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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 10:47 PM Feb 2021

Trump at CPAC sealed the deal, there really IS no turning back.

Of course, you could say January 6th was the deal breaker, or McConnell saying he'd "certainly" support Trump as the candidate in 2024.

Mission Accomplished, Cheetolini. We now have the Democratic Party, and the Party of Trump. The Republican Party no longer exists, and the majority of Congress members who are NOT on the "Trump train" are STILL top frigging terrified to stand up and purge him.

REGARDLESS of whether he runs, it will be Biden (if he chooses to run for a second term) versus Trumpism.

And my feeling is that the voters who turned out in 2020 will turn out again, and this time they'll bring friends. America knows what this clown, in person or by proxy, would do in the Oval Office. It's not going to happen.

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Trump at CPAC sealed the deal, there really IS no turning back. (Original Post) Miles Archer Feb 2021 OP
I hope he croaks after all the dummys give him all their money demtenjeep Feb 2021 #1
THAT would be awesome. ShazzieB Mar 2021 #21
Nah. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #2
While what you said is true, I would remind you that Trump didn't get the majority of the Claustrum Feb 2021 #4
I used to think Trump voters were generally older and going to fade away but there's many younger dem4decades Feb 2021 #3
MIssing the point. WarGamer Feb 2021 #5
I don't think he will have Russia in 2024 either. Maraya1969 Feb 2021 #6
The GOP's best and brightest Blue Owl Feb 2021 #7
CPAC 2021 did not help Trump 2024. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2021 #8
What is the fatal weakness? EndlessWire Feb 2021 #9
I submit the fatal weakness is time. Gore1FL Mar 2021 #13
GOPhers have nominated paste-eaters before..... lastlib Mar 2021 #14
Hahaha!! n/t EndlessWire Mar 2021 #19
hey MFM008 Mar 2021 #22
Well, I suspect the Little Dumber Boys started eating it in the '80s. Lower quality then.... lastlib Mar 2021 #23
The young Fascists draw the younger Nazi crowd to vote for the Oranges Fuhrer. magicarpet Feb 2021 #10
You're forgetting the GOP is putting laws in place that will ensure minority rule for decades. Nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2021 #11
They can't pass them in MI, WI, PA Jon King Mar 2021 #12
Amen to that Joinfortmill Mar 2021 #15
I think it's a mistake in the OP to wnylib Mar 2021 #16
Trump may well be dead by 2024. The real question is whether his authoritarian cult will endure Azathoth Mar 2021 #17
McConnell will support trump IF HE'S NOMINEE, he won't be. Hoyt Mar 2021 #18
This is not a change quakerboy Mar 2021 #20

ShazzieB

(16,281 posts)
21. THAT would be awesome.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 01:47 AM
Mar 2021

Imo, the best case scenario for this country is no Chump at all. Not in prison, even. Not anywhere on this earth, except 6 feet under its surface. The more money the cultists give to him before he dies, the less they'll have to give to anybody else.

TwilightZone

(25,428 posts)
2. Nah.
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 10:50 PM
Feb 2021

He barely got a majority in the straw poll after four years of 90% support from the GOP. He did much worse than he did in 2016.

His approval ratings have tanked, including with Republicans, and it's only going to get worse as the insurrection trials are started and more connections are made. Then there are the civil and criminal cases.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
4. While what you said is true, I would remind you that Trump didn't get the majority of the
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 10:58 PM
Feb 2021

votes in the republican primary in 2016 either. He usually won with 25-40% of the votes while the rest are split between multiple candidates and Trump won overwhelming on the delegate count because of their winner-takes-all system. So Trump doesn't need majority support to be the nominee in the 2024 republican primary if they repeat their mistake again. And I see no course correction on their part to prevent a repeat from Trump either.

And if Trump ends up winning the nomination, I am sure more than 90% of those republicans will support Trump again. Turtle said as much with his support of Trump if Trump gets the 2024 nomination.

dem4decades

(11,269 posts)
3. I used to think Trump voters were generally older and going to fade away but there's many younger
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 10:52 PM
Feb 2021

Trump voters. Racism and bitterness runs deep in the Republican/Trump Party.

WarGamer

(12,358 posts)
5. MIssing the point.
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 11:12 PM
Feb 2021

The Republican Party IS the Trump Party.

They've been moving this direction for the last 50+ years.

Never forget... Trump is merely the SYMPTOM of the infection.


OAITW r.2.0

(24,295 posts)
8. CPAC 2021 did not help Trump 2024.
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 11:17 PM
Feb 2021

It exposed his fatal weakness. Trump will not be running in 2024, but DJT,Jr. is a serious candidate....assuming he's not indicted for any number potential crimes.

EndlessWire

(6,460 posts)
9. What is the fatal weakness?
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 11:33 PM
Feb 2021

I disagree. His speech got plenty of traction with the audience. Plus, he as much as said he would be the opposition candidate in 2024. Maybe my prayers will work and he will be smote by G-d with a fatal happening, but I doubt it.

This man reeled off a list of his enemies, by name, which was too long for me to write down. He told these CPAC attendees that those people were enemies and needed to be dealt with. The last name on the list was Cheney. He plugged every hole, and twanged every note he needed to in order to control his party. He wants troublemakers purged from his Party.

He plans to actively campaign for 2022 candidates. He bragged that he was good as gold for endorsements. We know that one of the things that make Repubs tick is their own job security over their country's welfare. So, that was a point for Trump to make. These bozos will support him.

I don't see Trump, Jr. as being a viable candidate. Those two boys are stupid, and one of them appears to be an addict. Ivanka would be the likely Trump replacement.

Gore1FL

(21,102 posts)
13. I submit the fatal weakness is time.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 12:07 AM
Mar 2021

the crazies are dying off. The new voters are largely skeptical. A blue Utah isn't that far off. A blue TX is even closer.

lastlib

(23,159 posts)
14. GOPhers have nominated paste-eaters before.....
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 12:41 AM
Mar 2021

I give you Ronald Reagan, Dan Quayle (how could we forget HIM?), Sarah Palin, and Junior Bush, who collectively had the intellect of a cabbage. Such scintillating mentalities are a draw to the GQP.

lastlib

(23,159 posts)
23. Well, I suspect the Little Dumber Boys started eating it in the '80s. Lower quality then....
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 08:59 AM
Mar 2021

Just a hunch.

magicarpet

(14,121 posts)
10. The young Fascists draw the younger Nazi crowd to vote for the Oranges Fuhrer.
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 11:38 PM
Feb 2021

Brad Parscale started/compiled a monster young Fascists data base/ mailing list for trDump,

Steve Miller,

Fuentes,

James O'Keefe,

Jacob Wohl,

Donnie, Eric, Ivanka, Jared,

Proud Boys,

White supremacist militia groups,

Young college Republican groups then cross enroll in Fascist/Nazi groups.



Jon King

(1,910 posts)
12. They can't pass them in MI, WI, PA
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 12:02 AM
Mar 2021

Democratic governors so the bills won't pass where it matters. Maybe they can rig GA, maybe even AZ.

But Dems can still win by holding the states with Dem governors.

wnylib

(21,343 posts)
16. I think it's a mistake in the OP to
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 12:58 AM
Mar 2021

say that the GQPers in Congress are too terrified of the orange fascist to oppose him. It's not fear that keeps them in his camp. It's their agreement with what he represents and opportunism, knowing that he holds a strong following in red states.

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
17. Trump may well be dead by 2024. The real question is whether his authoritarian cult will endure
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 01:00 AM
Mar 2021

and transfer its allegiance to a more stable and competent psychopath.

We're now facing the same dilemma the Iraqis and Syrians were/are facing: Does Hillbilly ISIS crumble when its God-Emperor leaves them for the great Big Mac Palace in the sky, or does it remain intact, waiting for another leader to seize its controls and crash it straight into the heart of American democracy?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
18. McConnell will support trump IF HE'S NOMINEE, he won't be.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 01:08 AM
Mar 2021

But that’s not an endorsement. Although trump, if he’s still alive, might announce for primaries, don’t think he will win. He’s forever a miserable loser.

quakerboy

(13,917 posts)
20. This is not a change
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 01:39 AM
Mar 2021

Trump is their idol du jour, but there were plenty before him and will be plenty after him. The part of trump and the Republican party are NOT two different things. They are one and the same.

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