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Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 05:52 PM Mar 2021

Seven Proud Boys and 4 Oath Keepers with military ties, 36 women, and an L.A. County cohort

Seven Proud Boys and 4 Oath Keepers with military ties, 36 women, and an L.A. County cohort: Detailed composition of MAGA riot emerges in more than 250 arrests

A new analysis of 257 finds 221 men and 36 women charged in the riots
Individuals ages 18 to 70 from 40 states and DC were charged
A dozen had military and extremist backgrounds
33 are military veterans
Of those with military backgrounds, more than a third had extremist ties
Charges range from trespassing to conspiracy against the U.S. government
Highest totals from L.A. County in California, Franklin County in Ohio, and Bucks County in Pennsylvania

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9317847/Detailed-composition-MAGA-riot-emerges-250-arrests.html
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TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
2. I've always found it intersting that they could *afford* to...
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 06:56 PM
Mar 2021

travel there from 40 states.

Some even chartered a private jet.

Mr.Bill

(24,289 posts)
4. Well, if you honestly believe you are going
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 07:12 PM
Mar 2021

to overthrow the government, why would you be worried about credit card debt?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
3. Pathetically, regarding SOME of those "36 women," these RW militant,
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 07:09 PM
Mar 2021

white nationalist, neonazi, fascist groups all believe in male domination of women, some extremely. Which really shines a light on the female "freedom fighters" who'd join them.

Proud Boys in particular is male-only and deeply misogynistic. Some chapters have allowed women to join bimbo-ish (my word) auxiliaries, but reportedly that's lead to a general hardening up of hostility to the idea among others. So a woman from AZ claiming to have been recruited by them is supposedly drawing scholarly interest, and skepticism.

Jessica Watkins of the Oath Keepers apparently really is; she's an Afghan vet and they try to recruit mostly trained cops and vets, though overwhelmingly male of course.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
5. Jessica Watkins, An Oath Keeper Charged In The DC Attack, Fears Harsh Treatment Because She Is Trans
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 08:43 PM
Mar 2021
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jessicagarrison/oath-keeper-transgender-jail-jessica-watkins

As for other women auxiliaries, they probably are a lot like motorcycle clubs or street gangs auxiliaries.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. I'd noticed that headline but didn't read about it. Former Army Ranger
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 09:12 PM
Mar 2021

or not, she had to know, or should have same as any female, where she'd stand in their hierarchy. Maybe she liked the idea. As for the rest, imagine that's fairly likely, for neonazi motorcycle clubs especially.



taxi

(1,896 posts)
8. In regard to those traveling at their own costs -
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 08:56 PM
Mar 2021

In regard to those traveling at their own costs, we need to look at costs and benefits separately. The benefit to those paying their own way is twofold at a minimum. First it shows support directly in the size of the event, and then, had they achieved their goal, these attendees go home as local heroes. They get the stage. They are leaders in the takeover.
On the larger scale persons, materials, and equipment from areas close to DC were thought sufficient for the job.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
12. There weren't any benefits.
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 09:21 PM
Mar 2021

The benefits were imaginary. They were delusions of grandeur and bullshit from a con artist. It was never going to be successful. None of that was ever going to apply.

A few of them have figured that out. Those are the ones now loudly proclaiming that it's Trump's fault.

taxi

(1,896 posts)
13. They still hold the leadership positions, outcome being real or not
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 09:29 PM
Mar 2021

When they get home they talk to the local groups. Rethink. Refine. Strategize. The leader was there, he saw what went wrong. He can fix it with their help. He is still in charge.

eta - it's how people do things. nothing else meant.

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