If you have loved ones who have become victims of the republican

[Beachnutt]

fox news trump cult like my family members, I ask how do we get through to them ?
People fell victim to cult leaders like Jim Jones and many others through the years the really sad part about it is people do not know they are a cult victim until its too late such as the insurrectionist that will be reflecting on their choice for years as they sit in prison.
How will we get through to our loved ones ?
Are we just forced to sit by and watch them do this ?

[SoonerPride]

1. This is an important question that deserves much discussion

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/01/can-trumps-cult-of-followers-be-deprogrammed/amp

“So Many Great, Educated, Functional People Were Brainwashed”: Can Trump’s Cult of Followers Be Deprogrammed?

[Beachnutt]

2. Thank you for sharing that article

[Chainfire]

5. I don't think so. They close their ears and minds to anything that challenges their belief system.

They are like the German camp guards who wore belt buckles, with a slogan that translate to "God is With Us." So therefore anything that they do is holy.

[SWBTATTReg]

3. What can you do in reality? Really. What can you do? After all, they are grown up adults (well,

most of us), with a brain that functions (somewhat reasonably), and etc., and function like the rest of us 95% of the time. Alcoholics are like this too. My sister, god rest her soul, was an alcoholic, and we tried everything. We couldn't force her to stay in rehab, we couldn't force her to commit herself to a full fledged treatment program, etc. You can't arrest them, you can't lock them up, etc. It's frustrating, believe me, I know. And I understand too, why we can't lock them up and such, they do have rights, but sometimes...

Best wishes to you ... my only advice to you that may help is to join up w/ others like you, that have the same issue(s), the same concerns, they can perhaps offer you some good solid advice, a sounding board when things get tough, etc.

[Chainfire]

4. I have handled it by not speaking to one of my sisters and her husband for years.

They are typical, South Alabama, Christian, Republicans. I still love her, and wish her well, but I can not tolerate the constant pounding and needling on both religion and politics. Since they won't shut up, I just don't listen. They show my wife and I no respect, and that is one thing I demand from people I associate with. It is a shame, we used to be very close.

[Beachnutt]

7. Same here, 3 sisters and extended family that I was very close to up until

this fox brietbart limbaugh trump crap came about.

[mtngirl47]

6. They won't stop watching.

They just keep getting sucked in to the crazy.

I still have contact with my family but we have a rule to only discuss our family members and the weather. (Although the weather has been limited to "it's raining" or "it's snowing".....God forbid I say anything about extreme weather trends, because they see that as code for fake climate change.)

[doc03]

8. You don't get through to them don't waste you time. Well

maybe if you locked them in your basement with a TV
that does not carry Fox, Newsmax or oan for a week.

[KT2000]

9. I am noticing the right

is using the same concepts and language the left has used to describe them. They are now taught that the non-trumpers have been brainwashed and the mainstream media is propaganda. We are the fascists and want to destroy democracy.
I do not have much hope they can see the light nor do I see how this country can move forward with such a strong division.

I asked a friend who had gotten herself out of a religious cult how she did it. She said she first realized she did not like the person she had become and her greatest obstacle to leaving was knowing she would be alone. She thought her old friends and family had written her off so she would be all alone. What she found was they were so glad she was back she was never alone. From that, I take it that we should let them know we are there when they want to "leave the cult."

[JI7]

10. I think most of those people were racists , anti semites and other similar

things to begin with .

That's why when they hear this stuff it appeals to them.

[MustLoveBeagles]

11. They have to come to realization themselves

If they do be there for them. Otherwise there's not much you can really do.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

15. I left the assemblies of god

When I saw rank hypocrisy over and over. Then I saw the verse cherry picking,than I saw how they misused my spiritual skills,than like a fever the spell broke and I got myself and my ex out of there.

We knew alot about that church and spilled the beans on a Christian top ten website called seek God.

After we let that info out an unmarked van tried to run my ex and I into a car wreck. The van that went after us had no lisence plate no identity or on the front or the back

After we were not destroyed by the worksite they ran us into that had all those cement divider walls all over the road
And we got out alive they quickly vanished onto an off ramp.

Assemblies of God has affiliates in Scientology. And there are scientologists inside assemblies of god. They are connected cults.

They have been connected since the 80's and they still are today.

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/1982/september-17/did-two-scientologist-spies-come-in-from-cold.html

After we had those connections I saw in the 2000's posted online I really think someone in that cult tried to kill us.

These fundie cults are abusive,dangerous and criminal organizations that work with other cults you would not think are connected together. But they are.

People and names show up again and again in the cult circuit
When you see massive cults like Scientology and assemblies of god.

Assemblies of god were the ones pushing the golden teeth scam in south America among other places in the 2,000's

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2000-jan-25-mn-57606-story.html%3f_amp=true

They are vile people.

[MustLoveBeagles]

16. I was in Assembly of God as a child

Right after the Jessica Hahn payoff one of Baaker's henchmen moved on to our church. I don't remember the guys name but he was very tall. We left the church right before she divorced my stepdad. I was upset at the time but eventually realized she made the right decision. The hatred towards LGBQT community during the AIDS crisis sealed the deal. I couldn't get past the hate and hypocrisy. Found out later that a parishioner caught the minister having sex with his (the parishioners) wife in one of the pews. It was a big scandal and he was forced to resign. I won't ever go back. It's gotten so extreme.

I'm sorry you had to through what you did and am glad you got away from them. I'll bookmark this thread so I can read the link later.

[stillcool]

12. reminds me of an addiction...

there has to be a feel-good in it, or they wouldn't get in so deep. Having been swallowed up in a drinking and drugging lifestyle where out of touch with reality was the goal, it seems familiar. I think our environment sets us up in life with a set of parameters, and some of those require some rigid thinking and a lack of self. Sense of belonging, acceptance, being a part of. Heady stuff. Don't know how you force-fix that. As they say, you can't change anyone else, just change yourself.

[Chainfire]

13. The Republican Party has become a country club for haters

Anyone can join, just put you brain in the jar by the door.

[Politicub]

14. You accept that you will not get through to them. That's about the

only thing you can do.

You have very little influence over what people think. You can introduce topics during your conversations in an attempt to prompt them to think about something.

But try not to get disappointed when nothing you can say or do will cause them to change.

If they’re important to you, try to enjoy their company without talking about politics. If they cause you distress, then move on or reduce contact. No one receives martyr points for fretting over something you can not control.