Cuomo is being Frankened

[demtenjeep]

doesn't he understand this?

The playbook is the same.

[True Blue American]

1. I have to agree. I

So far he made them uncomfortable. One claimed she was afraid she would lose her job because Cuomo made a remark.

Good Lord, how many of us have heard much worse and laughed about it?

[demtenjeep]

2. it is the same thing

and that "strip poker" shit-I read he put out flight logs and that never even happened.

[Pongo]

12. Flight logs?

Are you talking about paperwork that the pilots keep? Huh?

[dsc]

20. It is alleged to have happened on a plane

and the log shows more people on the flight.

[sop]

28. Perhaps they meant "passenger manifest"

Other passengers listed on the manifest did not support the accuser's story.

From an International Business Times story, 2/25/21:

"'We were flying home from an October 2017 event in Western New York on his taxpayer-funded jet,' Boylan wrote in the post titled 'My story of working with Governor Cuomo.' 'He was seated facing me, so close our knees almost touched. His press aide was to my right and a state trooper behind us'...'Let’s play strip poker,' Gov. Cuomo allegedly told Boylan while on the flight."

"Cuomo’s press secretary Caitlin Girouard dismissed Boylan’s claims as false. The press secretary cited logs of Cuomo’s flights in October 2017, and said they showed Boylan was never left alone with the governor, a single press aide and an NYS trooper during those flights...'As we said before, Ms. Boylan's claims of inappropriate behavior are quite simply false,' Girouard said in a statement, which listed out the manifests of four flights from the month when Boylan and Cuomo had flown together."

"The release also contained a statement signed by four current and former administration officials who were aboard the flights in which Boylan had accompanied the New York governor."

[Bettie]

43. You know what makes me think this is planted by right wing operatives?

One phrase: "taxapayer-funded jet".

That is right wing framing and an indication that ratfucking might be afoot.

[sop]

49. I noticed that phrasing as well.

[demtenjeep]

119. yes

it worked once


why not again


They tried to do this with Biden and he said

fuck no

[mzmolly]

134. Yep.

And thank goodness he didn't take the bait and drop out. We had many on the so called left helping Trump with calls that he should step down.

[Mike 03]

131. Whoa, good catch!!!

[Rhiannon12866]

3. I have to agree, the timing sure is suspicious

Trump and his "followers" have resented Cuomo's taking the lead and receiving national attention during this pandemic. And suddenly these women are speaking up now??

[PCIntern]

13. I agree

But you may want to look up the definition of “notoriety”. (It was Suggested to me many years ago and I’m forever thankful to that individual)

[Rhiannon12866]

15. You're absolutely right, I used the word incorrectly. My only excuse is that I'm tired.

My point, which you understood, is that Cuomo got positive national attention for leading on the pandemic, while Trump turned any pandemic related press conference into a campaign event.

[Rhiannon12866]

19. I changed it, thanks!

[PCIntern]

22. I have had the same issues over the years with

misapprehension of meanings. As a Jew I thought the word “genuflect” meant to cross oneself because I always heard that Catholics genuflect. When my father laughed at me as an 18 year-old and said”Six years of Latin and you don’t know what the root word “genu-“ means? I wasted my money on your education I see.”

[Rhiannon12866]

33. Well, that brings back memories! I haven't thought of that in quite some time

And you can be forgiven for confusing the two actions since they usually happen simultaneously.

[PCIntern]

38. On another note:

Did you ever see that site that has alternative lyrics to songs because people get them wrong? Like the song “Day Tripper”, somebody thought it was “State Trooper, one way ticket yeah...” 😄

[Rhiannon12866]

44. LOL! There are a whole lot of songs like that!

There are still songs that, as an adult, I now realize, as a kid, I heard the words completely wrong!

[jmbar2]

77. I was raised in a nonreligious household

When I was in grade school, I heard that my neighbor was a Protestant. I thought they meant "prostitute". I don't know why I knew the word prostitute before I knew what a Protestant was, but it made me see that neighbor in a whole new light!

[wnylib]

40. This morning, Buffalo's NPR station reported

that a 3rd woman has come forward. She says that Cuomo touched her back and her face at a wedding in 2019 and asked if he could kiss her.

Since the other 2 complaints were only about things said, this one escalates the level to touching. At a crowded wedding reception.

I think it's time for some good investigative reporters to look into these women and their connections. Who got to them to prompt them to come forward? Then report who is behind this and why.

[snowybirdie]

45. And a picture

of that incident showed up on tv this am. Lots of people around and one pointing a camera at him. Please!!!!!

[wnylib]

52. I believe that looking into who is behind this

and publicly reporting it, is a good way to expose what it is really about.

[Pisces]

69. He asked for consent

[sunnybrook]

74. Exactly

And this was a social event, not a workplace. I actually brought a sexual harassment suit before because my workplace was a very hostile environment. I am a strong advocate for the rights of women in such cases. This feels like the Franken thing to me.

[Pongo]

75. You should read her entire account of the incident. First he put his hand on her bare back, which

she immediately removed herself. He did not ask consent to touch her, and she instantly made it clear she wasn't open to that. Most people would catch on to that fast. Then he commented that she was 'aggressive' and put his hands on his face and said he wanted to kiss her. Ugh.

[Tommymac]

106. Link please.

Otherwise this is just heresy.

[wnylib]

116. NPR in Buffalo is reporting the same basic

details, but not quite in the way it was just presented here.

According to NPR, it was a crowded reception. Anna Ruch approached Cuomo to thank him for something. As they talked, he put his hand on her back. She was wearing a dress that was deep cut in back, which is why his hand touch her bare back. It's not like he slipped his hand up her skirt.

She moved away a few steps. NPR did not mention her removing his hand. He made a comment that she was an aggressive woman. No info on the tone he used. Might have been a compliment. Might have been a put down. He put his hands on her face and asked if he could kiss her.

Sounds to me like flirting at a social event. But, since I was not there, I can't know for sure.

NYT reported this story today. Maybe they have more details, but I am not sure I would trust their version.

[whopis01]

118. So now we are getting all religious about it?

jk

I think you meant “hearsay” instead of “heresy”

[Pongo]

121. Lol, I found that pretty funny too.

[Pongo]

120. It's in the New York Times, and probably everywhere else by now. Surely you know that.

If you want to believe it isn’t true, that is entirely your option. This is the story SHE told, so that is not hearsay. Those investigating have the story, as does everyone else lol.

[Tommymac]

124. Again, I asked for a link.

Bye now.

[Pongo]

126. I provided you one, guess you missed it.

It’s from CNN and you should see it in my second response to you. Do you consider CNN heresy also?

[Pongo]

122. Here you go with a link from CNN. Or are they heretical too?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/02/politics/andrew-cuomo-anna-ruch/index.html

[Tommymac]

125. Thanks. For the link not the sarcasm.

Bye now for good.

[Pisces]

108. This is not great, but also not assault. It was at a function with a room full of people. I am a

Woman and have touched many people on the arm and back while talking. We are getting to a world of robotic interaction. I do not think Cuomo needs to resign because he inappropriately hit on women. He was single and most women have had someone hit on them that they were not interested in. He took no for an answer. I have told many men no.

So far nothing I’ve read leads me to believe he’s a monster rapist. Unfortunately it looks to me like he’s being railroaded. Cuomo has been in politics a long time and these stories are barely coming to light??? He seems like he’s gruff and bully, and plays hardball politics.

I do not want him to resign, I do want an investigation. Innocent until proven guilty. The timing of these allegations smells bad. I also think with the nursing home scandal his enemies( which I’m sure are many) smell blood in the water and want to finish him off. Pile on the scandal. I don’t buy it. I hope he hangs on.

[wnylib]

117. Good assessment and I agree with it.

I also am beginning to think that there could be a potential Dem candidate who might be part of the pile on, or a faction of them and not just one person. NY politics are rough.

There are Dems in NY government pressurring Cuomo to resign. Cuomo has had 3 terms. There could be other Dems who want him out so they can have a chance. If that is what's happening, they better have a very strong candidate with a good chance of winning because, if they cost us a Dem governor, I swear to God I will never forgive them. The strongest GQP candidate for governor would be a nightmare - Tea Party Trumpist Tom Reed.

[wnylib]

114. Of course he did. This "complaint" is

a non issue. But there are Dems in NY government who are calling for Cuomo to resign, which makes me believe that this pile up on Cuomo is not led solely by the GQP. Maybe not even primarily led by them.

[luvtheGWN]

90. I agree.

Cuomo is a flirt, nothing more, nothing less. And just like Al Franken, he's being brought down intentionally.

[wnylib]

115. Yes he is being brought down intentionally.

But by whom?

[Hugin]

54. On the one hand you have...

Allegations of someone touching a young woman's face once a few years ago.

On the other hand, you've got a whole lot of people who participated in a planned armed insurrection only a few weeks ago. Where the US Capitol was invaded and vandalized. People were killed. The leader of this coup was later let go from any responsibility by his henchmen in the same body which was attacked.

I'm going to go with the first hand.

YMMV.

[Rhiannon12866]

80. And also, on the other hand, we've heard about numerous women who have accused Trump of rape

Someone mentioned this on MSNBC yesterday. Why aren't the news outlets focusing on this, or is this just another Trump behavior that he's "normalized??"

[treestar]

63. +1

We all know how Drumpf is. It's all about him and all about revenge.

[George II]

84. Yes. Never a hint of anything like this during his entire 27 year public life.

[PatSeg]

100. Cuomo got a whole lot of positive press

this past year and any Democrat who becomes popular on a national level is at risk of being Frankened. The right likes to undercut their potential future presidential rivals with accusations of sexual misconduct. They know that Democrats won't tolerate sexist behavior from their own and the accusations are pretty easy to make. Though they are often difficult to prove, if there are enough of them, it will leave a stench that is difficult to wash away.

They tried it with Biden after the fake Ukrainian scandal didn't stick and fortunately it didn't work. With Cuomo, they are doing a Franken replay. Put out the first accusation and just as people start to question it's veracity, throw a couple more into the mix. So without questioning the new allegations, people think "Wow, if there are so many complaints, I guess it must be true".

Part of what often makes the ruse so successful, is they take something that has a very slight element of truth to it and then play it up to be far more than it actually was. In the process, they instill a bit of guilt and remorse in their target. It didn't work with Biden, because the story was so far-fetched that he was able to clearly and emphatically say it was not true.

[allnews]

4. Totally agree

Hope he holds strong and doesn’t cave

[True Blue American]

7. Now CNN

Is calling on him to resign. On MSNBC they have Parnes and Jonathon Allen claiming Biden barely won the election! Really ? 7 million more votes and 306 EV’s?

The gas lighting has begun!

[moonscape]

30. They're right. If about 20k votes

combined in 3 states (AZ, GA, MI) had been cast for 45 instead of Biden, 45 would have become 46. Yes, it’s appalling. No gaslighting, just a reality check to keep us on our toes.

Edit to add: I’ve not seen their interviews, just commenting on that one issue of closeness.

[True Blue American]

50. 44,000.

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/02/940689086/narrow-wins-in-these-key-states-powered-biden-to-the-presidency

[moonscape]

133. Yes. A 44k difference, so if

22k had voted differently then the result would have been catastrophic. I was off by 2k with my estimation

[Cuthbert Allgood]

87. Remember when we said that Trump barely won because of a few swing states?

Apply that here. Key states were ridiculously close.

[True Blue American]

91. Trump did not win the popular vote

Biden won both.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

104. Yes, but Clinton lost the electoral by, what, less than 75,000 votes total?

The electoral college vote what that close again. (I don't have the actual tallies in front of me, but very close states would have swung the electoral--which is the one that actually still counts.)

[abqtommy]

5. It sure looks like it.

[nuxvomica]

6. With the insurrection over, Roger Stone has idle hands

And this is his MO.

[arlyellowdog]

8. Then he should Ralph Northam

Vow to be better and move on

[JI7]

14. There is a difference in that Northam was not governor

when he did the blackface thing and it was years ago.

What Cuomo is being accused of is while he was governor and very recent.

[BeyondGeography]

9. Cuomo should just hang in there

“He wanted to kiss me!” What a joke. Only Democrats could find a way to have a serious conversation about a sexless sex scandal. Whether intentional or not, the people who are pushing this the hardest are running men out of the party and losing male voters. This is how we look absurd.

[3Hotdogs]

17. Fuck. I've wanted to kiss a lot of women....

Franken.
Spitzer.


O.T.O.H., who was the senator who liked to have prostitutes be powdering on his ass and have diapers put on him? Oh yeah, he's still in office. I wrote to his office asking him if Depends were better than cloth. They hung up on me. Now I gotta spend the money to find out for myself.

[JI7]

32. You called the wrong person becsuse that was David Vitter

who is no longer in public office and is a lobbyist for some Chinese spying company .

[Bettie]

47. David Vitter

and he got a standing ovation from his party when he walked back into the senate chamber after that little kerfuffle.

[Pongo]

78. That's a different guy. That guy was Vitter, who is no longer in office.

[secondwind]

10. I have posted this morning about Cuomo, with my

“thumbs down” smilie.

And then, while walking to the kitchen for my coffee, it struck me so hard.......

Cuomo is from the old school, putting a face in your hands was a good thing, done all the time by Italians and Jewish grandpas.

I’m going to sit on the fence again.

[Loki Liesmith]

11. The answer is just to soldier on

Calls to resign mean nothing if you don’t listen.

[PJMcK]

16. I don't have an opinion yet

But it is instructive that so many women are upset about Governor Cuomo's behavior.

I'm not a victim of Governor Cuomo's misbehavior. Apparently, however, there are credible claims by women who have nothing to gain from their accusations.

We should all be cautious. This may not be a "nothing burger."

[helpisontheway]

23. Why now though? Why does all of this come out once Trump leaves office and is in danger?

Trump has been accused of all kinds of stuff by women yet he remained in office. CNN was not calling on him to drop out of the race or resign.

[woodsprite]

41. Maybe Trump likes his chances in NY better if someone else is governor

A new gov might be able to be bought to stop the investigations going on, replace the AG, get rid of the organized crime specialists and Vance.

Doing all that and destroying Cuomo’s career and would be a win-win for Trump and spawn.

[Captain Zero]

76. I think you are on to something here. Bingo

Takes the spotlight off HIS trials that are starting up. There are no coincidences in politics.

[Lancero]

57. Why do women always hold back on reporting these incidents?

Fear. Fear of the power that many of these men wield. When one finally works up the courage to speak up, that generally encourages other women to speak up about what happened to them as well.

Fear. Fear of people dismissing their claims entirely out of hand. Fear that people will accuse them of being paid off, of looking to push a man down just so they could somehow get ahead. Fear that their claims, especially when made against politicians, will be dismissed as a political ploy.

Fear. Fear of abandonment for when they finally do speak out. It doesn't just have to be by friends or family either. It could be a larger group. A political party, even. And now that they have spoken up... We've got a lot of Democrats saying that they are being paid off as some Republican ploy. A lot of people have thrown them under to bus, have abandoned them under the bus.

Seeing some of the commentary that supposed Democrats are throwing their way... That they're being paid off by Republicans, that what happened to them wasn't 'really' sexual harassment, that it's just normal - everyday, acceptable - behavior, that 'oh, why are you smiling in that picture if he was harassing you?!?!'... Well, I'd say they have reason to be fearful that no one would believe them and that they would end up ostracized for speaking out.

[treestar]

65. Then why is it less fearful right now?

And we have to quit doing this; there is considerably less justice over time; witnesses disappear and memories fade. That's why there are statutes of limitations.

[Lancero]

99. Like I said, one person speaking out encourages others.

The Me Too movement helped a lot with that, though at this point some people here would rather that movement never have existed.

[treestar]

132. It should start being sooner

or there is no progress. If they are helping, then people feel OK to speak up right away. That adds to credibility. If we keep insisting it's too hard to tell about, then it goes on and the person harasses others.

[Dream Girl]

86. Some of them are hunted down and offered lots of moolah... tempting for young women with

Lots of college debt. And I am not saying they are lying. But someone is making it worth their while

[True Blue American]

92. Seems that way

Especially with the flimsy stories.

[Lancero]

102. Sad reality is that what many cases boil down to.

It's why so many women are afraid to speak out. More often than not, it's a powerless woman against a powerful - Either politically, or monetarily - man.

And the responses here are straight out of the MRA/Republican playbook. Political motivations. Economic motivations. Why wait so long? Why are all the claims just popping up at once? Why are you smiling at the guy who is harassing you? Why aren't you fighting back?

The easiest way to get someones mask to slip in regards to supporting, to trusting, women is to see what they do when the claims are made against someone they consider to be one of their own. The police are said to have a blue wall that protects them. They're not the only group who prefers that color, who moves in to protect their own when someone dares to speak out against them.

[kcr]

18. What a shame

Al Franken getting railroaded has apparently caused many to lose their minds and set us back 50 years.

[helpisontheway]

21. He should ignore them and keep working for NY. They did the same thing to

Governor Northam and Lt governor Fairfax back to back. They stood their ground and did not resign. Governor Cuomo should continue unless/until he is found guilty of something in court.

[Dream Girl]

88. He should NOT resign. Don't give the satisfaction or they will keep doing this shit.

I’d love to see some reporter investigate how this happens

[Arazi]

24. I'm incredulous at the Madison Cawthorn story fading away

How do Republicans always skate on this shit yet Dems are mercilessly flogged (sometimes justifiably but still the difference in media treatment is stunning )

[OldBaldy1701E]

72. Almost as if it was decreed

by the rethug owners of the media, eh? I love all the 'librul media' crap when the facts are most of those parent corporations are owned by raving right wingers. And, they have an agenda, don't you forget it.

[True Blue American]

94. For one thing the Media

Is beating it to death. No proof yet they are demanding he resign over and over.

[forthemiddle]

129. Madison Cawthorn is not Andrew Cuomo

In all reality, mid America have never heard of, nor could they care less about Cawthorn. On the other hand 10 months ago Cuomo was arguably the 2nd most powerful man in the USA.

It was the contrast of leadership vs Trump, and leadership won. The man won an Emmy for his Covid coverage.

Who in the Hell is Cawthorn compared to that. When you are put on a pedestal you are likely to fall.

[SheltieLover]

25. Of course!

Let's hope Dems do not fall for this!

[arlyellowdog]

26. Al Franken was the wrong place at the wrong time

The Republicans were running a pervert that election. The Democrats had to come out against all harassment.

[Dem4Life1102]

56. Agreed

At any other time Franken would not have been forced to resign for what he was alleged to have done. It was just really bad timing. He should run for Governor of Minnesota when it becomes available.

[zaj]

27. By his own staff?

Nah. This is legit.

[New Breed Leader]

29. Yep this is a hit job

I hope Cuomo doesn't resign.

[JohnSJ]

31. Who do you think is doing this, since all the accusers are credible Democratic women. There

will be an investigation, and the chips will fall where they may

[quaint]

35. Thank you, sir.

[Escurumbele]

36. It doesn't matter that the accusers are Democrats, it is not the 1st time someone from any party

has sold their souls.

Regardless, an investigation must take place and the truth must come out, but to take sides at this time is wrong.

[Karma13612]

48. Yup. ... nt

[JohnSJ]

58. It seems that a good number here are taking sides though

[Mr.Bill]

128. Yeah, who would have guessed four years ago

The the likes of Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham would still be kissing Trump's ass? Something is motivating them to do that.

[radius777]

135. +1. and NY politics are vicious where Dem infighting has been

more the rule than the exception, with that chaos often allowing Repubs (Pataki, Giuliani, Bloomberg) to assume and hold power.

Cuomo's biggest 'sin' is being in office for 3 terms and other factions wanting him out.

[Karma13612]

46. Would our special

Little “Frankenator” Gillibrand be thinking about a Governorship??

Maybe she is fed up with the hyper-partisanship in DC and wants to “come home”.

If she became the nominee, I’m not sure she would win.
There is still some major hate around her, including me.

And that leaves us with a REPUBLICAN Governor!!!

[intheflow]

81. Thank you.

The amount of gaslighting happening with these women feels really, really Republican to me. As if #MeToo never happened. Giving me flashbacks to Anita Hill. Franken was a mistake and a set-up. This is different.

[machoneman]

95. I'm sure he did it. He's old school and even now doesn't realize in today's world you just...

..don't do things like that anymore. No real excuses here yet I agree, let the chips fall as I don't see this rising to the level that a resignation is needed.

Heck, no date rape, no drugging, no 'junk' exposure, no revealing emails. A thorough investigation should be done to clear him...or not.

[Escurumbele]

34. And that is why Democrats, including Pelosi, need to refrain from opining.

Her opinion yesterday that the accusers are credible does no good for real justice. If its true? then Cuomo should suffer the consequences, but if not then lets asks ourselves where did "innocent until proven guilty" go?

[empedocles]

37. 'Frankened'. Sharply labeled. Thank you.

[Karma13612]

39. I'm mad at

Him. And not sure what to make of it.

But I hope he proves to be stubborn enuf to hold out until the investigation is finished.

I am supposed to believe the victims are not lying. If they are lying, they are setting back our cause of equality and respect by decades. If they are telling the truth then WHY THE HECK did they wait so long to come forward? Was it to pile on after the COVID Nursing Home thing????

He has a huge ego as many in politics do. Big Egos get people in trouble.

I hope we don’t lose a strong Governor who has gotten us through a lot in the past year. He got thru the corruption thing years ago when he should have been replaced.

If he steps aside, Who will take over now? It needs to be someone who voters know across the state.

[samnsara]

42. i agree...

..he was a light in the darkness with his daily virus updates. He was the ONLY light. I hope he is able to ride this out.

[al bupp]

51. With all due respect, I call bullshit on this thread

Last edited Tue Mar 2, 2021, 01:12 PM - Edit history (1)

Read Lindsey's statement and tell me it doesn't sound like toxic male privilege. Sure Trump's worse, but that's a pretty poor deflection.

https://medium.com/lindseyboylan4NY/my-story-of-working-with-governor-cuomo-e664d4814b4e

(Edited to fix the link)

[Beringia]

53. You can take out the @ and the link will work, otherwise it just goes to medium.com

[HUAJIAO]

70. Thanks for posting this....

[ahoysrcsm]

112. I recommened removing the post.

Your private IP is exposed, and your location can be determined.

[progressoid]

113. The link works for me.

https://medium.com/lindseyboylan4NY/my-story-of-working-with-governor-cuomo-e664d4814b4e

My story of working with Governor Cuomo
Lindsey Boylan

“Let’s play strip poker.”

I should have been shocked by the Governor’s crude comment, but I wasn’t.

We were flying home from an October 2017 event in Western New York on his taxpayer-funded jet. He was seated facing me, so close our knees almost touched. His press aide was to my right and a state trooper behind us.

“That’s exactly what I was thinking,” I responded sarcastically and awkwardly. I tried to play it cool. But in that moment, I realized just how acquiescent I had become.

Governor Andrew Cuomo has created a culture within his administration where sexual harassment and bullying is so pervasive that it is not only condoned but expected. His inappropriate behavior toward women was an affirmation that he liked you, that you must be doing something right. He used intimidation to silence his critics. And if you dared to speak up, you would face consequences.

That’s why I panicked on the morning of December 13.

While enjoying a weekend with my husband and six-year-old daughter, I spontaneously decided to share a small part of the truth I had hidden for so long in shame and never planned to disclose. The night before, a former Cuomo staffer confided to me that she, too, had been the subject of the Governor’s workplace harassment. Her story mirrored my own. Seeing his name floated as a potential candidate for U.S. Attorney General — the highest law enforcement official in the land — set me off.

In a few tweets, I told the world what a few close friends, family members and my therapist had known for years: Andrew Cuomo abused his power as Governor to sexually harass me, just as he had done with so many other women.


...more

[Ford_Prefect]

123. I don't know why but I'm still getting the same warning and lack of connection. My ISP has an issue?

Same as the in the post I deleted above. The site claims I'm a threat?????

Error 1020 Ray ID: 629d102d3e9339f0 • 2021-03-02 19:34:33 UTC
Access denied
What happened?
This website is using a security service to protect itself from online attacks.

[Beringia]

55. I tagged him as a Neanderthal after seeing his press conferences

But the timing of the thing makes me think it is a smear campaign.

[dalton99a]

61. +1. Cuomo is a bully and a jerk by all accounts, but he deserves his day in court.

[radius777]

136. You could also just say he's a NY'er,

and being tough is what it takes to survive in what may be the toughest political environment in the country.

[dalton99a]

59. Did Republicans ever ask the Serial Rapist/Pussy Grabber/Insurrectionist-in-Chief to resign?

[speaknow]

60. The Repubnazi's want to slow the Ny investigation of

the golden statue that's going on. So I smell a
Rudy. Oh Rudy where are you? Come out, come out
where ever you are.

[treestar]

66. lol

[yaesu]

62. Innocent until proven guilty, Innocent until proven guilty, Innocent until proven guilty NT

[tritsofme]

97. That principle has never applied to the court of public opinion.

[Jrsygrl96]

64. A bit ironic

Cuomo is governor of a large blue state where there may be many, many lawsuits against the former guy and his offspring. Political revenge over covid response?

[Joinfortmill]

67. I agree.

[Lonestarblue]

68. I said this during the demands for Franken's resignation.

If mere words or a hand on the back can be deemed as sexual assault, this country is in a big mess. By the age of 25, every woman should know how to say “no” to an unwanted suggestion from a man. There’s certainly been enough publicity about such situations. I spent my life in corporate America as a female manager in a male-dominated field. You learn very quickly to politely and clearly fend off any suggestive behavior. I suspect that politics is no different.

The complaints against Cuomo seem to have taken place with other people around, except possibly for the one in his office. Such behavior doesn’t generally happen in public. I’m skeptical of the reason these women suddenly decided to go public with their accusations that don’t seem very substantial.

[Tom Rinaldo]

71. It's only "Frankened" if it's false. An investigation is warranted. And now is the time to do it...

...before Democrats lock in our candidate for the next NY gubernatorial election. Biden welcomed scrutiny when false allegations were made against him, and they melted away when a spotlight was focused on them.

The biggest problem with Franken was that there was no investigation. Democrats stampeded to drive him out of the Senate based on sketchy reports from dubious sources.The main accuser was clearly compromised in fact. So far that has not been shown to be the case with those accusing Cuomo. The first two were people employed by him.

The standard is not to take women seriously unless they are accusing a Democrat. And I find nothing suspicious on its face when allegations burst near simultaneously. People are often hesitant to take on a powerful man alone, and are understandably reluctant to be the first person to stand against him. Personally I also think it plausible that women with allegations against Cuomo (which may or may not turn out to be true) might find themselves encouraged to speak out by members of a political party who have a stake in who becomes NY's next governor. But it is at least as likely that such encouragement is coming from fellow Democrats than from Republicans. The way that Cuomo operates has made him a lot of enemies among State Democrats, and mostly that isn't just over policy.

[Hoochie Coochie Man]

73. When Cruz and Hawley resign Cuomo resigns

Until then, F the GQP. Cuomo stays. I don’t give a shit what they accuse him of. When I start seeing Republicans resign for their bs then maybe we can talk about resignations

[33taw]

79. I'd like to add Kavanaugh to that list.

[Dream Girl]

96. Yep. He should just channel them. Would any Republican stepped down?

[tritsofme]

109. What a bizarre, almost Trumpian worldview. Sounds like he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue

and you’d be fine? Pretty sad.

[George II]

83. Yes indeed. He's been in public life for 27 years, state-wide office in NYS for 13 (AG and Governor)

Not a hint of anything like this.

Now he's at the top of his approval rating and is getting ready to launch his re-election campaign in a few months, and all of a sudden the first accusation, someone who is running for Manhattan Borough President this year makes the first accusation.

Then a second one an encounter with just the two of them alone in an office.

Now the third, from someone who met him only once, for apparently just a minute or two, at a "crowded wedding reception". Here's a photograph of that, is this the setting for a "sexual encounter"?



No investigation, only a week or so after the first accusation, and now he's being called upon to resign?

BTW, the first one claimed he acted inappropriately during a flight on a "taxpayer paid jet", except that NYS doesn't own any jets, the Governor and others fly on helicopters or state-owned turboprops!

There should be an investigation, but until that time anyone calling for him to resign should just WAIT for the investigation!

[radius777]

137. +1. Her expression in that pic looks very festive,

like anyone else would at a party when someone they wanted to see show up.

[Jrsygrl96]

85. A bit ironic

Cuomo is governor of a large blue state where there may be many, many lawsuits against the former guy and his offspring. Political revenge over covid response?

[BlancheSplanchnik]

89. Of course that's what they're doing.

The ratfuckers hate a strong Democrat.

[Happy Hoosier]

93. He doesn't do himself any favors...

Unlike Franken, he has a reputation for being overbearing and bullying. Even if these claims are exaggerated, his "brand" plays in to that.

[Nuffer]

98. Frankened

If other people can see the Farce in this
Cuomo thing... why can't he see that he is being shoved just like Franken? I am a 72 year old white woman and I find what the ladies are trying to do just down right absurd! Do not tell me the ladies did not like the attention they were getting at the time..sorry! I am also liberal...

[MrsCoffee]

101. "Do not tell me the ladies did not like the attention they were getting at the time"

What the hell has gotten into people here?


SMDH.

[True Blue American]

110. Agree!

Funny, after years they suddenly decide they were afraid.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

105. Hey, Nuffer, the 1950s called, and they want their attitude toward women back.

Jesus.

[kcr]

107. The Cuomo defense in a nutshell, ladies and gentlemen n/t

[GoCubsGo]

103. Not sure if this is "Frankened" or "LOOK! Squirrel!"

I'll wait on the facts when it comes to Cuomo's alleged behavior. However, the timing is awfully suspicious. The more that comes out about Trump and the GQP, the more desperate they get for distractions. Are they that afraid of Cuomo that they've decided to pile on him now, in order to get rid of him? And, how much of this is to distract Letitia James from her investigations into Trump, Inc.?

I'll also add that I saw "Whitmer" trending on Twitter earlier this morning. Apparently, they are going after her for allegedly misreporting nursing home COVID-19 deaths--just like they're doing with Cuomo. It reeks so badly, I can smell it here in South Carolina.

[bdamomma]

111. I think so too

just a question about this whole thing I thought they were investigating the deaths in NH due to Covid, how did women being assaulted get thrown into the mix?

[gldstwmn]

127. Exactly.

Don't resign Governor.

[beaglelover]

130. Yes, absolutely. It's disgusting!