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FWIW: This is why Dr. Suess, Mulberry Street, was withdrawn / banned. (Original Post) speak easy Mar 2021 OP
Also use of term "slant" eyes Demovictory9 Mar 2021 #1
"Dr. Seuss" was a notably-racist editorial cartoonist during WWII... regnaD kciN Mar 2021 #7
'the narrative that every American of Japanese ancestry was a sleeper agent' speak easy Mar 2021 #8
What about "Scrambled Eggs Super" hauckeye Mar 2021 #2
The character 'Ali' is (apparently) regarded speak easy Mar 2021 #4
Why not remove the offensive caricatures / language speak easy Mar 2021 #3
Copyright issues, for one. Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #5
So 2061- authors death + 70 years. speak easy Mar 2021 #6
Not quite sure what you are saying. Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #9
Dr. Seuss Enterprises is the one who withdrew the books Darwins_Retriever Mar 2021 #10

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
7. "Dr. Seuss" was a notably-racist editorial cartoonist during WWII...
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 04:44 PM
Mar 2021

...and his cartoons strongly endorsed interment by spreading the narrative that every American of Japanese ancestry was a sleeper agent awaiting instructions from their “mother country” to strike against us “normal” Americans.

speak easy

(9,249 posts)
8. 'the narrative that every American of Japanese ancestry was a sleeper agent'
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 04:47 PM
Mar 2021

was the popular justification of Japanese interment by the Federal Government.

hauckeye

(635 posts)
2. What about "Scrambled Eggs Super"
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 04:04 PM
Mar 2021

That was one of my son’s favorite books when he was little. I haven’t been able to find out what content caused it to be on the list. Of course I don’t remember all the illustrations.

speak easy

(9,249 posts)
3. Why not remove the offensive caricatures / language
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 04:05 PM
Mar 2021

and leave the rest of the book in tact?

In this case it is wholly incidental to the story.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
5. Copyright issues, for one.
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 04:17 PM
Mar 2021

Copyright generally lasts until death + 70 years.

Any changes would have to be permitted by the current holders of the copyright. Based on the announcement (from Dr. Seuss Enterprises), I presume they are the copyright holders and decided not to do that.

speak easy

(9,249 posts)
6. So 2061- authors death + 70 years.
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 04:25 PM
Mar 2021

2061 - the next time one of these images can be reproduced. Meanwhile the most vile Nazi/racist propaganda is available to one and all.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
9. Not quite sure what you are saying.
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 05:29 PM
Mar 2021

Seuss (or those he devised the copyrights to, or his heirs if he left no will) has the right to control (1) reproductions and (2) derivative works from his works of authorship.

The entity holding the copyright (likely Dr. Seuss enterprises) gets to choose to permit reproduction (i.e. they can reprint it all they want) or to modify it (removing the racist words/images). So they are free to permit (or prohibit) republication, and they are free to alter (or permit someone else to alter) the works to remove the troublesome words and images - and to reproduce (or prohibit reproduction) of the altered images.

Copyright is all about the right to control copying and modifying. So it doesn't mean they can't be reproduced - it means they can't be reproduced without the permission of whoever owns the copyright until (likely) 2061.

Vile Nazi/racist propaganda is subject to the exact same copyright rules. Whoever created it (assuming they are in the US) can choose to permit or prohibit republication.

If you want to prohibit content (regardless of who created it) that is a different area of the law.

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