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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLady at the Post Office today was pissed...
I entered the Post Office here in Florida today, had to wait in line for a bit. A lady in front of me was engaged with one of the postal workers, wanting to know why her Christmas cards that she had sent back on December 10th still hadnt been delivered. The gal behind the counter was very diplomatic, apologizing, and trying to explain that weather, COVID, and a lack of enough workers had slowed down deliveries. The lady was having none of it, said it was inexcusable that those cards still werent delivered in March. The gal behind the counter agreed with her, tried her best to calm the situation. Then the lady asked very loudly when is that sonofabitch Dejoy going to get removed? I about choked, the guy next in line started laughing. The gal behind the counter said she didnt know anything about that. The lady wanted to file a complaint, I was next to get waited on and didnt hear the rest of the conversation until I was done, and she was still hammering away at the gal behind the counter. I mailed a large letter a couple of weeks ago, paid for Express two day delivery, and it showed up 10 days later. Postal service is a mess right now...
SWBTATTReg
(22,112 posts)from boondocks, MO to STLMO, and my pkg. to her back (STLMO to her) took 3 days. Go figure.
soldierant
(6,846 posts)Here in Colorado I have no complaints abou the USPS. FedEx, on the other hand ...
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)But Post Office open hours appears to have been reduced and I just had two time sensitive letters take over 2 weeks to reach me.
Ligyron
(7,626 posts)It must be a regional thing. That the poor individual aboves package went on a world tour is nutz. It's like "I don't want it ... here you take it"! "NO, you"!
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Good luck with your medicines. Maybe the Post Office is absolutely prioritizing such packages. Take care.
hlthe2b
(102,225 posts)up after an apparent tour of the world--or at least postal service distribution centers throughout the US. Four days after mailing, it tracked as in Denver due to be delivered that night only to see hours later that that tracking to Denver had disappeared and the next time I saw anything was 10 days later in Maryland/DC. Limbo land after that until a total of 22 days later, it finally showed up. So glad I paid extra for that priority shipping.
UpInArms
(51,280 posts)Me a card on Feb 12 ... it arrived Feb 25
onethatcares
(16,166 posts)I mailed a first class package from st pete floriduh to an area near Asheville NC and it arrived two days before it was supposed to.
I was told it would be 4 to 5 days before it being placed in the receiving mailbox.......surprise,surprise, surprise
My wife waited about 30 days longer for here birthday card though. From Silver Springs MD to sunny st pete . Feb 4 to march 1.
and our mailperson like us.
UpInArms
(51,280 posts)soldierant
(6,846 posts)Yes, that can make a difference too.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Both appeared late by about 9 days.
Clash City Rocker
(3,396 posts)Is never the person who made the problem. All that woman did was increase the blood pressure of a poor postal worker who suffers from DeJoys incompetence far more than she does.
50 Shades Of Blue
(9,973 posts)XanaDUer2
(10,641 posts)RKP5637
(67,103 posts)frazzled
(18,402 posts)Its not right to heap abuse on the postal worker.
Its good to lodge the complaint so that it can be passed on, but it should go something like: I have an issue with the mail delivery, and I know its not your fault, but I have mail sent months ago that still hasnt been delivered. Is there a way that this could be reported to your superiors?
taxi
(1,896 posts)Give that person a reason to join your causes, not to hate them.
dflprincess
(28,075 posts)I was going to post much the same thing.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I went out to pick up food last week. It took 45+ minutes to get the food. I didnt yell at the kid at the takeout window, because he didnt create the mess, management did.
JI7
(89,246 posts)IronLionZion
(45,425 posts)where packages have gone missing. And they made an effort to track it down if I had a tracking number. The actual postal workers are not the problem. It's DeJoy.
There are some neighborhoods that have gone weeks without any mail delivery at all.
spanone
(135,818 posts)...accomplished.
onethatcares
(16,166 posts)tell everyone that government is the enemy and it doesn't work. Defund and fuck up most branches of government and tell the people "government is your enemy and will not work"
We've seen this movie far too many times.
I'm tired and want government to work, I don't even mind paying my fair share of taxes to make it so.
usaf-vet
(6,181 posts)..... two packages (via USPS website) arrive at 06:30 in my local post office. Three days later it was still not delivered to our house four blocks away. One week later, we called the provider, and they said USPS told them it was lost. The provider reshipped two new products. They arrive 2 days late but arrived.
In no way do we hold the USPS responsible for this crap. It started under the tRumps administration and escalated when he appointed DeASSh*le.
I have had mail delivered after dark with backup personnel. You know what is never late advertising flyers. And political "I'm lying but VOTE for me" flyers.
I know Biden has a full plate, but he has to address this. We were ready to go to mailed prescriptions to get a discount from our insurance company. STOPPED that idea and stayed with our local drug store.
This is clearly sabotaging a government service!
Deminpenn
(15,278 posts)My mail seems to be moving along as usual.
Massachusetts.
ecstatic
(32,681 posts)Atlanta metro to Atlanta metro / GA county to same GA county mail seems to be unaffected. However, the problem comes when mailing to (or receiving from) certain states, for example Pennsylvania and Michigan.
Deminpenn
(15,278 posts)here. Supposed to be delivered Sat, will update.
Deminpenn
(15,278 posts)coast to coast.
Digger
(478 posts)for her to be pissed at the girl behind the counter. I agree with her feelings about Dejoy, but hey, don't take it out on the poor girl who was trying to do her job.
Oh well, as I've said before...the postal service is nothing to write home about.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Then Louis DeJoy was installed as Postmaster General, and the place went to hell in a matter of weeks.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)when he should have used a fire hose.
I believe Trump put him in because Trump hated that the Post Office was doing some deliveries for Amazon. Trump was after Bezos because the Washington Post was the only national paper that came remotely close to calling out Trumps lies. Trump wanted to destroy anything connected to Bezos, so he put DeJoy in to destroy the Post Office.
I really dont understand republicans. Their voters are going to be by far the hardest affected if the Post Office fails. They just dont get that.
markie
(22,756 posts)yes, it is a serious mess... I really hope DeJoy goes and the USPS gets it together... the USPS should be a public service and utilized is more ways to help people... banking maybe?
FakeNoose
(32,628 posts)... but wherever they did get destroyed is where the problems are happening now.
It seems that Priority Mail and Express Mail - with higher cost and tracking numbers - seem to be going through like before, almost all are on time. Anything that doesn't have a tracking number, including all the 1st class flat mail and 3rd and 4th class publications - those can be 1 week to 1 month late.
You suck, Louis DeJoy, and I hope you go to prison!
keithbvadu2
(36,763 posts)Throwing away mail sorting machines and going back to manual labor.
Surely there must be a cost-benefit analysis to make such a business decision. Let's see it.
Blue Owl
(50,348 posts)snacker
(3,619 posts)from Wisconsin. It arrived in Philadelphia last week.
captain queeg
(10,162 posts)Tampering with the mail comes to mind, thats against the law. I dont think you could go after him in a class action suit while he is still in that position but I think the FBI needs to look into some of his business dealings. All rumps appointees treated their positions as a way to enrich themselves.
leftieNanner
(15,081 posts)of election statutes. It's a felony to mess with voting.
His firm also got a very lucrative contract from the USPS. Go figure!
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)paid for in the Federal budget that tax payers rely on and have relied on for many decades.
I think DeJoy wants to privatize mail sorting services and actually has in some locations.
I still pay my bills by mail and if his changes result in me being charged late fees, I'm both going to raise hell with my Congresscritters and put a nastygram in with my billing statements requesting the charge be removed.
KY......
dalton99a
(81,443 posts)Mickju
(1,800 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,125 posts)Anything I have to put in the mail to pay I send weeks ahead. 5 weeks if possible. Thank goodness for online bill paying.
Oh yeah, almost forgot. Had a piece of mail sent to another address, then returned to my PO for delivery to me. Soon 2 or 3 other pieces would up at the other address. Sounds to me like sorters are doing this from memory to try to keep up.
Tree Lady
(11,448 posts)Same day different states, went real fast on both until it was transferred from UPS to post office, took few days for one and 5 days for another. I am talking about post office in town they live in. Took 5 days to go from post office to delivery.
I am glad people are making a fuss, we all should be.
BumRushDaShow
(128,829 posts)FUCKING DEJOY.
louis-t
(23,291 posts)Still don't have it.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)To be returned to the sender as "unclaimed"- it was addressed to my post office box and was never put into the box. The office that mailed it uses the same post office branch where my post office box is located.
I really don't understand the "unclaimed" part - it was not certified, signature required, just a simple business #10 envelope with a printed address. It's not as though the post office box is new or anything - I've been renting it since that branch opened about 1979.
That one went to my congressman since the day before the sender called he'd sent out an email asking about problems with the post office. That reminds me, I should call and see what happened with his inquiry. I sent him scans of the envelope with the sticker saying "unclaimed."
japple
(9,819 posts)send a $10 calendar, but we have been doing it for so long that it has become a tradition. That calendar is still out in the mail system somewhere, yet to be delivered. She mailed one to me in late November and it arrived around the 2nd week in December. It is hit or miss with the postal service. I hope that the Biden Admin can find a way to ditch dejoy and get us back to our old reliable postal service, with some sort of compensation for the stress they have been under for the past 4 years.
hatrack
(59,583 posts)And that's after arriving like clockwork two days after my closing date for years.
Good job, DeJoy, you swindling pustulent choad-stain.
MontanaMama
(23,307 posts)We went 5 days with no mail last week. Unheard of. You cant call the USPS and get someone to help you either and its been that way for years. DeJoy made it worse.
panader0
(25,816 posts)and it takes longer to arrive.
dameatball
(7,396 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,871 posts)came back undeliverable today. Over 2 months it took. And it was sent nearby from the outskirts of the city.
sanatanadharma
(3,698 posts)I can tell you I relied successfully on the PO, back when, when selling what I had to whomever wanted that for what money I could get while reducing my life to three suitcases and carry on.
Current postal woes may explain how my Federal $600 corona-virus stimulus check arrived today. Apparently it was sent to the US embassy in Uruguay (diplomatic pouch?) and then posted via local correo in an envelope with an embassy stamp and Uruguay stamps.
Seems that the actual government doesn't trust the US PO.
I chose to expatriate early in 2018 and (so far) all has been beyond my better expectations. If I had scheduled my departure for 2020, the PO would quite likely have screwed up the legal logistics. before Covid closed borders.
With so many USA current life-frustrations and Covid-fears being a hemisphere away, I feel like I am in a rational munchkin-land sanctuary.
AllaN01Bear
(18,147 posts)stage left
(2,961 posts)He needs to be indicted.
AllaN01Bear
(18,147 posts)i dont know the answer for that .
Nasruddin
(752 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)Extremely weak. What did that young lady have to do with it? Once the mail she takes over the counter goes into a bin to be taken away to a sorting facility, her involvement is over.
Duppers
(28,118 posts)Employees didn't cause the delays.
raccoon
(31,110 posts)And if she is married to anyone the complainer I mean I pity the fool.
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)The woman opens her trunk and realizes that she never got the cards to the post office.
OOPS.
Since these would have been going to several different locations, it is unlikely that ALL of them had an issue unless someone at the specific Post Office is dumping deliveries on purpose to put the Post Office in a bad light.
Duppers
(28,118 posts)Even thought about posting about it.
Good for that lady! Would've loved to have seen this in person.
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)She was rude and a drama llama, attacking a front-line worker for this is not only futile, it is disgusting, in any time, but especially now.
pansypoo53219
(20,969 posts)but dejoy needs to go.
quakerboy
(13,919 posts)But I NEVER had problems with USPS through 2019. All of my business mailings arrived in 1-2 days. Fairly regularly i would get same day delivery from certain people
then the purge started.. and since a bit before the election.. Everything is 4+ days. Most everything is sent to or from locations within 50 miles. And its taking those extra days.
Listening to Dejoy say it had been decaying for years and he was "fixing" it.. was just mindblowing.
We need dejoy out, restore the PO to what it was just a few years ago. That should be a priority.
TlalocW
(15,380 posts)To help them raise money. Just got it a few weeks ago after six months. I figured they had better things to do.
TlalocW
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)birthday card from So Cal beach to my brother in Sacramento on February 19. I hoped it would reach him by his birthday on the 26. I got a text from him on the 23rd telling me he got the card and would save it for his birthday. I couldn't believe he received it so fast.
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)Yes, let's just make lives even harder for front-line workers.
Maybe stick up for the front-line worker next time and tell the drama llama to contact their elected officials on local, state, and Federal levels about it.
Trueblue Texan
(2,425 posts)...pity the poor clerks and letter carriers who have no power to change the situation but are stuck with calming down irate customers.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)And send him DeBill for all the equipment he vandalized, the lost paychecks and prescriptions, etc.
qanda
(10,422 posts)That worker didn't deserve to be treated that way. 😡
ecstatic
(32,681 posts)She may have been annoying from the clerk's perspective, but if nobody complains and everyone just accepts this new reality, will anything change?
Not only that, but the customer's peaceful but firm push back potentially made others aware of the situation. Some may have heard deJoy's name for the first time. Hopefully the clerk assisted the woman in filing an official complaint.
Eventually, scenes like this should lead to change. I hope.
qanda
(10,422 posts)People pick on the ones who deserve it the least. If someone is berating you loud enough for others to hear and for the amount of time it takes for others to complete their transactions then it's not a pleasant experience no matter how it's portrayed. The worker, who likely never handled their mail, didn't deserve that.
qanda
(10,422 posts)Not sure where you got that she was calm.
ecstatic
(32,681 posts)That worker didn't deserve to be treated that way.
I can't speak for others, but I draw a distinction between an upset customer and a disrespectful customer. The woman had a right to be pissed, but from what the OP said, I didn't feel that she was disrespectful. She was just persistent in trying to get answers, in my opinion.
ecstatic
(32,681 posts)The delivery time frame is a joke but at least it eventually arrives within two weeks.
Stuart G
(38,414 posts)....Bad guys lurk, and so do .."Good Guys.." If you think that someone in the "New Administration
of the Federal Government".... doesn't check up on us once in a while...well...I think you might be wrong..
Why?...Let's say YOU ARE THE PRESIDENT.....and you know about a website where lots of intelligent
conversation is had, by lot's of "Bright Democrats" would you assign someone to check out that
web site on a daily bases?....
....Just one idea from someone here, might save a lot of money for the "Federal Government" or more
important...."Save Some Lives"!!!
OxQQme
(2,550 posts)Good thing she was un-armed.
That's like chewing out the gas station attendant for sold out gas pumps because the tanker truck was delayed.
marble falls
(57,075 posts)randr
(12,409 posts)I have been experiencing the opposite. All mail is prompt and packages actually arrive earlier than noted.
We get two deliveries a day and live 6 miles away from local PO.
Only problem I have had was a package ended up mid-way with a damaged bar code label and I was notified that the situation was being remedied and package would be a day late.
Evolve Dammit
(16,723 posts)C Moon
(12,212 posts)Ziggysmom
(3,406 posts)Can you be incompetent and do a shitty job and be immune from getting fired! WTF is wrong with the USPS? DeJoy needs to be healed accountable for his destruction of our mail service. Oh but wait, hes protected from lawsuits, too! 🤨. Like a freaking DIPLOMAT!
Niagara
(7,595 posts)I'm NOT defending the creep, but lost mail sometimes happens, mostly from human errors.
The Post Office Clerk could have suggested to the frustrated lady in front of you to go to USPS website and to submit a Missing Mail Search Request. It's free to submit, all one has to do is to describe the item.
Right before Christmas in 2019, months before DeJoy became the PG, my ex-husband sent my son a Visa gift card that had a large amount of money gifted on it. Christmas came and went and the gift card never came. I politely inquired with my postman and asked him about the possibilities of why it never showed up. He told me that he's been on the job for 40 years and has seen items show up 6 months late and that sometimes cards get stuck in a machine, get left behind in bags or that this item could floating around in another state hundreds of miles away.
I instructed my ex to go to the USPS website and submit a Missing Mail Search Request. I also told him that he would have to describe in detail the approximate size of the envelope, it's color, where it's going, where it came from and describe all the contents inside the envelope.
Only a few days later after he submitted the search, it finally showed up. My postman knocked on my door with a huge smile and handed me the envelope. Come to find out that it was $0.17 in the negative since my ex had not put enough postage for the weight of the item. If mailing anything with a gift card, take it to the Post Office so enough postage is paid and also so it can be insured. Insuring isn't all that expensive.
I understand the frustration of not receiving an important item in the mail, but she didn't have to take it out of the Post Office Clerk as it's beyond their control. I think it's a bunch of malarkey that people take their frustrations out on someone else.
BarbD
(1,192 posts)He replied with the following:
1) "President Biden has recently named three nominees to fill the vacancies on the Postal Service Board of Governors to help ensure the body -- and the agency more broadly -- will function more efficiently and in a nonpartisan manner. In the weeks ahead, the Board of Governors, which has the power to both appoint and oust the Postmaster General, must implement changes to maintain the agency's high service standards."
2) "...last August, I co-sponsored and voted in favor of the Delivering for America Act (H.R. 8015) which would have prevented the Postal Service from implementing any operational or service changes that it didn't have in place before 2020 until the end of COVID-19 pandemic. To ensure that USPS could continue running effectively, the bill would have provided $25 billion in emergency funding for the Postal Service. Unfortunately, the Republican-controlled Senate failed to take up the measure before the end of the 116th Congress. In December, however, Congress struck a compromise agreement: the omnibus appropriations and COVID-19 relief package included $10 billion for USPS. They bill converted a previously approved line of credit into a grant."
3) "I also believe that we need to address the Postal Service's longstanding financial issues. For this reason, I've again co-sponsored the USPS Fairness Act, which would end the requirement that the Postal Service pre-fund retirees' health benefits. This obligation is costly and unlike that of other federal agencies, which operate using a pay-as-you-go system."
We need to continue pressuring Congress to support the Postal Service.
Martin68
(22,791 posts)to do anything about it. Phone your Congressional representatives and complain to them about Trump's effort to shut down the USPS to help his re-election effort.