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Nevilledog

(51,094 posts)
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 12:36 PM Mar 2021

The Secret Service has no records of call logs for its top officials on Jan. 6th.





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American Oversight
@weareoversight
New: The Secret Service told us it has no records of call logs for its top officials on Jan. 6, the day of the Capitol attack.

We’re skeptical. Members of the Secret Service were at the Capitol with former VP Mike Pence.
https://americanoversight.org/document/no-records-response-from-regarding-records-of-call-logs-from-jan-6-2021
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Call logs simply document incoming and outgoing calls, like this record we previously obtained:
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American Oversight
@weareoversight
While the Secret Service was only one law enforcement agency present at the Capitol that day, we would be surprised if there were no calls made or received that day by top officials at the Secret Service.
9:03 AM · Mar 4, 2021


https://www.americanoversight.org/document/no-records-response-from-regarding-records-of-call-logs-from-jan-6-2021


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The Secret Service has no records of call logs for its top officials on Jan. 6th. (Original Post) Nevilledog Mar 2021 OP
Sounds fishy MagickMuffin Mar 2021 #1
You can bet they don't have any records. TheBlackAdder Mar 2021 #35
Ready Shreddy MagickMuffin Mar 2021 #39
And if you believe that, I gotta bridge for sale... Maeve Mar 2021 #2
They didn't say the call logs never existed PatSeg Mar 2021 #20
Trump most likely ordered them destroyed. Lonestarblue Mar 2021 #22
Yeah, that's what I was thinking PatSeg Mar 2021 #26
Phone numbers or Phone company not involved JFK1961 Mar 2021 #33
They didn't call for back up when the Capitol was taken over? Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #3
or complicit. WhiteTara Mar 2021 #11
Bingo. Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #12
Does the SS "call" for backup on a cell phone? FBaggins Mar 2021 #31
Good point. I am sure they have work phones and other devices they use. Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #43
I Used To Tell My Grandkids, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2021 #4
Good to see your posts again, Sir shanti Mar 2021 #16
Too true Hekate Mar 2021 #17
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2021 #29
+1 ancianita Mar 2021 #30
How convenient. triron Mar 2021 #5
FOIA request Filed on 1-11-21 Pantagruel Mar 2021 #6
No wonder Biden asked for a different SS detail when he became POTUS. sop Mar 2021 #7
Yup. nt SunSeeker Mar 2021 #38
Well the army also lied malaise Mar 2021 #8
Maybe they pulled a Nixon usajumpedtheshark Mar 2021 #9
Everyone knows that when it comes to cell phones... dchill Mar 2021 #10
Yup, I bet the NSA has records.... nt mitch96 Mar 2021 #24
They're LYING ... GeorgeGist Mar 2021 #13
More likely that AO just asked wrong FBaggins Mar 2021 #14
No. They're lying. Period. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #19
They're LYING and INCOMPETENT! SunnyATT Mar 2021 #27
How conveeeeeeenient spanone Mar 2021 #15
Somebody's going to jail for this. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #18
And the FBI. And the military. And the Capitol Police. And the National Guard. ancianita Mar 2021 #32
What, they just abandoned Pence in the Capitol building? Generic Other Mar 2021 #21
Actual staff sure know who deleted/removed them. Another investigation. Whistleblowers please! Evolve Dammit Mar 2021 #23
The Mob Is Covering All It's / Their Tracks DanieRains Mar 2021 #25
as none of this passes "the smell test", the moderation of tone in response is spectacular👍 bringthePaine Mar 2021 #28
Investigate and let those go who have no records kiranon Mar 2021 #34
Next Request DallasNE Mar 2021 #36
No wonder Pugs are stalling on the new AG confirmation. nt Grasswire2 Mar 2021 #37
The nsa probably has digital recordings of phone calls, texts, emails, pretty much everything. movingviolation Mar 2021 #40
Some high level shenanigans going on here RANDYWILDMAN Mar 2021 #41
Must be the same tech support as fixed the cameras in Epstein's cell. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2021 #42
So that's weird.. no calls for assistance Cha Mar 2021 #44
And(or,or,or,or) taxi Mar 2021 #45
They are not the only ones who are skeptical. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #46

PatSeg

(47,423 posts)
20. They didn't say the call logs never existed
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 02:15 PM
Mar 2021

They said they couldn't locate them. They could be telling the truth. The parties involved could have destroyed them, which is very possible if for any reason they are incriminating. That would also be an indication that the insurrection was planned from within the administration.

Lonestarblue

(9,986 posts)
22. Trump most likely ordered them destroyed.
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 02:28 PM
Mar 2021

Surprise, surprise.

Edited to add a question. With the phone numbers of the SS agents on duty, couldn’t cell phone records be accessed to identify calls, especially between from agents at the Capitol and the White House?

PatSeg

(47,423 posts)
26. Yeah, that's what I was thinking
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 02:42 PM
Mar 2021

Or someone very close to Trump.

That's a good question though. Surely there are cell phone records for these agents. I think they will surface eventually.

JFK1961

(11 posts)
33. Phone numbers or Phone company not involved
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 02:59 PM
Mar 2021

Communication between agents and with offices are through secure military communications channels--they don't use the cell network any more than they do in "The Beast" or on Air Force One. This is not to say that there are not or shouldn't be classified records of those communications. But any such records would be directly under the control of the WHCA--and likely easier to delete or hide by corrupt officials. There would be no "cell phone records" of such communications, as we understand in regular life. There is no way, for instance, that you could call one of their phones directly from your own cell, office or home phone.

Irish_Dem

(47,034 posts)
3. They didn't call for back up when the Capitol was taken over?
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 12:41 PM
Mar 2021

They didn't call their superiors to inform them?
They didn't call POSTUS SS detail to warn them?

Either they have doctored the messages or they are totally incompetent.

FBaggins

(26,735 posts)
31. Does the SS "call" for backup on a cell phone?
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 02:53 PM
Mar 2021

Did the FOIA request cover the devices that they do use?

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
4. I Used To Tell My Grandkids, Ma'am
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 12:44 PM
Mar 2021

When you lie to me, don't tell me something only an idiot could believe. Show some respect and at least make it plausible....

Perhaps the FBI's siphon of Capitol communications has something to add.

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
30. +1
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 02:50 PM
Mar 2021

We have some Trump enablers at the highest levels of law enforcement, and their pretending otherwise, as in "just following orders," is the lie.

 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
6. FOIA request Filed on 1-11-21
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 12:50 PM
Mar 2021

Maybe new FOIA request to the Biden SS would be more responsive?
At any rate ,JB needs to deal with this.

usajumpedtheshark

(672 posts)
9. Maybe they pulled a Nixon
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 12:58 PM
Mar 2021

and a Secret Service employee accidentally deleted the logs for that day while contorting his/her body into a position usually only attempted by extreme contortionists

dchill

(38,488 posts)
10. Everyone knows that when it comes to cell phones...
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 12:59 PM
Mar 2021

... There are records of everything. In multiples.

FBaggins

(26,735 posts)
14. More likely that AO just asked wrong
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 01:32 PM
Mar 2021

Last edited Thu Mar 4, 2021, 02:47 PM - Edit history (2)

Maybe the records only come in from the phone company on a periodic basis and they asked too soon... or maybe the GSA holds those records and asking the SS for them is the wrong process.

Just as likely... how often does the SS communicate by cell phone? The request doesn’t seem to cover records of radio communication (or, for that matter, any texts or emails)

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
32. And the FBI. And the military. And the Capitol Police. And the National Guard.
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 02:53 PM
Mar 2021

All fine and good that they "name" white supremacists as the national security threat, and yet they are another layer, the pro-white Republican layer, that lets them break laws.

kiranon

(1,727 posts)
34. Investigate and let those go who have no records
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 03:01 PM
Mar 2021

They can find other jobs but not in the Secret Service. Same goes for any enablers. Hope a whistle blower comes forward. The whole point of transparency is to have records. No records was an intentional act directed by someone/s.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
36. Next Request
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 03:19 PM
Mar 2021

Who had security clearance to the records that are now missing? Did any of those people access records for January 6th? There should be records tracking the custody of those records including what action, if any, they took. Any whistleblowers out there? There should ne a log of every touch and by whom.

movingviolation

(310 posts)
40. The nsa probably has digital recordings of phone calls, texts, emails, pretty much everything.
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 04:11 PM
Mar 2021

So can't these be accessed? If not, then why record all raw comms? Oh yeah, I forgot, the terrorists are white and republican.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,672 posts)
41. Some high level shenanigans going on here
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 04:36 PM
Mar 2021

Lock them all up.

The insurrection was a crime and covering for the other the Orange man is also a crime.

Do we have the courage to jail all these people ???


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