One thing I haven't heard about Cuomo . He's an older

[leftyladyfrommo]

Italian man. That culture just tends to be effusive. They do a lot of hugging and kissing.

Not an excuse but something to consider.

[Beakybird]

1. Nah. Democrats must set standards. We know Republicans have none.

[CentralMass]

2. I don't know. I'm a 60 year old guy.. I can sppt an asshole when I see one

So I guess it is a matter of opinion.

[leftyladyfrommo]

3. I don't think he's an asshole.

I know some assholes and he is way down the line.

I liked him because he wasn't afraid to take Trump and his minions on. Can't say that about very many people.

I am just getting tired of seeing men destroyed.

I am 72 and believe me I have seen some awful behavior while I worked in banking. We got good at just knocking those guys flat. We just didn't put up with it.

This stuff just seems like a tempest in a teapot to me.

[CentralMass]

5. I think that he has an abrasiveness and bullying attitude in his politics.

[Rustyeye77]

4. That's possible ..or...

He’s just a horny guy.

He screwed up.

[leftyladyfrommo]

6. Have you never messed up? Or had too much to

Drink and embarrassed yourself?

That doesn't make someone an awful person.

[Rustyeye77]

8. Of course I have.

Where I used to work I told a light sexy joke.No dirty words .

You would have thought I committed 1st degree murder.
The woman claimed she was so upset and hurt and and filed a complaint with HR AND I understand she started to cry.

It was a nightmare.

But then I found out she did that to multiple men and even one woman !

She was building up a file so if she was let go she would have a lawsuit.

One day she disappeared ..I don’t know if she was fired or quit.

[MenloParque]

7. NOPE

That shit don’t fly. My father is an older Italian man from Bed Stuy. He has always had respect for women. Sleazy is sleazy. We cannot make shitty excuses if the investigation reveals that he is a sleazeball. I do hope that the accusations will prove false! But leave that shitty excuses for the other side.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

9. If he's "older," he's had plenty of time to learn that some things aren't appropriate in other

cultures.

[Jeebo]

10. Weren't they saying things like this about Biden?

A year, perhaps a year and a half ago. There was a Saturday Night Live skit about it too, as I recall. But it all blew over almost as soon as it began. I think Biden is just a glad-handing, effusive, touchy-feely kind of guy. I frankly don't have a problem with that. Maybe Cuomo is that kind of guy and some women just were making a mountain out of a molehill. Maybe they were reading an unwelcome sexual component into it that wasn't really there. In any event, Cuomo certainly knows now that he needs to be more reserved about that kind of behavior. And let's give him the benefit of the doubt. I've always been a guy who is inclined to give others the benefit of the doubt. Shucks, I've even done that for Republicons, but in recent years, Republicons have gotten so incredibly and universally NASTY that I'm not so inclined for them any more.

-- Ron

[karynnj]

11. He actually was likely alluding to that when he spoke of his - and his father's - customary

way of greeting people. In ANY culture, even those where kissing (air or real) is normal, there is a pause sufficient that either could pull away almost inconspicuously.

Not to mention, he DID ask the third woman if he could kiss her -- after he put a hand on her exposed back and touched her face. She removed his hand .. and I should imagine the look on her face would easily have signaled LEAVE ME ALONE.

It also is not acceptable for a boss to ask the questions he did. Both women were not just far younger, but far less powerful.

[Voltaire2]

12. vile is as vile does

Also it is sort of bogus to claim that italians just can't help being shitheads.

[leftyladyfrommo]

13. I don't think being effusive is being a shithead. nt

[Voltaire2]

16. the three women who have come forward did not describe an 'effusive' person

they described a shithead. We all know guys like this.

[leftyladyfrommo]

14. I don't think being effusive is being a shithead. nt

This is just how I feel about it. If you are such a wimp that you can't handle a situation like that then you better get out of politics because it can get a whole lot worse and you have to be able to deal with it.

Yiu will be dealing with psychopaths. sociopaths , narcissists. You have to be able to handle yourself. Same was true in banking. Bunch of greed driven Republicans. Those people were awful. And not just the men.

[Deminpenn]

15. In some Italian families, hugging, touching, kissing

is just a way of life. Sort of like how one has to "manga" or the host/hostess is insulted.

[MichMan]

17. Situation kind of reminds me of Avenatti in a way

Not that they are alike, but the reactions they received.

How people just loved how he could stand toe to toe with Trump and trade blows. How people were touting him as presidential material. Saw the same thing with Michael Avenatti as the reaction to Andrew Coumo.

[Pongo]

18. Cuomo is not an 'Italian man.' As far as I know he's an American born in this country and raised

here too. Amazing the excuses I see being made for him. If someone got that hands with me, they’d soon see how I felt about it.

[Hekate]

19. Great LTTE in the LA Times from an Italian American feminist of his generation...

I’m having my usual problem trying to copy/paste from the LA Times, but at least the link is to the page. Her name is Reparata Mazzola.

Bottom line: he’s Italian, tell him off if you don’t like it, what he’s doing is not criminal (she quotes the law), and the media should stop acting like tabloids.

https://enewspaper.latimes.com/infinity/latimes/default.aspx?edid=1fe069ec-3f37-412d-bd4f-3e30dbbf5bc3

[pnwmom]

21. What he was accused by his staffers of was sexual harassment in the workplace,

and that's illegal.

He doesn't get a pass because he's Italian.

[pnwmom]

20. No excuse. He's older but he's not stupid. And anyone who's lived

through the last 40 years knows that sexual harassment in the workplace is illegal.

Anita Hill should have put him on warning.

[Ohio Joe]

22. Speaking as an older Italian man...

What you say is to some extent true, we do a lot of hugging and (cheek) kissing... To friends and family. Not employees. We do have some control over ourselves.

[Raine]

23. He's older but not that old, he came of age during the women's movement

in the late 60s. There's no excuse in not knowing what he's been doing and saying isn't appropriate, did he learn nothing from his mother or sisters about how to behave with women.

[JanMichael]

24. You would think as a single Gov he would know how to find mates outside of the office.

When you are the Gov of a major state, in a long tenured political family, remember daddy Mario was a bigshot too, he should know better. Plus he has been married before, twice. It's not like he is an Incel.

He was married to a Kennedy (RFK's kid) and also to a cake lady.

Isn't there a celebrity only fuck website?