers have asked for more insurrection!

[melm00se]

15. Does a not guilty verdict

during an impeachment trial attach the prohibition against double jeopardy?

[Pepsidog]

19. No double jeopardy attaches to criminal proceedings, not impeachment which is political.

[niyad]

21. There was NO guilty verdict

[Pepsidog]

17. Be like Nike "Just Do It".

[Hamiam73]

18. Charge,indict, and prosecute

And when his koolaide drinking cult breaks the law defending him..charge, indict, prosecute. Repeat as needed until order is restored. No one is above the law. Our elected officials, judges, police, military ect, swore an oath to the Constitution. Hold them to the letter of the law. Why wouldn't this be the course of action?

[niyad]

25. Welcome to our DU family. I love your "Rainbow Supremicist."

[Hamiam73]

30. Thank You!!

All the credit goes to Dad. He was Progressive before it was even a thing. He always told me, "dammit boy, you always do things the hard way". Yes I do, Dad. Not because they are hard, but because they are right. Dad is still alive and well within me. The fight for right will continue as long as I breath.

[h2ebits]

29. Well said. . . .

and I completely agree with you.

[speaknow]

20. As you can see the Dems have there own problem

Some don't want to raise the minimum wage.
First things first, the AG or who ever has to get
rid of all Repubnazi's, clear them out all of them
if not it will be same old same old. There has to
be a clean sweep of all of them, if not they will
get in the way of everything as they quietly take
orders from the "Golden Statue".
I want to see Biden fire that DeJoy and if those
Governors say you can't then fire them too!

[PatSeg]

22. There has to be accountability

We watched so many people both in DC and the financial sector go Scott-free after the disastrous Bush administration. Not holding people accountable only incentivizes them and others to do more of the same.

Some people learn their lesson and turn their lives around, but there are many who seem to have no remorse and repeat the same misdeeds and crimes over and over again. That in turn sends a message to others that its okay to bend or break the law, because there will be no consequences.

If Trump's crimes are put on a shelf and ignored, you can be sure that the next tyrant will probably be much worse. Its not like this was Trump's first offense, he's been breaking the law his entire adult life. People should not have expected him to do otherwise as president.

[PufPuf23]

23. If Trump is not indicted and convicted, there will be another insurrection,

probably more effective than Trump's latest failure.

As long as the GOP is the party of white nationalists that claim to be Christian, the Constitutional USA is at risk. The current GOP is focused on derailing the Biden administration and in general sabotaging the nation and Democratic Party to gain and then permanently secure power in an authoritarian oligarchy.

We should never forget that we are in at best a cold civil war for the indefinite future.

[ancianita]

24. Why is this in doubt? Yes. After the commission finishes its report. That alone is gradual enough.

Over time, many of the party and cult have left, helped by younger family and friends to see the broader truth. Any delusionals left cannot be swayed and no time and energy should be wasted on them.


How I see this working, though I'm not a lawyer:
The several interim state level investigations and indictments are short term criminal justice against the those on the other side who would use politics as a racket (or 'politics,' as they say) along with their funders and accessories after the fact.

But what the commission does is for national history; Congress passes laws based on its findings;
what the DOJ does is codify Congress' laws into precedence establishment that hardens the rule of law.

There can be no more corporate, fascist gaming of rule of law.

[h2ebits]

27. Charge him!!

He failed at his attempted coup and hasn't given up yet. He has a small loud group and the rest of us, regardless of party affiliation, will continue to go about our daily business of survival and taking care of ourselves and family. Now is the time for us to recognize that "We the People" actually hold the power and we must wield it to take our country back to safety.

The military will hold, as someone said here a while back, and we now have a President who is prepared and willing to make sure that Trump's "militia" will be put down. Why do you think the fence at the Capitol building is still up and the National Guard is still in Washington DC?

The Democratic Party as a whole and in every state and municipality needs to take control of the news, repeat the truth over and over, and overwhelm the false and deliberate lies. The truth needs to be spoken loudly using every tool at our disposal and I do mean every tool. I, for one, use Facebook as my tool for reaching people with as much truth as I can and there are others that do the same. Twitter is a tool. TikTok is a tool. Radio talk shows are a tool. Standing on street corners as "town criers" is a tool. Whatever we've got--use it!

We cannot allow the fascists to take control of this country! It starts with Trump and we need to eliminate Trump's loudspeaker and put him away. Then we need to chip away the rest of the people who are trying to destroy our democracy.

[Greybnk48]

28. The dividing our country ship has sailed. He deserves to be indicted,

and it would set an example as a deterrent in the future. He should not walk after what he's done. Did he incite the riot? Just watch the video and look at the save the date emails and tweets. It's open and shut.

[kentuck]

31. What would be the plus and minus if he were charged and indicted?

What would be the excuse for not indicting?

Would it not be best for our country for all citizens to see that no one is above the law?

[GoCubsGo]

32. It's one of many things he needs to be indicted for.

[Ani Yun Wiya]

33. Yes indeed

For that as well as a long list of other offenses almost too numerous to list...

[Blue Owl]

34. Hells yeah!