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Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:03 AM Mar 2021

Trump's power is fading fast.

Last weekend's CPAC convention was a failure to re-launch Trump back into national prominence. Yes, he still is the most popular Republican in the party, but even there his numbers are dropping.

Only 68% of CPAC attendees want him to run again. These are hardcore Republican/conservative supporters, and Trump's popularity with them is less than 70%. Not a great sign.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/os-ne-cpac-orlando-day-3-trump-20210228-6jbsrxdnibfb3ibepm6ks7qvdq-story.html

Given his poor work ethic, his age, his lack of access to Twitter, his criminal and civil legal challenges, and his lack of money, he's looking at a dismal few years ahead.

I think it's safe to say that the nation, as a whole, is done with Trump.

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Trump's power is fading fast. (Original Post) Yavin4 Mar 2021 OP
Really shocked he didn't declare he was running in 2024 Johnny2X2X Mar 2021 #1
And at the end True Blue American Mar 2021 #3
I wish I knew the Mar-A-Lago mailing address.... Prof. Toru Tanaka Mar 2021 #61
You could always mail it to the club address... ShazzieB Mar 2021 #64
Be sure to NOT include the "Get out of jail" card. Layzeebeaver Mar 2021 #77
DAMN, that was a GOOD one!!!! MyOwnPeace Mar 2021 #78
Thank you Layzeebeaver Mar 2021 #79
My guess is that he wants to milk the *possibility* that he'll run Ocelot II Mar 2021 #4
You're exactly right. Trump likes "teasing" to make people ask for it. CaptainTruth Mar 2021 #17
+1 Auggie Mar 2021 #18
Ultimately, I think he runs Johnny2X2X Mar 2021 #27
I doubt he'll be in good enough shape in four years. Ocelot II Mar 2021 #32
If he survives and DOES run Grokenstein Mar 2021 #36
And it would be great to see Fat Nixon get his ass kicked Prof. Toru Tanaka Mar 2021 #62
Trump has earned a tattoo of his face on Roger Stone's back right next to Nixon Shermann Mar 2021 #66
If he officially announces the money he grifts is subject to FEC law and can't just keep all of it Thekaspervote Mar 2021 #8
Does he have to declare this money as income? theneworiginal Mar 2021 #11
Yes, but he can house his campaign headquarters TexasBushwhacker Mar 2021 #67
Sorry, but the FEC Rules are toothless, minimal and only result in fines. He'll grift millions... machoneman Mar 2021 #69
He wants the spotlight and the contribution$ theneworiginal Mar 2021 #10
He is a classic con-man and is only bilking the suckers for all he can get out of them. olegramps Mar 2021 #19
He didn't because he understands that probabilities of not going to jail are slim Escurumbele Mar 2021 #21
I think/hope you're right Rorey Mar 2021 #38
What I truly hope that it is the destruction of the Republican Party. olegramps Mar 2021 #29
Great post! Yes. However, Bush the elder barely escaped Iran Contra BComplex Mar 2021 #58
Hear, hear!! Missn-Hitch Mar 2021 #74
He did say that "maybe" he'd think about looking for a "third victory" RVN VET71 Mar 2021 #35
Finally, the toilet might be working and he's flushed out. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2021 #2
And that poll was among attendees -- who were only a third of last years. Klaralven Mar 2021 #5
Many believed Dick (Darth) Cheney would be a force no_hypocrisy Mar 2021 #6
And this sooo makes me smile!! Thekaspervote Mar 2021 #9
Cheney was in extremely poor health. Which was kept secret for a long time. Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #43
And as more time passes the more he'll fade.... marmar Mar 2021 #7
Self-aggrandizement only reinforces the perception of desperation bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #12
I think Cruz and the gang all know this.... Jon King Mar 2021 #13
Right, that is why Cruz and Hawley are positioning themselves to be the heir apparent. Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #44
Cotton too. Cheers. Missn-Hitch Mar 2021 #75
Yes, THIS time he is done Cosmocat Mar 2021 #14
Not without Twitter... Jon King Mar 2021 #16
I'm not hep to social media, but I imagine the adoring throngs Harker Mar 2021 #23
That's a legit point, though Cosmocat Mar 2021 #40
The media will never allow his so called power to fade. To them he is god and a force to be Autumn Mar 2021 #15
YEP Cosmocat Mar 2021 #41
Yup. The modern media is addicted to controversy and drama and he is their cash cow. Maven Mar 2021 #60
A farce to be reckoned with???? machoneman Mar 2021 #70
68% support from the most rabid diehard traitors for traitor trump is shockingly low for him samsingh Mar 2021 #20
The actual tally was Trump 55%, Not Trump 45%. He's toast. TheRickles Mar 2021 #28
There were two qs. IIRC, the first asked if he should run again and 68% spooky3 Mar 2021 #72
. dalton99a Mar 2021 #22
I'm not sure he's down for the count yet. 69% might be better than any other candidate gets. Martin68 Mar 2021 #24
Insane Desperate Assclown is desperate. Kid Berwyn Mar 2021 #25
Nice post. Unfortunately, though, we do NOT seem to be done with PatrickforB Mar 2021 #26
Right. I believe that Trump is done for wnylib Mar 2021 #55
I was surprised at how little Trump was covered. The bigger news Politicub Mar 2021 #30
Trump is their nasty drunk uncle. hay rick Mar 2021 #31
Oh, if only. Fingers crossed and good bleeping riddance. nt crickets Mar 2021 #33
Nation not done with Trumpism though Roc2020 Mar 2021 #34
The real test may come in 2022. Lonestarblue Mar 2021 #37
I'm wondering if it will take one day or two for Trump to throw the CPAC people under the bus Vinca Mar 2021 #39
I hope he fades bdamomma Mar 2021 #42
With his taxes in prosecutor hands, he's going full Sarkozy... NNadir Mar 2021 #45
De Satan is snapping at his heels Warpy Mar 2021 #46
Diminished charisma. He won't catch on. Not by a long shot. n/t Eyeball_Kid Mar 2021 #50
I'm afraid I'm no judge of charisma Warpy Mar 2021 #59
I think the fact that the CPAC was held in FL rather than another state affected the poll results. spooky3 Mar 2021 #73
We have to hope that he moves away from the spotlight far and fast. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #47
The reaction of my very Republican brother-in-law arlyellowdog Mar 2021 #48
A third option: Trump hears the justice system pounding at his door, Eyeball_Kid Mar 2021 #49
Just wait until he is compelled to testify in the Wrongful Death suit which will be filed theneworiginal Mar 2021 #51
He will eventually start selling Ivanka twodogsbarking Mar 2021 #52
Yavin4...... Upthevibe Mar 2021 #53
Complacency is dangerous Nululu Mar 2021 #54
I agree AdrianTheIndependent Mar 2021 #56
Remains to be seen if Trump or Trumpism is extinguished peggysue2 Mar 2021 #57
Ignore Trump. Rob him of oxygen Hoochie Coochie Man Mar 2021 #63
I doubt it. He may not run again, but his behind the scenes power is rising. LiberalLovinLug Mar 2021 #65
Carter had less than 70 among dems iinm uponit7771 Mar 2021 #68
Even if done with Trump, they NEED to be done with TrumpISM... Beartracks Mar 2021 #71
Yes. There's another waiting in line who is smarter. C Moon Mar 2021 #76

Johnny2X2X

(23,727 posts)
1. Really shocked he didn't declare he was running in 2024
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:08 AM
Mar 2021

He's been starved of the spotlight for over a month, I thought for sure he'd want to make the headlines and announce he's running and also take full control of the party.

There are only 2 options, he's not sure he will run. Or he's running and thinks it will be a bigger story if he waits to announce. I think he's not sure and the party is still trying to figure things out.

CPAC was a flop for them and a flop for Trump. Really showed a floundering party. Good.

ShazzieB

(22,276 posts)
64. You could always mail it to the club address...
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 08:13 PM
Mar 2021

Donald J Trump
c/o Mar-a-Lago Club
1100 S Ocean Blvd
Palm Beach, FL 33480

Would he get it? Maybe, if you make the envelope look nice and businesslike.
Then again, he probably has lackeys to open his mail for him, so he might not actually see it himself. Still, it's fun to imagine, no? 😁

Ocelot II

(129,430 posts)
4. My guess is that he wants to milk the *possibility* that he'll run
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:18 AM
Mar 2021

for as long as possible, to determine who's loyal and whom he can manipulate, just because that kind of power is what he craves - and especially what are the best opportunities for ongoing grifting.

CaptainTruth

(8,062 posts)
17. You're exactly right. Trump likes "teasing" to make people ask for it.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:44 AM
Mar 2021

It's part of his personality type, he wants to hear people ask, it feeds his ego.

Johnny2X2X

(23,727 posts)
27. Ultimately, I think he runs
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:07 AM
Mar 2021

The Republicans still don't know quite what to do about him yet and how they're going to tight rope walk the line between supporting our Democracy adn supporting Trumpism.

Ocelot II

(129,430 posts)
32. I doubt he'll be in good enough shape in four years.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:15 AM
Mar 2021

He's already a mess cognitively (not that the GOP notices, or would care if they did); he's 74, overweight, and had covid - apparently a worse case than was revealed at the time - so who knows what kind of after-effects he's actually having. I'll be surprised (and disappointed, actually) if he isn't dead by then.

Grokenstein

(6,270 posts)
36. If he survives and DOES run
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:25 AM
Mar 2021

he's going to be in a horrifying physical and mental state...but it's still gonna be fun to rub all those "Sleepy Joe's too old" memes back in his face. I mean, he's already bellowing about the unfairness of mild inclines; by 2024 he'll be carted around everywhere and threatening to have his brain transplanted into Eric's body.

Shermann

(9,009 posts)
66. Trump has earned a tattoo of his face on Roger Stone's back right next to Nixon
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 08:55 PM
Mar 2021

It's only fair. Stone got his pardon after all.

Thekaspervote

(35,816 posts)
8. If he officially announces the money he grifts is subject to FEC law and can't just keep all of it
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:29 AM
Mar 2021

When you have cultists throwing money at you for doing absolutely nothing, why change that??!! The deposed idiot king isn’t one to share.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,107 posts)
67. Yes, but he can house his campaign headquarters
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 09:07 PM
Mar 2021

in Trump Tower and other Trump facilities, charge exorbinant rents and it all ends up in his pocket. My guess is he is still carrying over losses from previous years, so he may not even owe that much in taxes. Grifters gotta grift.

machoneman

(4,128 posts)
69. Sorry, but the FEC Rules are toothless, minimal and only result in fines. He'll grift millions...
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 09:41 PM
Mar 2021

...and give us all the middle finger. Just watch as he'll defy the courts and more and say....come and try to stop me.

theneworiginal

(302 posts)
10. He wants the spotlight and the contribution$
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:31 AM
Mar 2021

and he's using his soft plans for candidacy to get them.

He craves money and attention and will do whatever he can to meet his needs.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
19. He is a classic con-man and is only bilking the suckers for all he can get out of them.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:47 AM
Mar 2021

His empire may, I don't really know for sure, be in for some serious problems and he is going to attempt to protect his personal wealth by getting the ignoramuses to pay for his defense. It is called the "The Art of the Steal." These suckers are being taken just like the hundreds of trusting contractors who performed work for him and then were refused payment on some pretense. Then when they objected he then told it they didn't like settling for ten cents on the dollar they would see them in a long a bitter court battle. Some even went bankrupt as result and he saved himself millions. Why he was never boycotted can only be explained that it just wasn't worth the hassle and cost. It like trying to fight an Insurance Company and there cadre of lawyers who have nothing better to do and often times, more often than not, just as futile.

Escurumbele

(4,030 posts)
21. He didn't because he understands that probabilities of not going to jail are slim
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:49 AM
Mar 2021

He IS going to jail, I wish people would stop talking about his running on 2024, he won't be able to do it. Let us not forget that he has to provide a DNA, he will be labeled as a rapist, and then the taxes, the fraud, etc. I also believe that one he continues in his loosing streak in court that other people will be encouraged to file lawsuits against him, his company and his children.

Rorey

(8,514 posts)
38. I think/hope you're right
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:43 AM
Mar 2021

I guess we're all so used to him escaping consequences that we think he'll do it again.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
29. What I truly hope that it is the destruction of the Republican Party.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:09 AM
Mar 2021

Dating from Nixon, everyone of the Republican administrations, with the only exception being Bush's father, has seen numerous indictments and jail time for top officials. It is nothing more than a "Criminal Enterprise" and a blight on the nation. Trump is only the culmination of the Republican Party's extremely wealthy to establish an authoritarian presidency based on a phony interpretation that is absolutely counter to the strict separation of powers insisted by the Constitutions framers to prevent such a takeover.

Time and time again we have been warned that this is pure unadulterated fascism with all the trapping of the notorious seizure of government by the Nazis. We know very well how that ended with Germany utterly destroyed and millions of lives sacrificed. I am very close to my allotted time on earth and really hope the people can get a firm realization of what is taking place. We need a Revolution, peaceful show of the power of the people to oppose these pathetic victims of their own ignorance who are assisting in their own demise and more importantly the demise of those who actual believe our national motto upon which this nation was form: Out of many, one i.e., E puribus unum that is stamped on our coinage.

BComplex

(9,784 posts)
58. Great post! Yes. However, Bush the elder barely escaped Iran Contra
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 01:11 PM
Mar 2021

due to Bill Barr getting everything erased, for all practical purposes.

RVN VET71

(3,137 posts)
35. He did say that "maybe" he'd think about looking for a "third victory"
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:23 AM
Mar 2021

to which the CPAC cretins screamed, hollered, and applauded, of course. But I noted that he did not say “I will run again.”

“Maybe” means, I suspect, that he can pick the pockets of his followers without being subject to election laws.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
5. And that poll was among attendees -- who were only a third of last years.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:21 AM
Mar 2021

So they would be the hardest of the hard-core conservatives in the party.

no_hypocrisy

(54,441 posts)
6. Many believed Dick (Darth) Cheney would be a force
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:25 AM
Mar 2021

after 2009. They were wrong. He hasn’t publicly invoked any threats against his daughter’s critics. Trump will go the way of Cheney.

Irish_Dem

(80,156 posts)
43. Cheney was in extremely poor health. Which was kept secret for a long time.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:50 AM
Mar 2021

He required daily medical care for his heart condition, and this cost the taxpayers a lot of money.
He finally got a heart transplant. Again all on the taxpayer dime.

marmar

(79,359 posts)
7. And as more time passes the more he'll fade....
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:28 AM
Mar 2021

.... the rabid base is still on his immediate post-presidency sugar high. Hawley, Cruz and the other heirs apparent know this. They're playing along right now.

bucolic_frolic

(54,239 posts)
12. Self-aggrandizement only reinforces the perception of desperation
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:36 AM
Mar 2021

But hey, HE's feeling the lovefest

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
13. I think Cruz and the gang all know this....
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:38 AM
Mar 2021

All of these Repugs are waiting for him to get indicted or sick or go bankrupt. They want to get his followers so are saying he is the man. They want to inherit his followers once he is taken out of the picture.

The irony is Trump is getting used and played like he has used and played others his entire life.

Irish_Dem

(80,156 posts)
44. Right, that is why Cruz and Hawley are positioning themselves to be the heir apparent.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:51 AM
Mar 2021

Or trying to be Trump's VP?

Cosmocat

(15,364 posts)
14. Yes, THIS time he is done
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:39 AM
Mar 2021

He was polling at about 5% when he came down the escalator.

Hollywood Access tapes ... the list of things he has said or done, moments, what he was done never ends.

If we had not had, and he had not done everything possible to make the Pandemic 100 times worse than it could have been, he would have won reelection, likely by a good margin.

If he is still alive and not in jail, he will run in 2024, lock up the nomination by the fall and it will once again be a coin flip in the general.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
16. Not without Twitter...
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:43 AM
Mar 2021

He was able to use Twitter to get people to the polls who never voted before. Without their hourly fix, enough of them will not stay engaged in the swing districts through 2024.

Harker

(17,492 posts)
23. I'm not hep to social media, but I imagine the adoring throngs
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:51 AM
Mar 2021

will stampede to whatever platform he might adopt.

Autumn

(48,798 posts)
15. The media will never allow his so called power to fade. To them he is god and a force to be
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:42 AM
Mar 2021

reckoned with.

Maven

(10,533 posts)
60. Yup. The modern media is addicted to controversy and drama and he is their cash cow.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 02:43 PM
Mar 2021

They will always find a way to make every situation about him if they can.

samsingh

(18,268 posts)
20. 68% support from the most rabid diehard traitors for traitor trump is shockingly low for him
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:48 AM
Mar 2021

even they are getting ready to move from the traitor.

spooky3

(38,335 posts)
72. There were two qs. IIRC, the first asked if he should run again and 68%
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:12 PM
Mar 2021

said yes. The second gave people a list of possible candidates and asked who was their most preferred candidate. On that one, he got 55%.

DeSantis was the next biggest vote-getter. I can't believe the media didn't point out that the CPAC was in FL, many attendees were likely Floridians, and they were more familiar with DeSantis than with most of the other candidates. The results likely would have been different elsewhere.

Martin68

(27,170 posts)
24. I'm not sure he's down for the count yet. 69% might be better than any other candidate gets.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:57 AM
Mar 2021

I'm counting on indictments and convictions to put him out of the running.

Kid Berwyn

(23,316 posts)
25. Insane Desperate Assclown is desperate.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:59 AM
Mar 2021

And crazy.

Then there’s his guilt in the mob action to overturn an election.

And his criminal gross dereliction of duty in failing to address the COVID-19 pandemic.

Plus, Donald J Trump is stupid.

PatrickforB

(15,365 posts)
26. Nice post. Unfortunately, though, we do NOT seem to be done with
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:03 AM
Mar 2021

voter suppression and gerrymandering.

I admit that I freaked out just a bit when I heard the quote from the traitor Kevin McCarthy about how he is willing to 'bet his house' that Republicans will take back the US House in 2022, with only five seats to flip.

Now, this alone didn't do it, but a subsequent post said that due to gerrymandering and voter suppression, Democratic strategists believe the Republicans 'will gain six seats before any votes are even cast.' That did freak me out.

We have a year and eight months, folks, to do some deep canvassing, and we'd better get to it. In the meantime how can we stop these Republican controlled state legislatures from passing more voter suppression bullshit? Even here in my own state, the Republicans are slamming the Democratic governor with his response to COVID, and have introduce suppression measures in the state legislature. They won't go anywhere because Democrats control the legislature, but still, it ain't gonna stop until we literally destroy the radical Q element in the Republican party.

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
55. Right. I believe that Trump is done for
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 12:57 PM
Mar 2021

as a candidate and is now just enjoying the power, attention, and money he can get from suggesting a 2024 run.

BUT, Trumpism is not over and done. He was always just the culmination of where the RW has been headed for decades, a symptom, not a cause. But he advanced the causes of the far right, which is why they embraced him. They will continue in the same direction, with new leaders who openly accept the making of fringe elements into the mainstream.

We will face more of the same in the future, with other leaders besides Trump.

Politicub

(12,327 posts)
30. I was surprised at how little Trump was covered. The bigger news
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:12 AM
Mar 2021

about it was about the nazi symbolism and Hyatt’s milquetoast response than Trump’s speech.

I haven’t watched cable news all weekend, so perhaps it was covered there more than online. The place where I saw it mentioned it most frequently was DU. But then again, I spend a lot of time on DU.

hay rick

(9,405 posts)
31. Trump is their nasty drunk uncle.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:15 AM
Mar 2021

The wannabes are circling, waiting for him to pass out and soil himself. None of the Big Lie assholes are willing to be the first loyalist to kick him when he's down.

Roc2020

(1,745 posts)
34. Nation not done with Trumpism though
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:20 AM
Mar 2021

And that may be worse. A more polished sweet talking politician on the outside but all murderous Trumpism on the inside.

Lonestarblue

(13,266 posts)
37. The real test may come in 2022.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:28 AM
Mar 2021

Trump will support extremists to run against the Republicans who voted to impeach him. If they win the primaries and go on to win election, Trump will be golden as the kingmaker. If most of his candidates lose, the rest of the party will move on.

Vinca

(53,429 posts)
39. I'm wondering if it will take one day or two for Trump to throw the CPAC people under the bus
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:47 AM
Mar 2021

for only giving him 55% of the vote. I'm sure he expected 100% and was hoping for 125% -"the greatest percentage anyone has ever gotten and no one will ever do it again."

bdamomma

(69,195 posts)
42. I hope he fades
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:50 AM
Mar 2021

fast into a prison for killing 500,000 plus Americans from Covid, he has to pay.

NNadir

(37,378 posts)
45. With his taxes in prosecutor hands, he's going full Sarkozy...
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:55 AM
Mar 2021

...in fact he's going to make Sarkozy look like a boy scout.

Warpy

(114,445 posts)
46. De Satan is snapping at his heels
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:58 AM
Mar 2021

and I'm a lot more worried about De Satan.he's young and enough of a psychopath to succeed where Dumdum failed.

Jan 6 was a failed coup. The next one will succeed.

Warpy

(114,445 posts)
59. I'm afraid I'm no judge of charisma
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 01:48 PM
Mar 2021

but he was packaged well enough to be elected governor in Florida, although I suspect a dead jellyfish could be elected governor there if he had an (R) in back of his name.

DeSatan has youth, good looks (if you like department store dummies), and absolutely no core principles. I've seen marketing make up for a lack of charisma before.

spooky3

(38,335 posts)
73. I think the fact that the CPAC was held in FL rather than another state affected the poll results.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:15 PM
Mar 2021

BobTheSubgenius

(12,172 posts)
47. We have to hope that he moves away from the spotlight far and fast.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 12:06 PM
Mar 2021

It's going to be time to beat back the flames of all these fires he lit. MTG, Hawley, Boebert, and many others seem to be ascendant, at least at the moment, and they have to be driven from the stage.

How some of these low-IQ, lower-useful-skills people got elected is beyond me.

arlyellowdog

(1,430 posts)
48. The reaction of my very Republican brother-in-law
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 12:31 PM
Mar 2021

“God, why doesn’t he go away?” Guy voted for Trump twice.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,604 posts)
49. A third option: Trump hears the justice system pounding at his door,
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 12:35 PM
Mar 2021

and is not willing to expose himself to more criminal prosecutions.

theneworiginal

(302 posts)
51. Just wait until he is compelled to testify in the Wrongful Death suit which will be filed
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 12:43 PM
Mar 2021

for what happened in the Capital Insurrection. His testimony will tie him up in knots for the DOJ's prosecution of his part in the insurrection. Trump would be a nightmare on the stand. Any attorney will tell his/her client to just answer the question and don't keep talking. Trump will ramble on and trap himself in lies.

Depositions for his civil cases are going to lead to criminal charges. This is a major problem for him on the horizon.

Upthevibe

(10,067 posts)
53. Yavin4......
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 12:45 PM
Mar 2021

I'm knocking on wood as I read this.....just sayin' . I'm not counting this evil m'er f'er out until he's dead.....

Nululu

(1,114 posts)
54. Complacency is dangerous
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 12:49 PM
Mar 2021

Trump and his followers are very dangerous. Trump may have his daughter or son run in 2024. Legislatures across the country are working hard to surpress the vote and suborn the election. Even if Trump loses he'll still try to overthrow the government.

peggysue2

(12,423 posts)
57. Remains to be seen if Trump or Trumpism is extinguished
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 01:01 PM
Mar 2021

The way we ensure this is denying these suckers victory in 2022, 2024 and beyond. Any politician embracing Trumpism, an anti-democratic ideology, needs to be kicked to the curb.

We know what Trump and his enablers stand for at this point--authoritarianism, corruption, racism, sexism, xenophobia, etc.

We've been warned, given another chance to get the train back on the rails while strengthening our laws, institutions, economy and reversing the Covid disaster.

We won't get another chance. This is the moment we live or die as a country, a Republic.

 
63. Ignore Trump. Rob him of oxygen
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 07:59 PM
Mar 2021

Besides, he is a one trick pony and is pretty boring actually. Never say his name ever. When he says something awful laugh and blow him off. Not worth the mental energy. Let the legal system and karma do it’s thing. Biden is the Prez now and doing a damn fine job under the circumstances. Imagine if Cheeto Mussolini were the Prez right now, how fucked we would be

LiberalLovinLug

(14,592 posts)
65. I doubt it. He may not run again, but his behind the scenes power is rising.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 08:48 PM
Mar 2021

As long as he can keep stringing along his cult followers, who are now the base of the R party, Mitch and Lindsey and any R rep that does not want to be primaried with a QOP candidate, will toe the Trump is our Overlord line.

The worst and darkest will flock to him. He'll declare he is the true elected leader, and go on speaking rallies. Newer, smarter, better spoken, white supremacists and Nazis we haven't even met yet will come out of the woodwork.

I fear Trumpism, better known as Fascism, is still being stoked on RW hate radio every hour of every day. Those morans are not going away. If they can't have Trump, they will have the next charismatic guy that rides his coattails. With Trump very visibly standing beside him. And Trump would then get a leading consultation role in any new Q administration.

Beartracks

(14,397 posts)
71. Even if done with Trump, they NEED to be done with TrumpISM...
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 09:57 PM
Mar 2021

... and, for that matter, Hannityism, Limbaughism, Cruz-Hawleyism, Gingrichism, and Mitchism.

Conservatism needs a a damn reset.

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