Trump is 'likely going to lose' new insurrection lawsuit: legal experts

[LetMyPeopleVote]

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[Disaffected]

1. Problem here may be,

did trump explicitly tell his supporters to do any of that??

He, in his mob boss style of speaking, certainly egged the mob on to march on the capitol but did he explicitly "instruct" them to commit the illegal acts of which many of them are accused?

At least I expect his legal team will take that approach...

[babylonsister]

3. I think phone calls from the wh to

the proud boys might influence opinions.

[Disaffected]

13. Yes, that would make a v big difference,

if it can be shown that trump himself made such calls. Otherwise, he'll just claim the calls were made without his approval or knowledge.

[magicarpet]

4. I think Rep. Eric Swalwell's intent here maybe to get depositions from all these assholes.

Get them to perjure themselves/each other then the fireworks begin.

[2naSalit]

14. +1

[Disaffected]

15. Yes,

that may well be the primary intent. It will make for some good viewing for sure.

[madville]

8. Seems pretty pointless, they should let him run again in 2024

Will lose again

[doc03]

10. I wouldn't be so sure he will lose if he runs in 2024 nt

[moonscape]

11. I shudder at the risk. n/t

[uponit7771]

18. +1, not after the Solar Winds hack Putin's Whore allowed to happen

[Cosmocat]

20. YEP - it would be a coin flip

like the first two elections.

[littlemissmartypants]

9. And we all know what a cracker jack team of lawyers that is...

I suspect he calls them "very fine people"...

I watched the video.

❤ miss pants

[magicarpet]

2. Go get 'em,...

I'll take my trDump well done with three brand new full bottles of ketchup,... pop the lids at the table please.

Hold the five trucks full of fries and the eleven buckets of KFC.

[Cha]

5. Rt TY!

[jorgevlorgan]

6. Maybe undo all the profits he made while in the WH?

....and then some?

[FakeNoose]

7. We've heard call tapes of Rudy Giuliani with regards to the insurrection

... and I have no doubts that he was speaking on behalf of Chump (his client).
There must be plenty more out there.

[Ponietz]

12. Join us personally as Plaintiffs since we were all harmed

Make it a class action and take every last dime he has.

[Blue Owl]

16. Suck it Donny you fat piece of shit

[smirkymonkey]

21. Blue Owl, you always crack me up!

I like your style.

[Initech]

17. I love watching him lose over and over again!

[scarytomcat]

19. Can others sue also?

Can we all sue him?

[BobTheSubgenius]

22. This isn't a "beyond a reasonable doubt" kind of case, is it?

I'd call this a tort, although there might be a more precise legal term for it. If that's true, it would just take a "preponderance of evidence" to find against Il Douche. Someone adjudicating this case would just have to think "Yes, he's probably guilty," and not "X is a reasonable doubt here."

Much lower threshold to reach.

[ProfessorGAC]

24. That Makes Sense To Me

I've testified in a half-dozen civil suits as an expert witness. Three each for plaintiff & defense.
It was made abundantly clear to me during discovery, depositions & trial prep that the standard is nothing like a criminal trial.
A couple times I was in the courtroom when the judge made sure the jury knew that very well.
Then I found this:

When 12 jurors deliberate in a civil trial, 10 jurors are needed to return a verdict. In a criminal case the verdict must be unanimous.

Although I'm fairly sure that here in Illinois a civil jury can be as little as 6 people. Not sure about federal, but I have a recollection that in a couple of those lawsuits in fed court, there were fewer than 12. But, I might be remembering that wrong.

[samplegirl]

23. Get the fat bastard!