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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:57 AM Mar 2021

Stunning new allegations further connect Trump to Russian mobsters and oligarchs


James S. Henry and David Cay Johnston, DC Report @ Rawstory
March 01, 2021

However we decide to account for Donald Trump's astonishing rise and fall, we now know that he was certainly no stranger to a sprawling netherworld of Russian gangsters and oligarchs.

Now there are stunning new allegations in federal court documents that this Russian criminal network with worldwide reach hired Felix Sater, one of Trump's closest associates, to hide a fortune stolen in Kazakhstan.

The central Asian country was once part of the Soviet Union. The stolen fortune cited in the lawsuit is the tip of the iceberg. Keep reading.

Stolen money amounting to $440 million was invested in America and run through trust funds maintained by Moses & Singer. The New York City law firm has long represented Sater, a Soviet-born American.

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https://www.rawstory.com/trump-sater/
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Stunning new allegations further connect Trump to Russian mobsters and oligarchs (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2021 OP
K&R...nt Wounded Bear Mar 2021 #1
It appears his main financial stream is now limited to deluded domestic terrorists. gordianot Mar 2021 #2
Hoping he will see the fate of former French President....I can hope!! Thekaspervote Mar 2021 #3
I was hoping for Romania Thunderbeast Mar 2021 #15
I would not be upset if he received the full "Il Duce" treatment. (n/t) Moostache Mar 2021 #20
They might need a bigger wall? Brainfodder Mar 2021 #27
It almost had to come to this DFW Mar 2021 #4
Putin disabled the US for a pittance. And is still active. Russia is at war with the US but no one Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #25
Kick dalton99a Mar 2021 #5
I'm so disappointed that Robert Mueller failed to look into this FakeNoose Mar 2021 #6
I remember reading that Rosenstein forbid Mueller from investigating Trump's finances. Lonestarblue Mar 2021 #8
Mueller didn't do his job. triron Mar 2021 #9
Mueller should be judged by history as having failed the Republic nt. Pluvious Mar 2021 #10
Suspect Bill FuBar got in Mueller's way when he was getting close to uncovering something.. KS Toronado Mar 2021 #12
Mueller was tethered bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #13
Muller was a good man...but we needed an Airborne Ranger, not a good Boy Scout ashredux Mar 2021 #7
There was the tired analogy of "mall cops and Navy SEALs" a while back... Moostache Mar 2021 #22
someone else said- you dont send a marine to do an assassin's job. mopinko Mar 2021 #32
Russian and other international crime bosses have been using Trump properties to hide and or ... Botany Mar 2021 #11
Given what we've already seen with Trump's shady ties dlk Mar 2021 #14
For every Trump tree you shake, Delmette2.0 Mar 2021 #16
As Nancy Pelosi has said dlk Mar 2021 #34
I remember reading, in either late 2015 or early 2016, an account of Felix Sater being very busy. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #17
Sater 2golddogs Mar 2021 #30
Big surprise. Martin68 Mar 2021 #18
A Mental Exercise For Right-Wing Lurkers: Do It, It's Good For You Vogon_Glory Mar 2021 #19
To have thought and introspection, once must first seek knowledge of self... Moostache Mar 2021 #23
Right wingers don't care. They would rather be Russian than Dem. Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #26
Yup! "They have t-shirts to that effect." Botany Mar 2021 #33
K&R for, kickety kick!1 ---I should live so long until his whole Russian Mob thing is all out there! UTUSN Mar 2021 #21
But but but the New York Governor. onecaliberal Mar 2021 #24
One reason I was so sure red don wouldn't win in 2016 not fooled Mar 2021 #28
That was the only money he could get when his empire crumbled in 2008 Warpy Mar 2021 #29
David Cay Johnston is one of the best reporters about Chump Hassler Mar 2021 #31
Great to read this so important thread. Johnston, Unger, et al, haven't given up. empedocles Mar 2021 #35
It's time we talk about this. 7wo7rees Mar 2021 #36

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
2. It appears his main financial stream is now limited to deluded domestic terrorists.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:11 AM
Mar 2021

I am still waiting for an Attorney General.

DFW

(54,358 posts)
4. It almost had to come to this
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:50 AM
Mar 2021

In the free market, no bank in its right mind, and no bank officer in his or her right mind would agree to lend hundreds of millions to a deadbeat like Trump unless there is a "higher power" behind the transaction, and one who has an ulterior motive. If you are the leader of a Russia far too weak to conduct a successful armed invasion of North America, and you can disable the government of the USA for less than a billion dollars, what greater bargain can you possibly imagine? And you don't fire a single shot or lose a single soldier.

Now THERE is an offer you can't refuse.

Irish_Dem

(46,940 posts)
25. Putin disabled the US for a pittance. And is still active. Russia is at war with the US but no one
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 02:09 PM
Mar 2021

seems to notice.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
6. I'm so disappointed that Robert Mueller failed to look into this
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 12:22 PM
Mar 2021

The facts were suggested, and suspicions of law-abiding Americans were stirred up long ago concerning Chump's Russian connections. Long before he declared himself a candidate for the presidency, Chump was already a candidate for federal prison due to the money-laundering services he provided for the Russian mob.

Why didn't Mueller explore the connection between Chump and the Russian mafia? Thoughtful Americans will conclude that Chump's Russian connections were the thing that enabled him to run for the presidency in 2015.

Props to David Cay Johnston - a terrific investigative reporter who has followed the Chump story for most of his career.



Lonestarblue

(9,977 posts)
8. I remember reading that Rosenstein forbid Mueller from investigating Trump's finances.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 12:39 PM
Mar 2021

Mueller’s hands were tied, but others in the FBI assumed that Trump’s financial ties to Russia were being investigated. One would think that a leak from Mueller or his team could have brought attention to the fact that Mueller was not being allowed to investigate perhaps the single most important aspect of Trump’s allegiance to Russia.

While Barr most certainly would have prevented such an investigation after he became AG, couldn’t such an investigation be made now? Or have all the records and evidence been destroyed? Of course, that assumes that we someday actually have a new AG. It’s now almost six weeks since Biden’s inauguration. That’s a long time to be without a chief law enforcement head for the country. I hope his vote goes through this week.

bucolic_frolic

(43,137 posts)
13. Mueller was tethered
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 12:54 PM
Mar 2021

by the scope of his investigation, and by the time allowed. A global reach like this can't be plumbed in 18 months.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
22. There was the tired analogy of "mall cops and Navy SEALs" a while back...
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 01:48 PM
Mar 2021

In this case, we were told we had a Navy SEAL-level prosecutor and team on the case, but they were held in check by their leadership - not even really qualified to be mall cops...more like night watchmen in a warehouse of used magazines.

Botany

(70,499 posts)
11. Russian and other international crime bosses have been using Trump properties to hide and or ...
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 12:42 PM
Mar 2021

... launder their money for years. Trump has been aware of these activities all along.

BTW It turns out that Barr and Rosenstein had Mueller boxed in and stopped from getting
Trump all along. However we do need to see the Mueller Report.

dlk

(11,558 posts)
14. Given what we've already seen with Trump's shady ties
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 12:59 PM
Mar 2021

This latest revelation isn’t at all surprising. “For every rat you see...”

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
17. I remember reading, in either late 2015 or early 2016, an account of Felix Sater being very busy.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 01:23 PM
Mar 2021

He was trying to tidy up loose ends that he became apparent to even his family that something was up. When asked about it, Sater was reported to have said "Getting ready to go to prison, and Donald will follow me there" or words to that effect.

That really buoyed my spirits for a while, but then nothing came of it. THAT was disheartening.

2golddogs

(107 posts)
30. Sater
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 02:37 PM
Mar 2021

I think about this all the time. Back then he also said something to the effect that his would soon become a household name. It sounded like he had reason to believe shit was soon to go down and he’d be going down with it. Then... crickets.

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
19. A Mental Exercise For Right-Wing Lurkers: Do It, It's Good For You
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 01:42 PM
Mar 2021

Just imagine, for at least fifteen minutes to at least half an hour, that some big-name Democrat had been hobnobbing with Russian gangsters and laundering money for Russian oligarchs. Would you feel comfortable with it? Would you think that such a person ought to be in a position of trust? Is that person in a position to be pressured or blackmailed? Do you want a Commander in Chief that can be pressured or dictated to by our country's adversaries?

Think about it.

===

Think about it and wonder why even Cold War liberals have decided that Trumpism isn't something patriotic Americans ought to be doing.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
23. To have thought and introspection, once must first seek knowledge of self...
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 01:51 PM
Mar 2021

Asking a Republican today to do so is akin to asking the dead to wake.

Botany

(70,499 posts)
33. Yup! "They have t-shirts to that effect."
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 05:58 PM
Mar 2021


Just 25 miles north of me in Delaware, OH. My fellow Ohio Brethren. Proud to be stupid.

UTUSN

(70,683 posts)
21. K&R for, kickety kick!1 ---I should live so long until his whole Russian Mob thing is all out there!
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 01:46 PM
Mar 2021

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
28. One reason I was so sure red don wouldn't win in 2016
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 02:31 PM
Mar 2021

is that, fairly early on in the campaign, I heard an interview with David Cay Johnston during which he laid out red don's mobbed up history and extensive criminal connections. Surely, I thought, it was only a matter of time before this information was widely covered in the media and the candidacy immediately sunk by such sordid and shocking history.

Instead....

Warpy

(111,249 posts)
29. That was the only money he could get when his empire crumbled in 2008
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 02:37 PM
Mar 2021

He is not a mobster, himself, although I'm sure he fancies himself one of the gang. He is just owned by mobsters and knows mostly their messenger boys.

One of the main things every dictator in the world does is loot the treasury. They know their days are numbered and they all think they'll get away in time to enjoy a mink lined retirement at the seashore. Enough of the world's banking industry is unregulated and unscrutinized that they get away with the theft.

I often think the main reason Putin and his compatriots were so eager to push Brexit was to keep London banks relatively unregulated. They asked so few questions about where the wire transfers were coming from and where they were going.

Here's a quickie guide:

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
35. Great to read this so important thread. Johnston, Unger, et al, haven't given up.
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 08:53 AM
Mar 2021

Plausible, very public, treason evidence will significantly hurt trump every which way.

Thank you all.

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
36. It's time we talk about this.
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 01:22 PM
Mar 2021

Giuliani knew all about this. Did you know Rudy’s dad was an “enforcer” for the Mob? Remember when he took down the Five Families? With informants? And how one of his informants got his signature 5th Ave tower completed during a strike by a mob controlled union?

Did you know Felix Sater is the guy who GOT the satellite phone number of bin Laden which led to his extermination in Pakistan? Ever wonder who got that number to FBI informant Sater?

Ever wonder how the FBI field office in NYC kept leaking information about Hillary’s emails? And who was feeding it to them?

Remember when Sater told Putin henchmen that he was going to get “our guy” elected? Do you know what the Bratva is? Or who Semion Mogilevich is?

An entire political party is being extorted by mobsters and you’re watching it.

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