Those bishops discouraging Catholics from taking the J&J vaccine because it may have used

[JohnSJ]

stem cells from aborted fetuses uses the same logic as the governor of Texas telling people no more masks, and all businesses open 100%

[Moostache]

1. Its worse...

The cellular source of the materials used to save millions of people from infection and thousands from death is of absolutely no goddamn consequence.

Carbon is fucking carbon.
Nitrogen is fucking nitrogen.
Oxygen is fucking oxygen.

Those three atoms in various combinations are the backbone of cellular structures, biochemistry and life itself.

I want people to start recognizing that organized religion that pushes this kind of hateful nonsense is a crime against humanity. And I don't give any fucks how "sincerely held" their fucked up, demonstrably insane beliefs are either.

And fuck them again for the bullshit on condoms and AIDS in Africa too...


Additionally, as a former Catholic myself, forced to stand/sit/kneel/sing on cue until I reached the age of reason and stopped going, why exactly is the church or any of its representatives so concerned with the source of stem cells used in research, yet when priests were raping boys on an industrial scale for DECADES, these same worthless assholes remained silent as the grave? I hope there is a "hell" because when I get there, seeing them there will immediately make me smile through any torture awaiting my "soul"...

[JohnSJ]

3. I agree

[Ritabert]

8. Totally agree

As soon as I went to college I stopped paying attention to the church. Their hypocrisy is off the charts.

[dalton99a]

2. They are actually contradicting their boss

who calls for mass vaccinations, stem cell or no stem cell

[leftyladyfrommo]

4. Most Catholics I know probably won't pay any attention to that nt

[JohnSJ]

5. I would assume so

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

6. "May have used."

Were stem cells from aborted fetuses actually used? Why am I skeptical?

[JohnSJ]

7. It is an extremist viewpoint, just like many of their positions on birth control

[Ritabert]

9. Somebody said they used frozen embryos

....which were going to be discarded anyway.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

10. "Somebody said".

Is Somebody a reliable source?

[Moostache]

14. "Somebody" is part of the "Some people say" Guild...

VERY powerful, VERY influential...
(both of which rise and fall with the level of credulity of the person making the citation as authoritative in most cases.)

There are many (too many my wife tells me constantly) things that set me alight and ready to verbally throw down...the use of "whataboutism" and referencing "some are saying"/"I've heard many people say..." grew to top that list up until the 20th of January past. Now they are merely annoying again, while the thing infected the Oval Office and the airwaves, it was like bamboo shoots under the cuticles!

[intrepidity]

11. I believe the cells in question are HEK293

Human Embryonic Kidney cells, an immortalized cell line used ubiquitously in research labs.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HEK_293_cells

[Kittycow]

12. My elderly RW Catholic mom sent me the Email.

Easy for her to say, she's fully vaccinated while I'm eligible in OR but can't get an appointment so far.

I'm not engaging in the family group discussion. She also had a cow about (due to racial smears) certain Dr Suess books not being published anymore.

[JohnSJ]

13. You are smart to avoid those type of family group discussion. I hope you are able to get the

vaccine(s) soon

Here in California we have the same issue with vaccine appointments

[Kittycow]

15. My brother's in SF :)

We just had a phone conversation about not getting drawn into the family political discussions and bitched to each other instead. Even then I held my tongue on Biden and abortion. I've held on to my mental health for four years that way.

When Mom sent the vaccine is immoral email on the subject line, I deleted it but I really wanted to say if it's good enough for trump, it's good enough for me But I didn't lol.

(I think he had that kind anyway; I survived his regime by scanning headlines and forum posts instead of deep diving.)

[JohnSJ]

17. Good for you

[FlyingPiggy]

16. those bishops need to stay in their lane. pawning ignorance like that is not okay.

[ProfessorGAC]

18. Hilarious!

These bishops don't really believe 75% of american Catholics already pick & choose what rules to pay attention to & which to ignore.
If these guys think that people will avoid being protected from COVID due to the raw material source, I want some of what they're smoking!