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targetpractice

(4,919 posts)
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 05:25 PM Mar 2021

Neanderthals are not an ethnicity...

... They are an extinct sub-species of humans. We also share a lot DNA with great apes, but 23andMe doesn't include that in their reports. I don't understand why Republicans are embracing Neanderthals as part of their heritage. We all share DNA with our ancestors. I still share hemoglobin DNA from 800 million year old invertebrates.

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Neanderthals are not an ethnicity... (Original Post) targetpractice Mar 2021 OP
They don't need a decent minimum wage or covid relief either soothsayer Mar 2021 #1
23andMe does include Neanderthal DNA percentage and some variants. Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #2
I do as well PatSeg Mar 2021 #6
Yes. My brother and I have had extensive DNA testing, and we are very ancient Irish tribal groups. Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #9
Was there any mention of Doggerland? PatSeg Mar 2021 #11
I show as 99% Irish. And 65% more Neanderthal than others. Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #14
I got a lot of Irish from both my parents PatSeg Mar 2021 #18
The DNA sites have become much more sophisticated in the last ten years. More norm groups Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #19
I guess in this case, it really is in our DNA PatSeg Mar 2021 #20
Yes same here. Always been the case. Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #22
I never miss a Masterpiece Theater PatSeg Mar 2021 #23
My ancestors have been in Ireland for 10,000 years so yes, they probably crossed paths with yours Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #24
Alan Alda says he has 2%. If anyone is truly evolved, it is Alda, so I hardly think that is a worry. hlthe2b Mar 2021 #10
If the Neanderthals were still alive, Republicans would be vicious and cruel Tanuki Mar 2021 #3
There is the dictionary definition of Neanderthals and there is an informal definition. Chainfire Mar 2021 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chainfire Mar 2021 #5
I don't know what this is all about, but LeftInTX Mar 2021 #7
They just admitted evolution is real SoonerPride Mar 2021 #8
... Nevilledog Mar 2021 #15
Hahahahaha SoonerPride Mar 2021 #16
At least they are admitting evolution is real. applegrove Mar 2021 #12
Who is stupid enough to say Neanderthal's are a Race? Oh. Wait. I think I know now. msfiddlestix Mar 2021 #13
Understanding this fact is way above the average GOP cognitve ability. pennylane100 Mar 2021 #17
Neanderthals were white. dawg Mar 2021 #21

Irish_Dem

(46,562 posts)
2. 23andMe does include Neanderthal DNA percentage and some variants.
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 05:39 PM
Mar 2021

I have a high percentage of Neanderthal DNA.

Irish_Dem

(46,562 posts)
9. Yes. My brother and I have had extensive DNA testing, and we are very ancient Irish tribal groups.
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 05:53 PM
Mar 2021

Pre-Celtic, Pre-Druid.
The first ancient Irish group of Ireland.
Many thousands of years ago.
So my guess is that is why we have a higher than normal Neanderthal DNA.

PatSeg

(47,282 posts)
11. Was there any mention of Doggerland?
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 06:08 PM
Mar 2021

My results show 93% Irish and British. I remember a mention of Doggerland awhile back, but can't find it now. It was through 23 and me. I have more Neanderthal than 95% of other participants. Is that about the same as yours?

Irish_Dem

(46,562 posts)
14. I show as 99% Irish. And 65% more Neanderthal than others.
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 06:14 PM
Mar 2021

The 99% Irish is unusual since I am supposed to be half Irish, Irish grandparents.
But DNA is randomly assigned and I just got a whole lot of Irish DNA from my Irish father.

PatSeg

(47,282 posts)
18. I got a lot of Irish from both my parents
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 06:27 PM
Mar 2021

It wasn't until recent years that I was able to trace my father's family and I found a lot of Irish on his family tree.

The 23 and Me reports are far more detailed than they used to be. They even show the regions in England and Ireland where my more recent ancestors were from. I hadn't checked that in awhile. It's fascinating as there are often new things to discover.

I guess it is no wonder that I am so drawn to British history. I binge-watched four or five documentaries last week.

Irish_Dem

(46,562 posts)
19. The DNA sites have become much more sophisticated in the last ten years. More norm groups
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 06:36 PM
Mar 2021

now because so many people are DNA testing.

My Irish grandparents were born in County Mayo, and the male line has been in that area according to the DNA findings for thousands of years. My brother has done extensive YDNA testing that took the paternal line back 10,000 years to County Mayo. Only a small percentage of Irish males have this particular line, it is rare.

Most of the current Irish came to Ireland much later.

I love anything British/Irish in terms of TV, movies and books.

PatSeg

(47,282 posts)
20. I guess in this case, it really is in our DNA
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 06:54 PM
Mar 2021

I definitely am an Anglophile. I am always looking for a new British TV show to binge-watch. When there is none, I'll rewatch an older one. Movies and literature as well.

Irish_Dem

(46,562 posts)
22. Yes same here. Always been the case.
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 06:57 PM
Mar 2021

Masterpiece Theater has always been one of my favorite shows.
I mainly read British mysteries, same with TV.

I have read Pride and Prejudice more times than I can count.

Yes it really is in our DNA.

PatSeg

(47,282 posts)
23. I never miss a Masterpiece Theater
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 07:05 PM
Mar 2021

and no one does mysteries better than the British.

The odds are our ancestors have crossed paths, probably more than once.

And I love Stout or most any kind of British or Irish beer. Don't drink it as much as I used to though, as it doesn't agree with me too much these days.

Irish_Dem

(46,562 posts)
24. My ancestors have been in Ireland for 10,000 years so yes, they probably crossed paths with yours
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 07:09 PM
Mar 2021

at some point!

Yes the Brits are the best mystery writers.

I love beer, but I don't drink, so I get non alcoholic beer.
It is good for the bones they say!

hlthe2b

(102,138 posts)
10. Alan Alda says he has 2%. If anyone is truly evolved, it is Alda, so I hardly think that is a worry.
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 05:55 PM
Mar 2021

In fact, there is some evidence that those with some shared genes with Neanderthals may well have been conferred COVID-19 resistance.

I did ancestry.com, but don't think they are testing or at least reporting out Neanderthal comparison findings.

Tanuki

(14,914 posts)
3. If the Neanderthals were still alive, Republicans would be vicious and cruel
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 05:44 PM
Mar 2021

toward them, would hate them, and discriminate against them in any way possible. I shudder to think of how they would treat them.

Chainfire

(17,474 posts)
4. There is the dictionary definition of Neanderthals and there is an informal definition.
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 05:45 PM
Mar 2021

It is the way of the English language. (It may be that way in other languages as well, but I only speak English, so I can't be sure)

If Republicans want to self identify as Neanderthals, I have no problem with that. Personally, I commonly refer to Republicans as "knuckle draggers" which is less scientific, and it is one of the most polite terms I use to define them. I would be more accurate to refer to them as sloths, or leaches, but some terms just give better imagery than others. Tell me that you can't visualize Mitch McConnell as stooped over, shuffling along, with a stupid look, with his knuckles dragging the dirt, being followed by his whole Republican cult.

Search our heritage back far enough and you will find a single celled, accidental mixture of chemicals that through some accident figured out how to replicate. put enough stuff in a jar and shake it long enough and odd things can emerge. I am certainly neither proud of nor ashamed of my previous bipedal or quadruped ancestors.

It is like Popeye said, "I yam what I yam, and that's all that I yam."

Response to targetpractice (Original post)

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
8. They just admitted evolution is real
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 05:51 PM
Mar 2021

And completely abandoned their “god snapped everything into existence” myth.

It was literally that easy.

msfiddlestix

(7,271 posts)
13. Who is stupid enough to say Neanderthal's are a Race? Oh. Wait. I think I know now.
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 06:11 PM
Mar 2021

Gotta be Neanderthal's! amirite?

pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
17. Understanding this fact is way above the average GOP cognitve ability.
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 06:21 PM
Mar 2021

Give them enough time to mature to the actual neanderthal brain functioning level first.

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