******OFFICIAL BIDEN/RYAN DEBATE THREAD #4******

[riderinthestorm]

"You don't impose that kind of cut on the military!"

Link to #1 http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021516861

Link to #2 http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021517225

Link to #3 http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021517716

[syncreticist]

1. ryan will probably try to charge biden with assault and battery afterwards

joe is brutalizing him

[sfpcjock]

157. Haha

[Norbert]

2. Mr President look at Joe

This is how it's done.

[Satch59]

3. Ryan's cheeks are turning red...

and his eyes look a little watery...poor baby...just walk off

[phylny]

4. I'm so proud of our Vice President

And proud to be a fellow Fighting' Blue Hen!

[GoneOffShore]

8. +1

[tjdee]

12. +2

[Ikonoklast]

5. Ryan has no clue as to what he just said about Afghanistan.

Bubububububububbbubububububb......NADA.

[uponit7771]

6. Stay on it Joe, come at the mod too if she doesn't have her shit skrait

[Up2Late]

7. NICE! Joe just put the MSM lies from the moderator in it place!

kind of harsh, but I liked it! (re- defense spending cuts)

[Flatpicker]

9. The concept of

Peace through strength has decimated our economy.
It did to the USSR also but, we weren't paying attention.

[Gregorian]

10. Joe Biden is qualified to be president. This debate is making clear that Ryan is not.

[JohnnyBoots]

19. I hope that is the take away from this for the average viewer.

[mjjoe]

58. Thank goodness

Nights like tonight are why people like Palin and Quayle could never get their own presidential campaigns off the ground. Hopefully that means Ryan is the same.

[llmart]

11. Joe is wiping the floor with that little twerp.

[KewlKat]

13. i wish i were a fly in Mitt's house so I could see his reactions to his vps comments

[Flatpicker]

18. Probably something

Like "Who is the stench now?"

[Up2Late]

24. He's probably in the can, sorry Lavatory, either on the can or...

...throwing up into it.

[GoneOffShore]

34. Ann's got the latex jodphurs on and her riding crop.

And Mitt's got the saddle and bridle on with the bit between his teeth. Plus the pony tail.

She's putting him through his paces, I'll bet.

[Honeycombe8]

14. Biden...going great job. Can't say he didn't call out lies and strongly state THE TRUTH. nt

[Bobbie Jo]

15. Ryan is waaay outta his league.

[harun]

22. The difference is astounding

[Amy.Amillia9]

16. Fight, Fight, fight!!!!

Joe looks so pissed off I am half expecting him to punch that sorry jerk-right in the face!

[high density]

17. Ryan wants another surge

Because the others were so great. :rolleyes:

[Honeycombe8]

20. Ryan: "Unraveling of Obama foreign policy" BS!

[WinkyDink]

21. This B**** just tried to CONTRADICT JOE over the Joint Chiefs/ Obama! "But he's a CIVILIAN leader."

(Carried over from #3.)

[harun]

32. Really low, disrespectful and BS

[redqueen]

51. Why the hell is she now debating Joe on the facts?

WTF?

[Amy.Amillia9]

128. better yet

Why is she not debating the facts with Ryan?

[zinnisking]

165. Rs have been screaming all week that she's a liberal. Now she's trying to please them and prove

she isn't.
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It's a Republican strategy and it works!

[Liberal In Texas]

23. ryan is trying to filibuster

[Fearless]

25. HEAR ME!

[RoccoR5955]

26. Not this calendar crap again

What a line of bovine fecal matter.
We don't want to give them a day to circle on their calendar.
Does Eddie Munster know how fast we can mobilize our troops?
What an idiot!

[Lars39]

27. Martha that's a bizarre statement...

[highplainsdem]

28. Kos tweet: CNN dial group still loving Biden, and they didn't want to at the beginning.

I'm watching MSNBC...

[kerouac2]

29. What Channel are you watching??

CNN is split screen the whole time.
msnbc and fox are switching back and forth from what I see.

[Lars39]

40. Cspan is good

[eissa]

30. I'm not a guy but I have a boner right now

Holy hell, Joe is on fire! I love that man!

[bullwinkle428]

48. I wanted to make that post 15 minutes into the debate, and I AM a guy!

[Norbert]

31. We will leave in 2014.

I'm starting to feel sorry for Ryan.


well. No not really. .lol.

[WinkyDink]

33. This woman actually thinks she is Joe's equal in knowledge! Joe just told her---HAHA!

[Honeycombe8]

46. "This woman"? If she were black, would it be "This black woman"? Hmmmm. nt

[WinkyDink]

63. Ohferschrissake. How is "this woman" a slur? I SHOULD have used a term that's banned here.

BTW: I'm a 62-year-old Liberal dame who once voted for Jesse Jackson. Just sayin'.

[Bobbie Jo]

35. EMBOLDEN!!! Playin the oldies!

[Honeycombe8]

36. Afghanistan: Biden is frowning. He's angry 'bout Ryan's BS statements. As he shud be.nt

[Enrique]

37. "We will leave in 2014"

Biden being straight, Ryan being a total weasel with American lives, his "sincere" voice the fakest thing anyone ever heard.

[AnnieBW]

38. I don't think that Ryan gets Intel Briefings

Or, at least not the ones that POTUS and VPOTUS get. Ryan thinks he knows what's going on, and Biden does.

[Myrina]

39. She keeps calling him 'Congressman' Ryan.

ROFL!!!!

[Ikonoklast]

41. Ryan STILL has no clue about foreign policy. He resorts to some bogus personal anecdotes.

Policy? What's "Policy"?

[uponit7771]

42. CHECK HER JOE!!! THANK YOU!!

[Amy.Amillia9]

43. What does everyone think of Martha's mediating?

Is it just me or does she seem to play favorites?

[nolabear]

55. She wants specifics just like the rest of us do. She's doing wonderfully.

[Amy.Amillia9]

104. Martha

In the first few minutes of the debate she kept interrupting the candidates but as the debate goes on she seems to be improving.

[gkhouston]

108. +1. I think she's been pretty even-handed when pressing for details and

cutting people off to move along.

[Myrina]

86. She's irritating the shit out of me.

She knows more than the VP about what goes on in Cabinet & Joint Chiefs' meetings?

[Flatpicker]

106. But

Her pushing Ryan for specifics was a good moment.

[Myrina]

141. I didn't catch that, sorry ...

... I'm minimizing and muting that window when Lyin's flapping his gums.

[Amy.Amillia9]

161. Martha

She does have her moments where she does a good job.

[highplainsdem]

44. Joy Behar tweet: Biden is amazing tonight. Ryan looks like he might cry

[Fearless]

52. +1000!

[nolabear]

45. Been watching, just now posting, Biden is my new best friend. DAMN!!

[Fearless]

47. I SAT THERE!

[WinkyDink]

49. Put her in her place, along with Ryan, Joe!

[Honeycombe8]

62. He's not debating the moderator. She represents the audience, the country, who is thinking same.nt

[llmart]

50. Now he's schooling Martha....

good job, Joe.

Sesame Street is "confusing" to boy wonder.

[Up2Late]

53. sounds like the moderator is getting frazzled

Hang in there Martha!

[AlinPA]

60. She is helping Ryan now.

[AlinPA]

144. Here is the abortion stuff again.

[Honeycombe8]

54. Oh, Ryan is explaining it to us because "this is confusing." He's using big words, now. nt

[JohnnyBoots]

61. He's filibustering basically

[WinkyDink]

56. Oooh, Little Paulie knows some Afghan names! I'll bet he's so proud of himself!

[Honeycombe8]

73. I noticed that, too. He studied. nt

[Norbert]

57. Ryan clearly looks like he wishes he were somewhere else.

The Hannity talking points just don't seem to be working. ROTFLMAO!

[tridim]

59. If Ryan grows out his bangs he can make a baseball cap out of hair

I think the widows peak is structural.

[highplainsdem]

64. God, Ryan is juvenile.

[Bobbie Jo]

65. Bam!

[high density]

66. Joe that was awesome!@!!!

[Fearless]

67. You could hear a fucking pin drop! Go Joe!

[JPZenger]

68. Ryan: Why aren't we sending more Americans to die in the most dangerous part of Afghanistan?

[RoccoR5955]

94. Sounds as if Ryan wants MORE Americans to die there. n/t

[Lars39]

69. Ass handed.

[Up2Late]

70. Oh, NOW RYAN is getting Bratty!

He should just walk away now, not going well for Eddie Munster.

[NYC Liberal]

71. EPIC: "So you'd rather we send AMERICANS to the most dangerous area of Afghanistan?"

Ryan: "We're sending LESS of them"
Biden: "YES. Because we're sending MORE Afghan soldiers"

[Honeycombe8]

91. ZING! Big point---Biden. nt

[GoneOffShore]

72. Bill Maher I'm actually starting to feel sorry for Ryan.

But it would be cool if Biden made him cry.

[nolabear]

74. I do hope she gets to some domestic policy sometime.

[mrs_p]

75. that head thing ryan did

yeah - didn't work for me

[tjwash]

76. Calling 911 - there's a gray haired old man beating up on a child on my TV

[Gregorian]

107. Haha. Yeah but wait a while, because it feels so good.

[Glimmer of Hope]

77. Afghans to do the job you dimwit!

[Iris]

78. How long does this debate last?

[Fearless]

84. 10:30ish

[Cleita]

90. Another twenty minutes. n/t

[Up2Late]

96. Till about 11pm, I think

Hang in there.

[Glimmer of Hope]

100. I don't want it to end!

[bullwinkle428]

79. C'mon, Martha...let's move onto some stuff like womens' health.

Untouched in first debate. How about now?

[Honeycombe8]

103. Yeah...how about those forced rapes by objects for no medical reason? Let's discuss THAT!nt

[spanone]

80. joe knows his fucking foreign policy....amen

[Liberal In Texas]

81. Ryan is out of his league

Joe looks great!

[nc4bo]

95. +100!

[Myrina]

110. ... and he knows it, which is why he's getting snarkier ...

I think he's trying to get Joe to lose his cool and then they can claim Biden was 'a bully' or 'has a bad temper' or some shit.

Take 'er easy, Joe, you got this.

[Digit]

82. I am so damn proud of Joe

He is setting Lying Ryan straight, over and over!

[Cleita]

83. I wish we could get Joe to debate Romney too. n/t

[trailmonkee]

85. in case you didn't here that 'we are sending in more AFGHANS to do the job!!

[kerouac2]

87. Biden: Yeah, dummy, we're sending more Aphgans to fight instead of Americans.

Big exchange for Joe.

[Ikonoklast]

101. You fuck with the bull, you get the horns. Ryan has big ass holes in him right now

[BlueInPhilly]

88. AFGHAN SOLDIERS!!!

Awesome! Dicky Paul just got schooled!

[Ikonoklast]

89. Biden punched Ryan dead in that huge nose of his over foreign policy stupidity. HARD.

[Aerows]

92. Loose talk

Best line Joe has used tonight, because that is all Mitt and Ryan are.

[harun]

93. Joe is eating Ryan's lunch

[sfpcjock]

99. Double advantage Biden

[Myrina]

97. I totally get why Joe's pissed at Lyin' ...

... but he needs to be careful not to totally blow his top at the little fucker.

[WinkyDink]

105. Concerned?

[Myrina]

129. Only because I know what the Wingers will do ...

... the media whores will be all over it, "Biden's a bully", "Biden has a bad temper" blah blah and "poor widdle Paulie got shouted down by the mean old man" ... Joe's got this one in the bag, he can keep his cool and still walk away with a slam dunk.

Or am I not allowed to express an opinion without being called a troll?

[Iris]

117. Why so?

[OldDem2012]

118. I personally hope Joe leaves Ryan on the side of the road like road-kill....

...it's been a long time coming for that little twerp.

[Ikonoklast]

121. Abd Ryan is recoiling. He is taking his beating, and has no answer.

[StarryNite]

131. What they are talking about is serious..

Biden most certainly does need to take a strong stand and call Ryan on his lyin'.

[uponit7771]

132. Naw, SOMEONE needs to "blow their top" show some passion or SOMETHING!!!

[Amy.Amillia9]

163. Take it to the Coliseum

Fight!

Joe does seem to get so angry all he can do is smile and laugh at him- which is unprofessional and rude but at least it is emotion.

[redqueen]

98. I love how Biden has such a solid grasp of international politics.

I wish she'd asked Ryan about the difference, first.

[KewlKat]

102. Joe is a master in foreign policy..........got it Mittens?

[JohnnyBoots]

115. Ryan is just cultural name dropping of

countries, regions and peoples to sound like he know what he is talking about. He doesn't.

[Fearless]

109. Ryan Romney agrees with Hillary. Suck it GOP!

[Honeycombe8]

111. Syria, now. Ooooh, Ryan knows even MORE Middle Eastern tribal names. nt

[1-Old-Man]

112. Its as if Ryan had some answers he planed to give but now is trying to turn them into statements

He's always just a bit off subject.

[KewlKat]

113. so, will we see our President perform in a similar manner in his next debate?

[mjjoe]

151. Hope so. Pick up where Mr. Biden left off. nt

[WinkyDink]

114. Ryan is proud of saying "the Qataris." Must've learned it today.

[highplainsdem]

116. Kos: This is like NY Yankees going up against the Bowling Green Hot Rods Class A minor league team.

[Ikonoklast]

136. Leave Bowling Green alone! Nice little town.

[Honeycombe8]

119. Biden called him out...."he doesn't answer the question." n t

[Up2Late]

120. OMG! Ryan is trying to flip the subject now

Ryan is still evading every question.

[fishwax]

122. Joe: "You'll notice that he never answers the questions ..."

Yeah, now that you mention it ...

[flamingdem]

123. Only those with an IQ lower than 90 think Ryan can touch

Joe Biden. He's miles above that snitty brat

[highplainsdem]

124. Greg Mitchell: Ryan's debating skills and smarts at about 11th grade level.

[Bobbie Jo]

125. Sounds like Sadam, Ryan...wanna go there?

[nolabear]

126. Boy those Ryan speeches aren't going to be much fun tomorrow.

[uponit7771]

127. Ryan freaking looks like he's going to cry!!!

[michigandem58]

139. I thought so too! n/t

[chloes1]

130. If Ryan

doesn't lay off the water, he's gonna need a potty break!

This guy is just blathering away... is he high?!

[Bobbie Jo]

133. Ryan is full of bullshit generalities.

[TransitJohn]

146. They always are!

That's all those fucking regressive lowlifes have is bland, vacuous platitudes. There is never, ever, ever any substance. Ever.

[Lars39]

134. Refused to answer about humanitarian.

[Liberal In Texas]

135. OH NO religion and abortion

[KewlKat]

137. abortion...........

[nolabear]

138. FINALLY. The abortion question.

[redqueen]

140. WTF? RELIGION?!!!

[1-Old-Man]

142. Why on earth are they letting this religious bullshit in?

[bullwinkle428]

143. Make the little prick explain his ACTUAL POSITION on abortion.

[RoccoR5955]

145. Separate public life from faith?!?!?!?!?

WTF happened to separation between Church and State??!!??!!??!!??

[riderinthestorm]

147. PLEASE GO TO NEW #5 DEBATE THREAD! nt

[Flatpicker]

148. If Romney loses the election

Ryan's career is done.
He can't progress any farther after watching his debate skills.

[Amy.Amillia9]

162. We can hope!

This Ryan kid is pretty annoying.

[chknltl]

149. need a 5th thread please

[PotatoChip]

150. What is up w/Ryan and all of that water drinking?

Not that there is anything wrong w/that--- just seems excessive on Ryan's part--- Nervousness perhaps?

BTW-Ryan looks like crap. Conservative women think he is a stud, huh?

[Sweet Freedom]

156. Panic attacks

His throat is closing on him.

[Iris]

159. #sippycup is trending on Twitter.

[Amy.Amillia9]

164. Lets just hope he pees his pants.

It would be funny!

[Digit]

167. Lying tic maybe?

[Iris]

152. Aww..."Bean" - I'm sure NO other parents have ever called their unborn child by that nickname!

[1-Old-Man]

153. Joe, please, just make a short comment and move on - duck and weave, get out of there.

[sfpcjock]

154. Rand-yan uses his faith "to inform" how he screws the middle class

"He respects" people who disagrees with his extreme views on abortion. Not at all.

[Amy.Amillia9]

166. I was expecting him to get emotional....

But instead he just got weird.

[bullwinkle428]

155. Ooooohhh...so you're open to exceptions now, Eddie?

Baggers gonna haz a sad!

[Cleita]

158. Life begins at conception? No, if you think that, then life begins in

the sperm and unfertilized egg. I mean really, how far back do you have to go to find where life begins? This is a silly, impractical and unscientific premise.

[Iris]

160. Bring it home now, Joe!