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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDear DUers: All thru this terrible COVID year I've felt a sense of community at DU.....
All thru this terrible year Ive felt a sense of community here as if we're holding each others hands, being encouraging voices in the darkness that Trump created.
Praying for the sick and terrified, grieving with the bereaved, upholding the weary and fearful. Rejoicing at each step forward each recovery, each vaccination. Being a community.
All of a sudden in the last few days, our family is turning on itself. In multiple posts and OPs we who have managed to work our way thru the distribution labyrinth are being accused of gloating, being disrespectful, being uncaring of others, hogging medication that should go to others, and of being unconscious of our white privilege.
How dare we have even a glimmer of hope and a sliver of relief?
No. Just no. This only serves Trump, who malignantly and maliciously killed at least half a million of our friends and loved ones. He and his family and cronies did this to us, and they did it on purpose.
Turn your wrath toward he who deserves it, turn your energies toward working somehow to make the system work better, and recognize that each person who is protected brings you and others closer to protection as well.
Please.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)yankeepants
(1,979 posts)pnwmom
(108,973 posts)I've managed to overlook posts like that but they don't belong here.
NJCher
(35,645 posts)A big increase in calls for jury duty here.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)Now that King Pumpkinhead is clearly back on the menu for 2024.
bdamomma
(63,812 posts)the lie machine and spewing hate and division, and blaming others not looking at those at the top who are responsible.
AZProgressive
(29,322 posts)This pandemic is a very complicated situation to solve but I put most of the blame on Trump who failed to manage it from the start.
Not sure the context on the "white privilege", I don't use that personally I focus on words like discrimination and there have been disparities.
Link to tweet
I hope everyone stays safe and have no problems with people receiving a vaccine if they can get one.
MiHale
(9,713 posts)There are times around here that remind me of sibling rivalry. Little disagreements become overly inflated arguments with no real malice meant, only emotional outbursts that shouldve evaporated quickly. Just like in a real family.
Its hard to wait for something when others are receiving what you want so badly. 2021 shouldve come with a warning...Extreme Patience Required.
pwb
(11,258 posts)understanding of how things work. The young are restless.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... but you're absolutely correct.
AZProgressive
(29,322 posts)This board trends older. Young people mostly use Twitter or Instagram rather than a board like this.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213017831
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Now that having to wait for vaccination is triggering all these resentful "you're privileged"/"I'm a victim" threads, it's obvious that it was inevitable.
It's just reality that some people are prone to resentment and victimization syndromes, especially prevalent among a lot of those drawn to groups and leaders dissenting against mainstream majorities. Government and party are always suspect, always turn out to be corrupt, always failing their duty. Always failing them.
Since overdoing the me-me-me aspect gets old fast, that chronic anxious resentment's most typically expressed as part of the general anger toward injustices suffered by genuine victim groups. Not that their anger at validated proof of what's wrong with a system or establishment also victimizing them isn't real. It is, very!
None of this is at all new, of course. The "it's about me" vaccination threads right now are a little different in that they reveal both an instant resentment toward others being "privileged" at their expense and a lack of awareness that most others waiting for vaccination don't share it.
Elessar Zappa
(13,944 posts)our posters trend older. Very few young post here. Theres been poll after poll on this site that show that. Most young progressives are on Twitter.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... being directed as those who do not deserve it. When I see people berating others because they dared to express joy or relief at receiving the Covid vaccine... it makes me heartsick. It's more than being a "wet blanket" or needlessly raining-on-someone's-parade... it's cruel. What good purpose does it serve to say and do things that would make a joyous person feel guilty (especially when they have NO REASON to feel that way)?
Rorey
(8,445 posts)The quicker we get people vaccinated, the better. Sure, the system is far from perfect, but to refuse to get the vaccine because we don't agree with the system will contribute to the problem.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)I'm one of those "you go first" people, and never one to try to shove my way through to be the first at anything. When we in Colorado moved to the phase of vaccination that includes me, I had the usual feelings.
Others must have voiced the same feelings to our governor, Governor Polis, because he then told us to stop feeling that way. He said, "When it's your turn, take the shot."
I also had expressed my feelings of guilt to my kids (all adults with families). My youngest son told me, "Mom, you're the one we've been worrying about!"
So I did. I got my first shot a week ago.
Do I feel privileged? Yes, I do. Every day.
We can look at the current rollout plan countless different ways, and from every angle we're going to conclude that it's not perfect. But it does no good to refuse the vaccine when it becomes available to us. I can see why it appears to be "gloating" to some. Another perspective is that when it becomes someone's turn to get the shot, they're doing their part to combat the virus. It's not something we should be ashamed of doing.
"Turn your wrath toward he who deserves it, turn your energies toward working somehow to make the system work better, and recognize that each person who is protected brings you and others closer to protection as well."
Yes. This. Thank you, Hekate, for posting this.
dameatball
(7,396 posts)son told me they were much relieved that I was getting the vaccine. To him it means that we are on the road to some future place, hopefully near future, where we can visit and interact more often. If I could change places with anyone in my family I would do so in a heartbeat. But I can't at this point. I do know that when they schedule me I am going to show up. Then I will continue to observe the masking, the safe distancing, etc., that I do now. It's the least any of us can do.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)But not nearly as good as I'll feel when everybody who wants a shot gets it.
One of my daughters-in-law told me at the beginning that she won't get the vaccine. She's pretty close to an "anti-vaxxer", but she's not a Republican. It's just her personal viewpoint, for whatever reason. When their daughter was born there were words, but my son put his foot down and insisted she get the usual vaccines that babies get, and that has happened. There have been no adverse effects, so I'm hoping that my daughter-in-law will change her way of thinking.
And, yes, I'm going to continue to follow all of the protocols too.
After I get that second shot I'm planning to inquire about volunteering with the vaccine effort. I didn't think there was anything I could do because I'm not a medical professional, but there was a LOT of staff at the drive-through clinic doing clerical type stuff, and I can do that. I want to do what I can.
dameatball
(7,396 posts)Rorey
(8,445 posts)I was thinking I should wait until after the second shot, but then I thought that it might take awhile to get my application processed, so I went on the health department site and signed up, so we'll see what happens.
dameatball
(7,396 posts)eventually feel like posting. Meanwhile, kudos and good luck.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)the disease.
My biggest concern is not that I would get Covid but that I would transmit it.
Sometimes a selfless act has a direct personal benefit.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)Transmitting it.
I've got a six month old grandson I haven't held. He really doesn't know me and it tears my heart out. With all five of the other grandchildren I was the primary caregiver when their parents worked, so I got to build a very special bond.
I don't know when it'll be okay for me to begin bonding with that little guy, and maybe it'll never be the way it was with the other five, but he's a very loved baby and I know that I'm just "bonus love" and that he's fine. Hopefully we can make up for lost time soon. His older brother, who is four, will hopefully show him that Grandma is a good person.
We're going to have great weather here this week, so I'm planning to go out to their house for an outside visit.
gademocrat7
(10,651 posts)You are absolutely right.
Walleye
(30,997 posts)This is what pisses me off. You hear some progressive or conservative Democrat criticize about anything. Next thing you know its on the lips of every Republican ratfucker out there. Quit giving them talking points, they cant think up any on their own.
gibraltar72
(7,500 posts)We've shared joys, sorrows, fears, triumphs and hopes.
panader0
(25,816 posts)He's 64, and I'm 70. He and his wife have both had both shots, while I haven't been able to get one yet.
He seemed almost apologetic and I told him not to feel that way. I'm happy for him. I'll get mine in due time.
March 17th will be the first anniversary of my isolation. I can handle it.
He hates trump as much as I do.
Pongo
(4,170 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,309 posts)My son has been vaccinated. I have not. Thank Gov. Beshear for putting teachers ahead of people like me, who can isolate without causing anyone a hardship.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)I, too, thought teachers should have a higher priority in my state. I am just sick about the effects on children from not being able to be in school, and the long term effects.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,309 posts)Because so many essential worker parents cannot afford child care, teachers and schools are their substitute.
The priority onion has to have health care workers at the center, with the next ring out being those who support health care and those most vulnerable to the virus who cannot isolate, e.g., nursing home patients. If schools were not starved for funds and if trustworthy child care were available to every working parent, teachers could conduct classes via network and not be pushed back into crowded classrooms before vaccinations are widely available.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)Laurelin
(518 posts)I was shocked at the backlash to the posts about vaccinations. It's true the system isn't fair, but a shot in anyone's arm is a small step towards normal for all of us. I've been thrilled by all the posts from people who have gotten a vaccine. I can't wait until we're all vaccinated.
RandiFan1290
(6,229 posts)Stop taking the bait.
Atticus
(15,124 posts)doing what they came here to do,
We all are tempted at times to believe that we have "the" correct approach to a certain issue. Such certainty is only justified---if ever---about events viewed in the rear view mirror.
I think I posted some time ago that "And then what?" was a question too seldom asked. Maybe "You may be right" is a remark too seldom stated.
Hugin
(33,111 posts)When distribution was turned over to the individual States and largely privatized.
I'm overjoyed when I hear of people receiving the vaccines. Anybody.
I've even helped others who I know are much higher on the list register to get vaccinated. Because, that's exactly why they are higher on the list. Due to advanced age, access, and other considerations they are more vulnerable than I am.
I'm happy to do it.
But, this is America and as we've seen, people here tend to turn any positive and difference into a wedge. Every effort is a fucking competition with winners/losers and God is assumed to be on the side of the winners.
Vaccination is not a ticket to forget.
Stinky The Clown
(67,776 posts)Silver Gaia
(4,542 posts)for gently saying what needed to be said.
malaise
(268,846 posts)bdamomma
(63,812 posts)Hekate.
mcar
(42,289 posts)GusBob
(7,286 posts)Front line health care worker here, IHS. Yesterday someone here posted that Native Americans have a certain measure of privilege because they were able to get the vaccine. I couldnt fucking believe it!
What does she fucking want? More genocide of a culture? Racism pure and simple. On DU!
Damn right Im angry Spitting mad
As for myself, Im 2500 miles away from home working in a clinic for my third year. Its challenging but this past year Ive had 8 weeks of quarantine, Rez lockdowns, clinic shutdowns, curfews, police checkpoints, the death of colleagues, the death of patients, loss of pay and loss of sanity.
Now I have to feel guilty for getting a vacs?
Fuck that
Hekate
(90,617 posts)Someone ... intends to wound us. It galled me no end that none of those blaming us for their victimhood managed to mention the Orange Monster. Strange, that.
By the way, thank you for the work you are doing. You are saving lives every day.
nolabear
(41,956 posts)Weve gutted our way through a godawful year. Ive tried so hard to deal with the stress of illness and near death, including my own, in isolation from the people I love and places that give me strength. The plague, combined with the monsters destruction of so much, the racial horrors...I think I held up well until I was sick and hospitalized myself, not COVID but near deadly.
I so needed some view toward the end, some hope. In a time when were constantly attacked by the right and the left seems to infight an alarming amount, I thought my vaccine was a symbol of progress, a cause for joy that the dam has broken and were on our way out of this unimaginable time of pain.
And yet, inflicting pain seems to be a goal, under the guise of being harmed by anothersI guess its good fortune. Im not sure being vulnerable to dying is fortune.
Ive come close to leaving DU over this. But I havent. I hold out hope for us too. I need to. Weve lost too much to throw the rest away.
I think there is a real intent to wound people under the guise of ... choosing words carefully, because of how mad its made me ... our common membership here.
We cant let that happen.
Hugin
(33,111 posts)How else am I going to find out if the vaccine tail is prehensile?
Oh, well... That and I'd miss you terribly.
nolabear
(41,956 posts)Best balance ever! Im hanging in. Life is a bloody roller coaster (the worst kind) right now so I may be a bit hasty in my threats.
Thanks.