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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBiden proposes a Quad summit; this is why
The news site Axios reported on Friday that US President Joe Biden plans to meet with his counterparts in the so-called Quad Japan, Australia and India this month. Bidens plan could transform the alignments in the Asia-Pacific region. Its impact on the India-China relationship will be profound.
Biden is in a hurry and would have a Quad summit even before he meets with the United States closest allies in Europe. Presumably, this dramatic initiative has come as an afterthought.
The Quad did not even merit a reference in the first major foreign-policy speech delivered by Secretary of State Antony Blinken on March 3 or in the document titled Interim National Security Strategic Guidance released by the White House the same day.
The latter document referred to India the following way: We will deepen our partnership with India and work alongside New Zealand, as well as Singapore, Vietnam, and other Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) member states, to advance shared objectives.
The first news of the White House initiative came through a media leak by people familiar with the matter. Its optics matters, as anything that smacks of a tough approach to China appeals to US domestic opinion.
https://asiatimes.com/2021/03/biden-proposes-a-quad-summit-this-is-why/
Botany
(70,447 posts)n/t
speak easy
(9,176 posts)Irish_Dem
(46,492 posts)elevator
(415 posts)Nothing wrong with tough, smart policy, but no need to make them feel defensive and excluded, as we did Russia by expanding NATO.
Irish_Dem
(46,492 posts)The US wants to stand up to China on the territorial disputes, but also needs to make nice with them.
The Quad is the Asian version of NATO, so yes it is an aggressive move on the part of its members towards China.
China plays the very long game, and almost always gets what it wants in the long run.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)https://warontherocks.com/2020/11/turkeys-crisis-with-the-west-how-a-new-low-in-relations-risks-paralyzing-nato/
Irish_Dem
(46,492 posts)China and Turkey will be long term problems.
Hekate
(90,551 posts)I am not the only one who sees this. You might be interested in the discussion in this thread from Friday:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2706926
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)https://www.cfr.org/blog/japan-south-korea-relations-and-biden-factor
Adding South Korea would be a complication that might blow the whole thing up.
Wounded Bear
(58,598 posts)we need to work with these allies to contain China.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)India was not a participant in the TPP negotiations.
After Trump withdrew, the rest of the participants went on to conclude the CPTPP, which does not include India.
The negociants of the RCEP tried mightily to include India, but after a few years, India withdrew in 2019, allowing the remaining countries to conclude the deal.
The US won't join the RCEP because it includes China.
Both China and the US are possible members of CPTPP, but it's not clear whether the existing members are interested in renegotiating any terms of the existing agreement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_and_Progressive_Agreement_for_Trans-Pacific_Partnership
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_Comprehensive_Economic_Partnership
The "Quad" is likely only a military liaison arrangement. I don't see India negotiating away any aspect of its sovereignty.
The Henry Kissinger "Triangulation Strategy" works wonderfully well for India --
So, when Nixon and I considered that, Nixon called a cabinet meeting and said to the cabinet, Im going to try in effect to play them off against each other. That required positive relations with both of them. You cant do the triangulation unless you have meaningful operations with both of them.
So, the principle which we followed when I was Secretary of State and what I instructed my subordinates to do was to make sure that you place the United States closer to both China and Russia than they are to each other.
If you know nothing else, just do that. That way both of them had a greater incentive to deal with us than they had to deal with each other.
https://nixonseminar.com/2021/03/the-nixon-seminar-march-2-2021-transcript/
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,321 posts)Just invite India and Japan to join. We don't need to invent a new partnership organization.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,321 posts)Now I feel dum.