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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI am suddenly horrified
thinking about what would have happened if we had not retaken the senate. This massive recovery bill which is going to lift many people out of poverty, end COVID , extend UI benefits, provide financial stimulus, help cities and states, shore up the ACA and much more would never have seen the light of day. Republicans like Ron Johnson would still be pushing bogus investigations and peddling disinformation via their commîtees, none of Joe Biden's nominees would have been appointed, etc.. etc..
We really dodged a bullet on that and should thank Georgians and especially african american Georgians for saving us.
greyl
(23,024 posts)AllTooEasy
(1,261 posts)...not that we expect yall to ever show us some fucking gratitude anytime this galactic year, while Republicans wipe away our voting rights.
flying rabbit
(4,947 posts)Thanks.
CaliforniaPeggy
(156,338 posts)A great many people saw what we saw, and said Hell no! Thank goodness.
greyl
(23,024 posts)
RockRaven
(18,971 posts)The alternative to Manchin seems to be a Repuke.
A Repuke who wins a GrOPer primary in West Fucking Virginia. That's no Murkowski or Romney.... even as worthless as they are.
Yeah, I'm not happy about a lot of what Manchin does, but I'm very very happy that Schumer is Senate Majority Leader instead of Moscow Cocaine Mitch McTurtle. It's a tradeoff I'm completely at peace with.
brewens
(15,359 posts)If we hadn't taken those seats in Georgia, no one would be talking about Manchin.
electric_blue68
(26,477 posts)JI7
(93,381 posts)Senate seats . If his vote didn't make a difference in outcome he probably wouldn't make much noise about it and just go along .
Thekaspervote
(35,816 posts)Thing is weve GOT to hold on to the house
KEEP THE HOUSE 22!! Pass it on
quakerboy
(14,790 posts)The problem is that we need to keep bringing home the metaphorical bacon for the voters.. and making it 100% blatently obviously out front clear exactly who is blocking things when its not possible.
soldierant
(9,304 posts)again.
I'm old enough to remember when Ben Nighthorse Campbell did it.
So when people ask why we are being held hostage by Manchin ... remember that.
And of course the same goes for Sinema.
Quixote1818
(31,148 posts)drray23
(8,656 posts)This afternoon I heard on one of the msnbc shows that one of the things that President Biden realized they did not do well enough after the passage of the ACA was to toot their horns and take credit to make the american people realize the magnitude of it.
It is reported that they are not going to be making that mistake twice. Pres Biden is scheduled for the next two days to go around talk about it, visiting various places.
SunSeeker
(57,932 posts)Larissa
(793 posts)The state Republicans across America are busy crafting legislation aimed at monkey-wrenching the ability of Americans to vote. Republican "leadership" in Washington has cost Americans dearly. We cannot go back to that.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)that trump was hoping to declare martial law, and declare himself president for life
Thekaspervote
(35,816 posts)JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)trump days before, in my view, trump considered it a very real possibility, and if it succeeded it would have eliminated the Democratic leadership, and the first step to a junta.
Is this this a wild conspiracy theory? Perhaps, but reports of contacts between between a proud boy member and a trump associate should be a real concern, if not a smoking gun
https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-finds-contact-between-proud-150858120.html
https://www.businessinsider.com/michael-flynn-trump-military-martial-law-overturn-election-2020-12
Irish_Dem
(80,449 posts)JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)Irish_Dem
(80,449 posts)soldierant
(9,304 posts)If he had declared himself President for life and there was not enough opposition in Congress to defeat it, it would have happened.
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uponit7771
(93,505 posts)Wounded Bear
(64,020 posts)Best to look forward with hope now.
Sneederbunk
(17,357 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)wally baby
(18 posts)knowing 5 family members voting Warnock/Ossof it was shocking. But, you're welcome. We all won!!
dragonlady
(3,577 posts)Help keep us advised about what is happening in Georgia, a very important state now.
peggysue2
(12,449 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(24,637 posts)I like to think we were part of a tsunami of out-of-state grassroots money flowing to Georgia.
My little bit couldn't matter much by itself, but it felt very good when the results came in.
Maybe if I bet some money on the Lions ....
Phentex
(16,688 posts)and help from people around the country.
Blue Owl
(58,631 posts)
bdamomma
(69,356 posts)we must fight against voter suppression. Everyone has the right to VOTE.
drray23
(8,656 posts)There is hope there that Manchin might come around regarding the fillibuster. He said today he would be open to change the rules to make it harder to use. Its a move from his earlier stance of never means never.
Hopefully, we can use the nuclear option to even dispense with the fillibuster for civil right and voting rights legislation. That option is currently being considered by the leadership.
has a lot of power, if he pushed to hard he could flip, don't ruffle his feathers.
drray23
(8,656 posts)He has been a dem all his life. He enjoys his position, playing both sides of the aisle. Besides, I trust Biden and Schumer to know what to do and how far. I think, above all he loves to look like he is negotiating and holds power over the final product. If we can keep him in this "negotiating" mood, then we are good.
Evolve Dammit
(21,631 posts)SOteric
(22,564 posts)She and those doing similar work on behalf of the entirety of left-thinking people of every ilk are the single most important weapon in our arsenal. Saving democracy by employing democracy. Who'd have thunk?
yardwork
(69,115 posts)The party with the majority controls all the committees. Many people don't understand this. All the committees are chaired by the majority party, and that party also holds the majority in each committee.
Under the Republicans, bills for the good of the people never even got a hearing, much less a vote.
It's about so much more than the votes. It's essential that Democrats retain control of both the House and Senate.
Pobeka
(5,000 posts)HR1!!!
Nothing else matters.
All political energy needs to focus on that or we may have won a battle, but lost the war. (Thank God we won in 2021).
bucolic_frolic
(54,545 posts)2018, and Georgia 2020. That's how close we came, and we're still not out of the woods by any measure.
superpatriotman
(6,824 posts)And its up to Democrats to build a big enough voter base to keep it together.
The Christo-fascists have abdicated their ability to effectively govern.
Aussie105
(7,732 posts)Just look at Brazil and Jair Messias Bolsonaro's lack of caring.
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/brazil-battling-worlds-worst-coronavirus-outbreak-as-mutant-strain-spreads/news-story/8aa1bd5699aa635ce6a71c3db115e834
Then scale that up a bit to US population.
Instead of Bolsonaro talking to the people saying 'I don't really care, but stop complaining, peasants!' we would have Trump doing that inhuman act.
BobTheSubgenius
(12,182 posts)At the moment, I'd say the left has some big, strong guys trying to hold the door closed against the ravening horde. When you come to a place where you think you can finally breathe easy, and they are on the run, it's only a temporary respite.
To paraphrase Twain "Any reports of their demise will have been greatly exaggerated."
mountain grammy
(28,823 posts)who voted to return my country to sanity.
