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wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 06:25 PM Mar 2021

Biden could end the legislative deadlock tonight if he wanted

How Biden handles the dispute could define his presidency — and his party's political future. Some Democrats want him use his clout to persuade the holdouts. A congressional aide said moderate Democrats have privately joked that whatever Biden supports becomes the reasonable position in the party.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democrats-confront-harsh-political-choice-save-filibuster-or-pass-biden-n1259319

Enough with the games, let's actually get things done for a change.
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Biden could end the legislative deadlock tonight if he wanted (Original Post) wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 OP
Just because it is reasonable doesn't mean Sinema or Manchin will support it. jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #1
Stop it...it is not Biden fault. We need the more votes and I doubt Biden can do Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #2
The problem is... regnaD kciN Mar 2021 #3
It would be nice if it were true, but I don't think it is Blasphemer Mar 2021 #4

jorgevlorgan

(8,292 posts)
1. Just because it is reasonable doesn't mean Sinema or Manchin will support it.
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 06:28 PM
Mar 2021

Mainly because they aren't exactly reasonable.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
2. Stop it...it is not Biden fault. We need the more votes and I doubt Biden can do
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 06:32 PM
Mar 2021

anything about this...we have a 50 50 senate. He has done what he could...what you want the GOP back in charge...so much better where we get nothing and they pack the courts? Imagine if Hillary had been elected...the but her email crowd opined that Trump wouldn't be worse-boy were they wrong ...we would have five seats on SCOTUS...probably thousands still alive. We would have policy.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
3. The problem is...
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 06:55 PM
Mar 2021

...if we give in on this, we won't have "President Biden" for the next two years -- we'll have President Manchin. He will be able to control everything we do, but Biden and the rest of our Congressmembers will pay the price for it at the midterms.

And saying "it's not Biden's fault" is pointless. People elect a President to lead, and, if they can't get their own Party to go along with their plans, they're not going to look like much of a leader. I fear people will grow nostalgic for the days when "we had a strong President who could get what he wanted from his own Party" and will be eager to rush back to the same arrangement in 2024.


Blasphemer

(3,261 posts)
4. It would be nice if it were true, but I don't think it is
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 06:58 PM
Mar 2021

and Biden is simply not LBJ. I'm not even sure LBJ could be LBJ in today's environment.

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