******OFFICIAL BIDEN/RYAN DEBATE THREAD #2******

[riderinthestorm]

"Lets all calm down here!"


Link to thread #1 http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021516861

[bullwinkle428]

1. "FACTS MATTER, Martha!!"

[DaDeacon]

6. BOUT TIME IT WAS SAID!!!!!

[redwitch]

2. Facts matter!

Somebody had to say it.

[Fearless]

3. Hell yeah facts matter... Ryan doesn't understand international politics.

[thatsrightimirish]

4. how is it going?

too nervous to watch lol

[WinkyDink]

9. Joes likes facts; Ryan thinks he, PR, can change the Ayatollahs' minds. :-)

[michigandem58]

19. Good! Ryan sipping his water every 15 seconds

Biden winning, IMO

[uppityperson]

50. Excellent! Too funny and go Joe!

[bullwinkle428]

5. Joe CANNOT BELIEVE they sent this clown out there to debate him!

[LonePirate]

7. It's been almost 20 minutes on foreign policy which is not a top issue in this election. Move on!

[Pryderi]

27. agreed n/t

[nc4bo]

8. Ryan is talking in salads! nm

[WinkyDink]

21. His weasel words dazzle his ignorant fans.

[Digit]

9. Biden's doing GREAT!

[DisabledAmerican]

11. Joe is putting the nail into the coffin

bomb bomb bomb Iran!

[highplainsdem]

12. "He changes his mind so often, I could be wrong." LOL

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

41. OH SNAP!!!

47 PERCENT...THANK YOU!!

[meow2u3]

13. Facts matter is right

[NYC Liberal]

14. "Now, Romney changes his mind so often so I could be wrong here"

[MadrasT]

45. That was fugging awesome.

[Flatpicker]

15. Ryan just admitted

He's willing to go to war over these Iran issues.

[spanone]

16. somewhere john bolton is masturbating to ryan's words.....

[Emit]

28. Aw gawd the visual!

eeww!

[siligut]

44. Oh yes, they had Iran planned back when W was in office

And Syria is next. Nothing new.

[Lucy Goosey]

52. Oh, jebus - unwanted mental image!

UNWANTED MENTAL IMAGE!!!!!

[fishwax]

17. "He changes his mind so often, I could be wrong."

Joe's working the body tonight.

[Flatpicker]

30. I love it

[ChisolmTrailDem]

18. 'Romney changes his mind so often"

[KathieG]

20. Zing! Go Joe!

[Emit]

22. This President doesn't bluff!

Go Joe!

[ecstatic]

23. Biden's kicking ass! nt

[pinstikfartherin]

24. He changes his mind so often, lol!!! nt

[DanTex]

25. Joe is POUNDING Paul Ryan!!!

[Melinda]

26. Ryan is being schooled. Love it.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

29. 47%!!!

[ecstatic]

31. Love it!!! Joe brings up the 47% !!!

[GoCubsGo]

48. He's going off on the Grover Norquist pledge now!

LMAO!!! You tell 'em, Joe!!!

[grntuscarora]

109. "Just get out of the way!"

I love you Joe!

[Lars39]

32. DU Defcon 1 hit.

[Le Taz Hot]

79. Wow!

You're right. Reminds me of the good ole days on DU.

[WinkyDink]

33. Heh. Joe said "Romney" without the "Governor" a couple times. :-)

[Fearless]

34. 47% and taxes mother fucker!

[highplainsdem]

35. Joe brings up the 47% remark!

[Gregorian]

36. Joe is making Ryan look like a big liability. And a rookey.

[Ikonoklast]

58. Ryan looks out of his depth, like the n00b that he is.

[Flatpicker]

37. HeadShot!!

BOOM.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

38. oh lordie....what about that Joe laughing? couldn't that be bad??? I am

so paranoid

[WinkyDink]

66. Laughing at the opponent is never bad. Do you see Ryan laughing? No. HE IS LOSING BIG.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

120. i think he's laughing too much. people out there may think it's disrespectful

[TBF]

166. You need to get out more.

Joe is doing EXACTLY what he needs to do.

[Ikonoklast]

39. Biden is pounding those points home, BIG FUCKING TIME!

[Myrina]

40. Ryan looks like he wants to crawl under the table

KICK HIS ASS, JOE!!!!

[Glimmer of Hope]

42. Omg! He is damn good.

[Honeycombe8]

43. I've had it up to here with this notion that 47%...they pay for taxes than Gov. Romney..GO MR VP GO!

[Paula Sims]

46. GO JOE GO!!!!!

[WinkyDink]

47. JOE IS ON FIRE!!! TELL IT, JOE!! (Take notes, O.!)

[AnnieBW]

49. 47%!!!

It's about time that they took some responsibility here!

Boom goes the dynamite!

[highplainsdem]

51. Joe's on fire!

[Lars39]

53. Instead of signing pledges to Grover Norquist....

W00T

[Flatpicker]

54. Ryan just got Norquisted!!!

[superpatriotman]

55. Go Joe!

You are my truth-telling hero!

[Emit]

56. Damn good rant there Joe!!

[jimlup]

57. Go Uncle Joe!!!!!!!

Biden is right on.

Ryan is over his head.

[jimlup]

182. Joe isn't letting Ryan dish his shit

Go Joe GO!!!!!!!!!!

[blaze]

59. OMG!! I love Joe!!!! nt

[joshcryer]

60. Holy fuck Biden is killing it.

[soleft]

61. Bidengasm!

[Glimmer of Hope]

75. Yes!!

[Warren Stupidity]

62. Kicked some ass on the economy.

[Robb]

63. Holy crap, that was great. GO JOE!

[pinstikfartherin]

64. GO JOE!!!

[Gregorian]

65. BIDEN BITCH SLAP! Calls Ryan out for his bs unemployment figures.

[meow2u3]

67. Love it! Joe brought up Mitt's tax rates

Bury Lyin' Ryan, Joe.

[siligut]

68. YES! Joe point out what the fuckers in Congress are doing.

Paul has this memorized and he is fucking part of the problem.

[VespertineIconoclast]

69. GET IT JOE!!!

[Ikonoklast]

70. Ryan is fumbling, he blew that last point.

[Honeycombe8]

71. Smug Ryan. What a smarmy sarcastic little twit. "This is not what a real recovery is." A 5 pt. plan.

[begin_within]

72. Much better than the first debate.

[TlalocW]

73. Did he just "steal" one of Warren's lines? :)

It's a good line, but let's not have plagiarism charges come up again.

TlalocW

[Lars39]

74. Ryan lost his momentum a bit... Get him Joe

[Flatpicker]

76. Ryan just opened up

on the economy.

Wait for it. Joe's got the ammo.

[nobodyspecial]

77. Joe needs to cut down on the open laughing

a little bit makes a point, too much is over the top.

All in all, he's definitely a pit bull.

[highplainsdem]

78. Oh, God. The Ryanbot is reciting the 5-point plan.

[Flatpicker]

94. Just has to

Ask, How does going back to the Bush plans make things better?!?

[liberal N proud]

80. Does Martha have a crush on Ryan?

She keeps going to him on everything????

[RoccoR5955]

81. Ryan plan is a piece of garbage

It's Reganomics Redux.

[DanTex]

82. Wow, Joe is KILLING IT!!!!!!

[high density]

83. Mitt Romney is a car guy

Biden was cracking up!

[highplainsdem]

89. Hey, his wife owns a couple of Cadillacs.

[Lars39]

95. You just know he was thinking used car salesman.

[Lars39]

84. Mitt Romney's a car guy...lol

[WinkyDink]

96. Especially those in elevators.

[pa28]

85. Hopefully President Obama is watching.

This is how you call out Republican bullshit.

[bluedigger]

86. Smokin' Joe Biden has Ryan on the ropes.

He's gonna leave him cryin' in the corner.

[ecstatic]

87. Wow really? He brings up a car crash story while debating Biden?

WTF?

[WinkyDink]

88. Okay, Ryan JUST said that "Romney is always misquoted." I'm betting Joe is ready with some quotes..

[Liberal In Texas]

90. It's the old up close and personal example story.

[Ikonoklast]

91. Trying desperately to make Romney look human. Not working, pal too late for that BS.

[jillan]

92. Joe needs to quit smirking - it's not professional...

[Flatpicker]

100. I don't know. Looks like he's having fun.

[highplainsdem]

105. I think he's decided to copy Clinton's mocking of Romney.

[TBF]

176. "Professional" does not play in Peoria -

folks are not that stupid and they do not want a slick con man selling them something. Joe is doing this exactly right - he's channeling Clinton tonight.

[Honeycombe8]

93. "Mitt Romney's a car guy." Awww...Romney paid for someone's college. 30% of his inc. to charity.

His MOrmon church, to convert others to become Mormon.

[global1]

97. Mitt Went To Church? Huh?...

He's a Mormon they go to a Temple.

[FreeState]

115. No they go to church

The temple is not a weekly or even monthly thing

[Paula Sims]

170. No, a church is the weekly meeting. . .

however, they HAVE to support each other. It's part of the 10% tithing that Mitt has to do.

Oh yea, I'll believe it when I see it. . .

[Lars39]

98. "But I always say what I mean, and so does Mitt Romney."

[WinkyDink]

99. Ryan actually used a CAR ACCIDENT anecdote with Joe BIDEN?! What a jerk.

[Lars39]

108. It's backfiring on Ryan tho

[nobodyspecial]

101. Biden knows that some things don't come out right.

Biden: I always say what I mean and so does Romney. Zing!

[spanone]

102. joe is whooping some ryan ass here. he's hitting all the fucking buttons.

ryan looks like a looney toon

[fishwax]

103. "I've never met two guys who are more down on America across the board."

[fishwax]

110. "Just get out of the way. Stop talking about fixing things and come up with a plan."

Can't say I disagree.

[RoccoR5955]

104. How many people

can AFFORD to give 1/3 of their pay to charity?
How does that relate to the REAL economy?
How does hiding income overseas add to the US economy?

[Honeycombe8]

106. Ryan has a sickening sweet smiley look on his face. Odd. Well, it worked for Romney, I guess. nt

[KathieG]

107. I love Joe Biden!!!!!!

[global1]

111. Get Out Of The Way....

I like it.

[Paula Sims]

112. Ryan looks TICKED!!!!!

[Fearless]

113. Ryan the Concern Troll. LOL!

[Gregorian]

114. This is therapeutic. Joe lays out the facts. Joe mops up the lies. It's beautiful.

[Emit]

116. Joe was nailing it until that Raddish lady cut him off!

[fishwax]

117. The BS line about one-party control again

[high density]

118. Ryan, remind us about all those jobs that the bush tax cuts created

Zero jobs.

[RoccoR5955]

119. That's a line of feces, that one party control line

How many blue dogs voted with RapeubliCONs?

[Honeycombe8]

121. Ryan's plan is getting economy growing @ 4%, unlike Obama's "green" stimulus. nt

[aquart]

122. "It came from this man voting to put two wars on the credit card."

Yes.

[DanTex]

123. Can we get Biden to pinch-hit the next Obama debate!

Just sayin. GO JOE!

[WinkyDink]

124. "Create 12 million jobs"~~~WHERE, Ryan? OMG, such an unabashed LIAR.

[Lars39]

125. Stimulus money!!!

[SaveAmerica]

126. Ryan got his talking points from Right Wing Memes on Facebook

[Flatpicker]

127. Loving it.

[Honeycombe8]

128. Ryan asked for stimulus $ because it would create growth & jobs. ZING. Point-Biden. nt

[Honeycombe8]

138. Ryan: Medicare & SS - indisputable going bankrupt. nt

[fishwax]

129. BOOM! Biden talking about Ryan writing letters asking for stimulus money.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

143. Thank you, President Obama and VP Biden for the stimulus act. I was able to take a class in

web design and started my own business.

People seem to think that because I own my own biz, I vote Repuke. Hell no!

[chknltl]

130. THAT IS MY VICE PRESIDENT!

I am so damn proud right now.

[RoccoR5955]

131. The Cons keep wasting money on their damn investigations!

They could fund more jobs with that dough!

[StarryNite]

132. Be more candid!

[meow2u3]

148. Biden practically called Ryan a liar to his face

I just wish (Ryan) would tell the tr.. be more candid.

[renate]

184. that was masterful

I was listening to that part on the radio and his "correction" sounded spectacular!

[NYC Liberal]

133. Just called out Ryan for his requests for stimulus funds!

[Fearless]

134. I wish he would just tell.. uh... Be a little more candid!

[jillan]

135. Called him out on taking stimulus money!!

[Heddi]

136. He said "I just wish he would tell the tru...be more candid"

omg!

[theglammistress]

137. I am so excited...

I feel like I could run through a wall right now.

[high density]

139. Social security is not going "bankrupt"

WTF is this nonsense?

[bullwinkle428]

140. Social Security is NOT GOING BROKE!! God, I hate that they're still pushing that!

[uponit7771]

152. MSM spouting conservative memes

[Flatpicker]

141. But it's an indesputable fact.

[WinkyDink]

155. Um, no.

[DanTex]

142. Ryan getting nervous and starting to talk too fast.

Comes off as completely non-genuine.

[ecstatic]

144. Paul is like an annoying mosquito that

Joe keeps having to swat off. lol

[high density]

145. Fuck you young people

Old people please vote for us, and fuck the young people!

[jillan]

146. Ryan admits he is a moocher.

[syncreticist]

147. THIS BOTTLE BLOND IS A RIGHTWINGER

LIKE TA PUT MY BOOT IN HER ASS

[riderinthestorm]

149. Please move over to Debate Thread #3 for our dialup friends! nt

[nobodyspecial]

150. Haha. He's talking about the $716 billion

[RoccoR5955]

151. What about raising the cap on Social Security?

Raise it from 110k to 300k, and it will be solvent for 100 yrs.

[Flatpicker]

153. Here's the next Joe Biden slap. Ryan just opens up for it.

[1-Old-Man]

154. Joe, who is kicking ass, needs to keep in mind that the camera is always on him.

[1-Old-Man]

163. "Their ideas are old, and their ideas are bad"

[meow2u3]

156. Ryan is repeating the lie about Obama raiding Medicare for Obamacare

That dog won't hunt, Paulie.

[RoccoR5955]

157. I would rather the gov't look over my care

than some damn insurance company.

[PCIntern]

158. Equated ryan with Palin!

[alp227]

159. Mr president, THIS IS HOW YOU RAPID RESPOND TO BS!

[uponit7771]

160. SPEAKING HORSE SENSE!!!

[riderinthestorm]

161. PLEASE GO TO NEW #3 DEBATE THREAD for our dialup friends! nt

[Fearless]

168. OMG Biden is killing him!

[Fearless]

162. Bang bang bang!

Ryan's on the floor.

[StarryNite]

164. Call him on his fucking lies!

Ryan is such a fucking liar! And my dumb ass husband believes everything he said!

[RBInMaine]

169. He is. He is KICKING ASS. Did you hear him say "malarkey" over and again.

[RBInMaine]

165. "THEIR IDEAS ARE OLD. THEIR IDEAS ARE BAD. THEY WANT TO WIPE OUT MEDICARE !" Joe is kicking ASS !

[uponit7771]

167. Just call what he is saying lying!!!

[RBInMaine]

177. He has called it malarkey and challenged it as untruthful. JOE IS KICKING ASS !

[ecstatic]

171. I know you're under a lot of duress..."

[michigandem58]

180. Project much, Paul?

-

[dog_lovin_dem]

172. Go Joe!!

Joe's bringing it tonight. It's good to see his calmness, his sense of humor, and his honesty are all in play. I love his straight forward demeanor.
Ryan, on the other hand, looks overwhelmed...fake smile, smacking lips (dry mouth), and talking points.

[uponit7771]

173. Speakin to the camera is a winner!!!

[HeeBGBz]

187. I totally agree n/t

[PotatoChip]

174. Joe is the man!!!

Lyin Ryan is being exposed point after point after point!!!

[CthulhusEvilCousin]

175. JOE BIDEN

JOE BIDEN 2016!!! HE'S TOTALLY OWNING IT!

[sfpcjock]

179. Joe's doing fabulous!

He's setting the model for Tuesday with Obama

[RBInMaine]

183. BIDEN IS JUST KICKING ASS ! JUST FUCKING FANTABULOUS !

[uponit7771]

178. JOE TALK THROUGH HIM!!!!!

[uponit7771]

181. Joe won that round ....and KNOCK OUT

[RBInMaine]

185. Joe Biden is rockin' the fuckin' house !

[HeeBGBz]

186. I just got home and already I see Joe kicking ass

I love him to pieces! How has it been going before this?

[harun]

188. Holy sh*t!