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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump's power is fading fast.
Last weekend's CPAC convention was a failure to re-launch Trump back into national prominence. Yes, he still is the most popular Republican in the party, but even there his numbers are dropping.
Only 68% of CPAC attendees want him to run again. These are hardcore Republican/conservative supporters, and Trump's popularity with them is less than 70%. Not a great sign.
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/os-ne-cpac-orlando-day-3-trump-20210228-6jbsrxdnibfb3ibepm6ks7qvdq-story.html
Given his poor work ethic, his age, his lack of access to Twitter, his criminal and civil legal challenges, and his lack of money, he's looking at a dismal few years ahead.
I think it's safe to say that the nation, as a whole, is done with Trump.
Johnny2X2X
(23,727 posts)He's been starved of the spotlight for over a month, I thought for sure he'd want to make the headlines and announce he's running and also take full control of the party.
There are only 2 options, he's not sure he will run. Or he's running and thinks it will be a bigger story if he waits to announce. I think he's not sure and the party is still trying to figure things out.
CPAC was a flop for them and a flop for Trump. Really showed a floundering party. Good.
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)Trump asked for money!
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(2,904 posts)so I could mail him a bunch of Monopoly money.
ShazzieB
(22,276 posts)Donald J Trump
c/o Mar-a-Lago Club
1100 S Ocean Blvd
Palm Beach, FL 33480
Would he get it? Maybe, if you make the envelope look nice and businesslike.
Then again, he probably has lackeys to open his mail for him, so he might not actually see it himself. Still, it's fun to imagine, no? 😁
Layzeebeaver
(2,185 posts)MyOwnPeace
(17,447 posts)Layzeebeaver
(2,185 posts)Ill be here all week. Dont forget to tip your servers.
Ocelot II
(129,430 posts)for as long as possible, to determine who's loyal and whom he can manipulate, just because that kind of power is what he craves - and especially what are the best opportunities for ongoing grifting.
CaptainTruth
(8,062 posts)It's part of his personality type, he wants to hear people ask, it feeds his ego.
Johnny2X2X
(23,727 posts)The Republicans still don't know quite what to do about him yet and how they're going to tight rope walk the line between supporting our Democracy adn supporting Trumpism.
Ocelot II
(129,430 posts)He's already a mess cognitively (not that the GOP notices, or would care if they did); he's 74, overweight, and had covid - apparently a worse case than was revealed at the time - so who knows what kind of after-effects he's actually having. I'll be surprised (and disappointed, actually) if he isn't dead by then.
Grokenstein
(6,270 posts)he's going to be in a horrifying physical and mental state...but it's still gonna be fun to rub all those "Sleepy Joe's too old" memes back in his face. I mean, he's already bellowing about the unfairness of mild inclines; by 2024 he'll be carted around everywhere and threatening to have his brain transplanted into Eric's body.
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(2,904 posts)on both the popular vote and the EC.
Shermann
(9,009 posts)It's only fair. Stone got his pardon after all.
Thekaspervote
(35,816 posts)When you have cultists throwing money at you for doing absolutely nothing, why change that??!! The deposed idiot king isnt one to share.
theneworiginal
(302 posts)As in, is this taxable? It's a gift, right?
TexasBushwhacker
(21,107 posts)in Trump Tower and other Trump facilities, charge exorbinant rents and it all ends up in his pocket. My guess is he is still carrying over losses from previous years, so he may not even owe that much in taxes. Grifters gotta grift.
machoneman
(4,128 posts)...and give us all the middle finger. Just watch as he'll defy the courts and more and say....come and try to stop me.
theneworiginal
(302 posts)and he's using his soft plans for candidacy to get them.
He craves money and attention and will do whatever he can to meet his needs.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)His empire may, I don't really know for sure, be in for some serious problems and he is going to attempt to protect his personal wealth by getting the ignoramuses to pay for his defense. It is called the "The Art of the Steal." These suckers are being taken just like the hundreds of trusting contractors who performed work for him and then were refused payment on some pretense. Then when they objected he then told it they didn't like settling for ten cents on the dollar they would see them in a long a bitter court battle. Some even went bankrupt as result and he saved himself millions. Why he was never boycotted can only be explained that it just wasn't worth the hassle and cost. It like trying to fight an Insurance Company and there cadre of lawyers who have nothing better to do and often times, more often than not, just as futile.
Escurumbele
(4,030 posts)He IS going to jail, I wish people would stop talking about his running on 2024, he won't be able to do it. Let us not forget that he has to provide a DNA, he will be labeled as a rapist, and then the taxes, the fraud, etc. I also believe that one he continues in his loosing streak in court that other people will be encouraged to file lawsuits against him, his company and his children.
Rorey
(8,514 posts)I guess we're all so used to him escaping consequences that we think he'll do it again.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)Dating from Nixon, everyone of the Republican administrations, with the only exception being Bush's father, has seen numerous indictments and jail time for top officials. It is nothing more than a "Criminal Enterprise" and a blight on the nation. Trump is only the culmination of the Republican Party's extremely wealthy to establish an authoritarian presidency based on a phony interpretation that is absolutely counter to the strict separation of powers insisted by the Constitutions framers to prevent such a takeover.
Time and time again we have been warned that this is pure unadulterated fascism with all the trapping of the notorious seizure of government by the Nazis. We know very well how that ended with Germany utterly destroyed and millions of lives sacrificed. I am very close to my allotted time on earth and really hope the people can get a firm realization of what is taking place. We need a Revolution, peaceful show of the power of the people to oppose these pathetic victims of their own ignorance who are assisting in their own demise and more importantly the demise of those who actual believe our national motto upon which this nation was form: Out of many, one i.e., E puribus unum that is stamped on our coinage.
BComplex
(9,784 posts)due to Bill Barr getting everything erased, for all practical purposes.
Missn-Hitch
(1,383 posts)RVN VET71
(3,137 posts)to which the CPAC cretins screamed, hollered, and applauded, of course. But I noted that he did not say I will run again.
Maybe means, I suspect, that he can pick the pockets of his followers without being subject to election laws.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Klaralven
(7,510 posts)So they would be the hardest of the hard-core conservatives in the party.
no_hypocrisy
(54,441 posts)after 2009. They were wrong. He hasnt publicly invoked any threats against his daughters critics. Trump will go the way of Cheney.
Thekaspervote
(35,816 posts)Irish_Dem
(80,156 posts)He required daily medical care for his heart condition, and this cost the taxpayers a lot of money.
He finally got a heart transplant. Again all on the taxpayer dime.
marmar
(79,359 posts).... the rabid base is still on his immediate post-presidency sugar high. Hawley, Cruz and the other heirs apparent know this. They're playing along right now.
bucolic_frolic
(54,239 posts)But hey, HE's feeling the lovefest
Jon King
(1,910 posts)All of these Repugs are waiting for him to get indicted or sick or go bankrupt. They want to get his followers so are saying he is the man. They want to inherit his followers once he is taken out of the picture.
The irony is Trump is getting used and played like he has used and played others his entire life.
Irish_Dem
(80,156 posts)Or trying to be Trump's VP?
Missn-Hitch
(1,383 posts)Cosmocat
(15,364 posts)He was polling at about 5% when he came down the escalator.
Hollywood Access tapes ... the list of things he has said or done, moments, what he was done never ends.
If we had not had, and he had not done everything possible to make the Pandemic 100 times worse than it could have been, he would have won reelection, likely by a good margin.
If he is still alive and not in jail, he will run in 2024, lock up the nomination by the fall and it will once again be a coin flip in the general.
Jon King
(1,910 posts)He was able to use Twitter to get people to the polls who never voted before. Without their hourly fix, enough of them will not stay engaged in the swing districts through 2024.
Harker
(17,492 posts)will stampede to whatever platform he might adopt.
Cosmocat
(15,364 posts)Really good chance he finds another platform.
Autumn
(48,798 posts)reckoned with.
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Maven
(10,533 posts)They will always find a way to make every situation about him if they can.
machoneman
(4,128 posts)samsingh
(18,268 posts)even they are getting ready to move from the traitor.
TheRickles
(3,202 posts)spooky3
(38,335 posts)said yes. The second gave people a list of possible candidates and asked who was their most preferred candidate. On that one, he got 55%.
DeSantis was the next biggest vote-getter. I can't believe the media didn't point out that the CPAC was in FL, many attendees were likely Floridians, and they were more familiar with DeSantis than with most of the other candidates. The results likely would have been different elsewhere.

Martin68
(27,170 posts)I'm counting on indictments and convictions to put him out of the running.
Kid Berwyn
(23,316 posts)And crazy.
Then theres his guilt in the mob action to overturn an election.
And his criminal gross dereliction of duty in failing to address the COVID-19 pandemic.
Plus, Donald J Trump is stupid.
PatrickforB
(15,365 posts)voter suppression and gerrymandering.
I admit that I freaked out just a bit when I heard the quote from the traitor Kevin McCarthy about how he is willing to 'bet his house' that Republicans will take back the US House in 2022, with only five seats to flip.
Now, this alone didn't do it, but a subsequent post said that due to gerrymandering and voter suppression, Democratic strategists believe the Republicans 'will gain six seats before any votes are even cast.' That did freak me out.
We have a year and eight months, folks, to do some deep canvassing, and we'd better get to it. In the meantime how can we stop these Republican controlled state legislatures from passing more voter suppression bullshit? Even here in my own state, the Republicans are slamming the Democratic governor with his response to COVID, and have introduce suppression measures in the state legislature. They won't go anywhere because Democrats control the legislature, but still, it ain't gonna stop until we literally destroy the radical Q element in the Republican party.
wnylib
(25,355 posts)as a candidate and is now just enjoying the power, attention, and money he can get from suggesting a 2024 run.
BUT, Trumpism is not over and done. He was always just the culmination of where the RW has been headed for decades, a symptom, not a cause. But he advanced the causes of the far right, which is why they embraced him. They will continue in the same direction, with new leaders who openly accept the making of fringe elements into the mainstream.
We will face more of the same in the future, with other leaders besides Trump.
Politicub
(12,327 posts)about it was about the nazi symbolism and Hyatts milquetoast response than Trumps speech.
I havent watched cable news all weekend, so perhaps it was covered there more than online. The place where I saw it mentioned it most frequently was DU. But then again, I spend a lot of time on DU.
hay rick
(9,405 posts)The wannabes are circling, waiting for him to pass out and soil himself. None of the Big Lie assholes are willing to be the first loyalist to kick him when he's down.
crickets
(26,168 posts)Roc2020
(1,745 posts)And that may be worse. A more polished sweet talking politician on the outside but all murderous Trumpism on the inside.
Lonestarblue
(13,266 posts)Trump will support extremists to run against the Republicans who voted to impeach him. If they win the primaries and go on to win election, Trump will be golden as the kingmaker. If most of his candidates lose, the rest of the party will move on.
Vinca
(53,429 posts)for only giving him 55% of the vote. I'm sure he expected 100% and was hoping for 125% -"the greatest percentage anyone has ever gotten and no one will ever do it again."
bdamomma
(69,195 posts)fast into a prison for killing 500,000 plus Americans from Covid, he has to pay.
NNadir
(37,378 posts)...in fact he's going to make Sarkozy look like a boy scout.
Warpy
(114,445 posts)and I'm a lot more worried about De Satan.he's young and enough of a psychopath to succeed where Dumdum failed.
Jan 6 was a failed coup. The next one will succeed.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,604 posts)Warpy
(114,445 posts)but he was packaged well enough to be elected governor in Florida, although I suspect a dead jellyfish could be elected governor there if he had an (R) in back of his name.
DeSatan has youth, good looks (if you like department store dummies), and absolutely no core principles. I've seen marketing make up for a lack of charisma before.
spooky3
(38,335 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(12,172 posts)It's going to be time to beat back the flames of all these fires he lit. MTG, Hawley, Boebert, and many others seem to be ascendant, at least at the moment, and they have to be driven from the stage.
How some of these low-IQ, lower-useful-skills people got elected is beyond me.
arlyellowdog
(1,430 posts)God, why doesnt he go away? Guy voted for Trump twice.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,604 posts)and is not willing to expose himself to more criminal prosecutions.
theneworiginal
(302 posts)for what happened in the Capital Insurrection. His testimony will tie him up in knots for the DOJ's prosecution of his part in the insurrection. Trump would be a nightmare on the stand. Any attorney will tell his/her client to just answer the question and don't keep talking. Trump will ramble on and trap himself in lies.
Depositions for his civil cases are going to lead to criminal charges. This is a major problem for him on the horizon.
twodogsbarking
(17,687 posts)for either VP or POTUS. Crazy is the norm.
Upthevibe
(10,067 posts)I'm knocking on wood as I read this.....just sayin' .
I'm not counting this evil m'er f'er out until he's dead.....
Nululu
(1,114 posts)Trump and his followers are very dangerous. Trump may have his daughter or son run in 2024. Legislatures across the country are working hard to surpress the vote and suborn the election. Even if Trump loses he'll still try to overthrow the government.
AdrianTheIndependent
(10 posts)peggysue2
(12,423 posts)The way we ensure this is denying these suckers victory in 2022, 2024 and beyond. Any politician embracing Trumpism, an anti-democratic ideology, needs to be kicked to the curb.
We know what Trump and his enablers stand for at this point--authoritarianism, corruption, racism, sexism, xenophobia, etc.
We've been warned, given another chance to get the train back on the rails while strengthening our laws, institutions, economy and reversing the Covid disaster.
We won't get another chance. This is the moment we live or die as a country, a Republic.
Hoochie Coochie Man
(443 posts)Besides, he is a one trick pony and is pretty boring actually. Never say his name ever. When he says something awful laugh and blow him off. Not worth the mental energy. Let the legal system and karma do its thing. Biden is the Prez now and doing a damn fine job under the circumstances. Imagine if Cheeto Mussolini were the Prez right now, how fucked we would be
LiberalLovinLug
(14,592 posts)As long as he can keep stringing along his cult followers, who are now the base of the R party, Mitch and Lindsey and any R rep that does not want to be primaried with a QOP candidate, will toe the Trump is our Overlord line.
The worst and darkest will flock to him. He'll declare he is the true elected leader, and go on speaking rallies. Newer, smarter, better spoken, white supremacists and Nazis we haven't even met yet will come out of the woodwork.
I fear Trumpism, better known as Fascism, is still being stoked on RW hate radio every hour of every day. Those morans are not going away. If they can't have Trump, they will have the next charismatic guy that rides his coattails. With Trump very visibly standing beside him. And Trump would then get a leading consultation role in any new Q administration.
uponit7771
(93,491 posts)Beartracks
(14,397 posts)... and, for that matter, Hannityism, Limbaughism, Cruz-Hawleyism, Gingrichism, and Mitchism.
Conservatism needs a a damn reset.
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