I had a conversation with a COVID-19 research scientist yesterday...

[PCIntern]

I have known this lady in my practice for about 10 years. She is a scientist in the old-fashioned sense: she speaks in what she believes to be truths not in hypotheticals, she only discusses what she knows, not what she thinks she knows, and she is remarkably upfront in telling me what she’s working on when I see her.

The conversation was quite disturbing to me. She was telling me that her research group is looking into clotting issues involving the COVID-19 virus and the sequelae from infection. Although it was extremely technical and I confess that I am not up to the task of understanding the details, there is no question that she intimated that we are going to see the effects of this virus upon the people who contracted the disease for many Many years. Apparently, There may be a delayed response of the clotting system such that thromboses May manifest themselves years later causing stroke, coronary artery blockage, and pulmonary issues. She relayed it to me a whole bunch of scenarios which they have come upon in their technical research at the cellular level which are extremely disturbing.

In addition, she noted that the extent to which the person suffered with the disease acutely is not necessarily related to the extent of the chronic syndrome which may persist. Thus, if someone is only slightly affected, (as I believe I was early on), he or she may still have the severe responses later. Of course, one cannot predict the faith of an individual but from an epidemiological standpoint this is not very good news.

Well, At least the former guy wasn’t inaugurated again yesterday. There’s some good news.

[uponit7771]

1. Hmmm, here's hoping scientist can fix long hauler issues

[Tommymac]

2. OK. Does this mean that the J&J vaccine will NOT prevent these after affects?

Even though, I believe, that they say it will prevent severe case or death 100%?

Maybe you could ask her.

Thanks - this is all so confusing to layman - I don't know which real science to believe - and that is the fault of the MSM in my opionion. They are VERY unclear.

Maybe Rachel could take this topic up next week - she is so good at explaining things in plain language and concepts.

[Bonn1997]

3. And at least 100 million Americans have likely had Covid

Here is one estimate:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/02/06/964527835/why-the-pandemic-is-10-times-worse-than-you-think

[Hugin]

4. I could definitely see it exacerbating various chronic conditions...

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Arteriosclerosis, especially. As, what happens is plaques and cholesterol collect in damaged areas of blood vessels causing blockages and breaking loose to form clots of their own. If the virus's action causes more damage to the blood vessels it means that much more area for these to form.

I remember saying sometime last summer... It seems like several lifetimes ago. Even the asymptomatic cases could be causing damage and detecting it would require far more detailed and long term testing. Simply because a pathogen doesn't activate the immune system doesn't mean it's not doing something. The fact there was no previous immunity in humans to the COVID virus makes this especially true.

Sadly, your patient is probably correct and I'm super happy someone is researching the matter.

[Mike 03]

9. That is the kind of scenario that is so concerning:

What happens to all those blood clots in cases of coagulopathy down the road? Doctors were describing not one or two clots but widespread coagulopathy throughout the entire circulatory system, with many saying it was unlike anything they've ever seen before.

[GusBob]

5. Im sorry, but not to be a pill

Your first paragraph and second paragraph are completely contradictory

things that happen years from now are completely hypothetical

no scientist can predict the future, unless its from that movie with Michael J Fox

[WA-03 Democrat]

7. Agree

No Deloreans just possibilities not backed by data. Not enough time to study lingering or long term clap back effects yet. I think there will be but it’s not a fact.

[PCIntern]

8. No. You're wrong. With all due respect.

They have seen this clinically and they understand the mechanism. The future is as predictable as seeing the WTC go down and know that you’ll have abounding pulmonary pathology due to the dust cloud.

[XanaDUer2]

6. Scary nt

[lagomorph777]

10. Eesh. This could drag down our society for a generation or more.