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ItsjustMe

(11,230 posts)
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 01:30 PM Mar 2021

'Burn the Beatles!': Remember When John Lennon Said The Beatles Were More Popular Than Jesus?

https://rare.us/rare-news/history/burning-beatles-records/

Christianity will go. It will vanish and shrink. I needn’t argue about that; I’m right and I’ll be proved right. We’re more popular than Jesus now; I don’t know which will go first—rock ‘n’ roll or Christianity. Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. It’s them twisting it that ruins it for me.


Playboy Interview with The Beatles: February 1965 issue

http://www.beatlesinterviews.org/dbbtspb.int2.html


PLAYBOY: "You guys seem to be pretty irreverent characters. Are any of you churchgoers?"

JOHN: "No."

GEORGE: "No."

PAUL: "Not particularly. But we're not antireligious. We probably seem antireligious because of the fact that none of us believe in God."

JOHN: "If you say you don't believe in God, everybody assumes you're antireligious, and you probably think that's what we mean by that. We're not quite sure 'what' we are, but I know that we're more agnostic than atheistic."

PLAYBOY: "Are you speaking for the group, or just for yourself."

JOHN: "For the group."

GEORGE: "John's our official religious spokesman."

PAUL: "We all feel roughly the same. We're all agnostics."

JOHN: "Most people are, anyway."

RINGO: "It's better to admit it than to be a hypocrite."

JOHN: "The only thing we've got against religion is the hypocritical side of it, which I can't stand. Like the clergy is always moaning about people being poor, while they themselves are all going around with millions of quid worth of robes on. That's the stuff I can't stand."

PAUL: "A new bronze door stuck on the Vatican."

RINGO: "Must have cost a mighty penny."

PAUL: "But believe it or not, we're not anti-Christ."

RINGO: "Just anti-Pope and anti-christian."

PAUL: "But you know, in America..."

GEORGE: "They were more shocked by us saying we were agnostics."

JOHN: "Then they went potty; they couldn't take it. Same as in Australia, where they couldn't stand us not liking sports."

PAUL: "In America, they're fanatical about God. I know somebody over there who said he was an atheist. The papers nearly refused to print it because it was such shocking news that somebody could actually be an atheist... yeah... and admit it."

RINGO: "He speaks for all of us."
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'Burn the Beatles!': Remember When John Lennon Said The Beatles Were More Popular Than Jesus? (Original Post) ItsjustMe Mar 2021 OP
Yup. 12-year-old Catholic schoolgirl me was devastated! 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2021 #1
Then, a few years later, came "Imagine." lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #2
I have a framed pic on my wall here TxGuitar Mar 2021 #12
Raised Catholic Johnny2X2X Mar 2021 #3
Religion reinforces the willingness to accept nonsense, which is often exploited for other purposes. Towlie Mar 2021 #4
The Beatles were Humanists. no_hypocrisy Mar 2021 #5
The (in)famous quote in question musette_sf Mar 2021 #6
My favorite religious song is "Strawberry Fields." dchill Mar 2021 #7
yep...I was in 4th or 5th grade... dhill926 Mar 2021 #8
A Dallas album burning protest was organized by the local KKK Bongo Prophet Mar 2021 #9
I was 7 yo Ferryboat Mar 2021 #10
I remember that. A Catholic priest... Grins Mar 2021 #11
I think I was 13. I turned into an Atheist when I was 12 msfiddlestix Mar 2021 #13
With his comment he wasn't bragging--he was making a social commentary. panader0 Mar 2021 #14

50 Shades Of Blue

(9,975 posts)
1. Yup. 12-year-old Catholic schoolgirl me was devastated!
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 01:35 PM
Mar 2021

But I kept right on buying Beatles records, which I still listen to, and now I'm a heathen.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
2. Then, a few years later, came "Imagine."
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 01:41 PM
Mar 2021

I was an atheist by the age of five, but even when "Imagine" came out (I was middle-school age), I didn't quite realize he was speaking to me. Now I love that song.

TxGuitar

(4,190 posts)
12. I have a framed pic on my wall here
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 04:24 PM
Mar 2021

in my home office/music room that's white at the bottom and fades up to a blue sky with a couple of clouds and at the bottom it says "Above us only sky". That song is almost the atheist national anthem



Forgive the poor pic, my iPhone is ancient and doesn't take great pics.

Johnny2X2X

(19,038 posts)
3. Raised Catholic
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 01:45 PM
Mar 2021

I remember seeing a talk show with atheists on and couldn't believe it, and they portrayed them and attacked them as evil.

Been an atheist since I was a teenager now. It's amazing he hate and intolerance towards atheists in America.

Towlie

(5,324 posts)
4. Religion reinforces the willingness to accept nonsense, which is often exploited for other purposes.
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 01:53 PM
Mar 2021

 
?

musette_sf

(10,200 posts)
6. The (in)famous quote in question
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 02:07 PM
Mar 2021

was from an interview of Lennon by Maureen Cleave of the Evening Standard. The interview was republished in the American teen magazine Datebook around the time of the summer 1966 tour. I was an avid Datebook reader, and maybe it was because I was a relatively sophisticated New York City teen, but I didn't find anything objectionable in the interview. I'd already started questioning religious beliefs when I was in single-digit years, so no shock to me. The shock for me was seeing how people in the Bible Belt reacted to what seemed perfectly logical to me.

Interview here:
https://www.beatlesbible.com/1966/03/04/how-does-a-beatle-live-by-maureen-cleave/

dhill926

(16,337 posts)
8. yep...I was in 4th or 5th grade...
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 02:33 PM
Mar 2021

people went freaking nuts, calling for boycotts, etc. I wasn't bothered in the least...

Bongo Prophet

(2,643 posts)
9. A Dallas album burning protest was organized by the local KKK
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 03:49 PM
Mar 2021

You know, just one of their outreaches.
The local news station interviewed the Klan spokesman.

I missed this as a 9 yr old, but saw the interview clip some time in the 90s.


One good thing about that, personally: About 5 yrs after that, my very churchy cousins gave me their copies of several Beatles albums, which was very nice, and I got to catch up on deep cuts I'd not heard before.

They are still churchy to the max, and are very nice people in many ways, but still confused by my apostasy after all these years.

Ferryboat

(922 posts)
10. I was 7 yo
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 04:10 PM
Mar 2021

When we moved from Seattle to Hastings MN.

Small town small minds. Family was invited to a bonfire to burn Beatle records.

Forgotten all about it.

Grins

(7,212 posts)
11. I remember that. A Catholic priest...
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 04:14 PM
Mar 2021

...and friend of the family said - in Church! - “They’re right.”

Not offended at all. Surprised me at the time.

msfiddlestix

(7,278 posts)
13. I think I was 13. I turned into an Atheist when I was 12
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 04:36 PM
Mar 2021

With a Southern Baptist church right across the street where we lived in the countryside. we could hear preacher Whitehead spewing fire and brimstone in our living room. He was a source of great comic relief for me, though he didn't know it.

On some Sunday's I tried making a go of it, be a good Christian and go to church. I would sit in the way back and do my best to suppress belly laughs as his fury driven sermons turned his face deep scarlet red and his veins could be seen bulging from his temples, and spittle spraying along the center aisle. I would lose it, and start laughing uncontrollably. Every single Sunday.

I did this until one awful day my best friend drowned in the summer when we were twelve.

That was it for me. I knew right then and there God did not exist and my friend's death was evidence for m e. I knew then it was all some bizarre fairy tale and preachers made a lot of money from selling their fairytales to the "believers". Then Kennedy got assassinated. More evidence.

Then the Beatles hit the scene.

It was all UP HILL from then on. I gave a shit less about the Southern Bible Thumping attitude, boycotting the Beatles concerts or going on a hate fest smashing their records. They were all ignorant morons and neanderthals to me.

And they still are.





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